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I had plenty of sympathy for the Loins until their fans started acting like insufferable, front running tools like the Vikings.   When they beat GB the second time around they acted like they won the Super Bowl.

A little humility goes a long way.  

Packers are 10-4 and itโ€™s like ho hum, which I love because you should expect to be competitive and strive to be better.  Thatโ€™s where I give MLF some credit.  Not that MIM (Meathead in Michigan) isnโ€™t an effective leader, but his whole routine is way too overhyped and embraced.  

The fact of the matter is the Loins are trending in the wrong direction and if they want to blame it all on the injuries well go for it.  They havenโ€™t played very well in several weeks now.  I refuse to feel sorry for them and honestly I hope it implodes.  Karma is a beeotch.

@Tschmack posted:

I had plenty of sympathy for the Loins until their fans started acting like insufferable, front running tools like the Vikings.   When they beat GB the second time around they acted like they won the Super Bowl.

A little humility goes a long way.  

Packers are 10-4 and itโ€™s like ho hum, which I love because you should expect to be competitive and strive to be better.  Thatโ€™s where I give MLF some credit.  Not that MIM (Meathead in Michigan) isnโ€™t an effective leader, but his whole routine is way too overhyped and embraced.  

The fact of the matter is the Loins are trending in the wrong direction and if they want to blame it all on the injuries well go for it.  They havenโ€™t played very well in several weeks now.  I refuse to feel sorry for them and honestly I hope it implodes.  Karma is a beeotch.

Spot on with Lions fans.  I get it that beating the Packers is a big deal because we have been beating the Lions for a long time.  but that also that doesn't mean you can act like a douchebag spermhead fan

As you said give MLF some credit.  I don't think he gets anywhere near the credit he should be getting.  In his time in GB he had to deal with #12 and his ego, defensively challenged teams, and then had to get a team who's average age was by far the youngest in the NFL (and still is) playing well.  And he overcame all of these things and has this team playing better and thankfully still kind of on under the radar.

Campbell?  He is the exact opposite.  I do think he is a decent coach but he also has benefitted from a front office that finally got its crap together and put a good team on the field.  Anyhow, I know a few Lions fans and they say they embraced his style at first but now they are getting a bit pissed because they have waited so long to be good, and they feel like their coach is so damn reckless he is going to piss it away. And I have to agree with them.

So my thoughts on the NFC is that it is now down to 3 possibly teams.  Philly, MN, GB and TB.  This could be the type of year IMHO where a team like TB no one has thought of making the Super Bowl.   But, my money is on Philly.

And I will be honest I am getting nervous about how well the spermheads are playing.  I just hope they find a way to choke again this year.

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@The Heckler posted:

Spot on with Lions fans.  I get it that beating the Packers is a big deal because we have been beating the Lions for a long time.  but that also that doesn't mean you can act like a douchebag spermhead fan

As you said give MLF some credit.  I don't think he gets anywhere near the credit he should be getting.  In his time in GB he had to deal with #12 and his ego, defensively challenged teams, and then had to get a team who's average age was by far the youngest in the NFL (and still is) playing well.  And he overcame all of these things and has this team playing better and thankfully still kind of on under the radar.

Campbell?  He is the exact opposite.  I do think he is a decent coach but he also has benefitted from a front office that finally got its crap together and put a good team on the field.  Anyhow, I know a few Lions fans and they say they embraced his style at first but now they are getting a bit pissed because they have waited so long to be good, and they feel like their coach is so damn reckless he is going to piss it away. And I have to agree with them.

So my thoughts on the NFC is that it is now down to 3 possibly teams.  Philly, MN, GB and TB.  This could be the type of year IMHO where a team like TB no one has thought of making the Super Bowl.   But, my money is on Philly.

And I will be honest I am getting nervous about how well the spermheads are playing.  I just hope they find a way to choke again this year.

Philly should be the favorite, but the team is very dysfunctional in terms of many key relationships - head coach/QB, QB/WR1. Everything is fine until they face some adversity and then the finger pointing starts. Hurts and AJ Brown are fighting right now during a 12-2 year. What happens when they fall behind by 14 in a playoff game?

I hate to say it, but unless Sam Darnold turns into a pumpkin here (which could still happen), I think the Vikings could end up winning it. They put more pressure on the QB than any of the NFC teams. They may also have the best WR/TE/RB passing game group in football. If their OL holds up, they are going to be tough. They get to play Seattle without Geno Smith, the Packers who may have already clinched a playoff berth, and who will likely be locked into the 6th seed, and then the Lions. If they win 2 of those 3, they may win the division and get at least the 2 seed.

The Lions play the Bears next in a game which might as well be the Bears Super Bowl. The Lions have to win that game or things could get really tight for them.

Philly should be the favorite, but the team is very dysfunctional in terms of many key relationships - head coach/QB, QB/WR1. Everything is fine until they face some adversity and then the finger pointing starts. Hurts and AJ Brown are fighting right now during a 12-2 year. What happens when they fall behind by 14 in a playoff game?

I hate to say it, but unless Sam Darnold turns into a pumpkin here (which could still happen), I think the Vikings could end up winning it. They put more pressure on the QB than any of the NFC teams. They may also have the best WR/TE/RB passing game group in football. If their OL holds up, they are going to be tough. They get to play Seattle without Geno Smith, the Packers who may have already clinched a playoff berth, and who will likely be locked into the 6th seed, and then the Lions. If they win 2 of those 3, they may win the division and get at least the 2 seed.

The Lions play the Bears next in a game which might as well be the Bears Super Bowl. The Lions have to win that game or things could get really tight for them.

The word coming out is that Geno Smith will likely play against MN.

Philly should be the favorite, but the team is very dysfunctional in terms of many key relationships - head coach/QB, QB/WR1. Everything is fine until they face some adversity and then the finger pointing starts. Hurts and AJ Brown are fighting right now during a 12-2 year. What happens when they fall behind by 14 in a playoff game?

I hate to say it, but unless Sam Darnold turns into a pumpkin here (which could still happen), I think the Vikings could end up winning it. They put more pressure on the QB than any of the NFC teams. They may also have the best WR/TE/RB passing game group in football. If their OL holds up, they are going to be tough. They get to play Seattle without Geno Smith, the Packers who may have already clinched a playoff berth, and who will likely be locked into the 6th seed, and then the Lions. If they win 2 of those 3, they may win the division and get at least the 2 seed.

The Lions play the Bears next in a game which might as well be the Bears Super Bowl. The Lions have to win that game or things could get really tight for them.

I think the Philly schism deal may be a bit overblown.  But I fear you are spot on about Minny.

@DH13 posted:

What did you see from him and SEA sunday night to think they would beat MIN?

My opinion is more based on who MN has beat this year, and the fact that they have to go on the road into a hostile environment against a team playing for their playoff lives. Besides GB and maybe Houston, MN's most impressive performance was probably a loss to Detroit at home. These next three games will be telling for how good MN really is. If they win 2 out 3 I'll be more of a believer, but it also wouldn't shock me if they finish the season 12-5. Again, just my opinion based on who've they've beaten this year.

The Bucs and Rams are interesting teams.

The Bucs are probably going to win the NFC south IMHO without any problems and are playing much better recently.

After looking at their schedule they are an up and down team.  They beat both the Lions and Eagles way back in September but had a 4 game losing streak in the middle and are currently on a 4 game streak beating  NYG, Panthers, Raiders and beat the Chargers by 23. 

Honestly, I would like to avoid the Rams if possible.  I think they have all of their weapons back on offense and they have beaten MN, Buffalo and could be on a 6 game winning streak come playoff  time.

My opinion is more based on who MN has beat this year, and the fact that they have to go on the road into a hostile environment against a team playing for their playoff lives. Besides GB and maybe Houston, MN's most impressive performance was probably a loss to Detroit at home. These next three games will be telling for how good MN really is. If they win 2 out 3 I'll be more of a believer, but it also wouldn't shock me if they finish the season 12-5. Again, just my opinion based on who've they've beaten this year.

Queens have had like 6 cream puff games in a row. And that's not counting the Jets and Giants .

My opinion is more based on who MN has beat this year, and the fact that they have to go on the road into a hostile environment against a team playing for their playoff lives. Besides GB and maybe Houston, MN's most impressive performance was probably a loss to Detroit at home. These next three games will be telling for how good MN really is. If they win 2 out 3 I'll be more of a believer, but it also wouldn't shock me if they finish the season 12-5. Again, just my opinion based on who've they've beaten this year.

They got to play Green Bay on Jordan Love's first game back from injury. I don't think Love was anywhere near close to normal in terms of his mobility in the pocket until maybe the Dolphins game on Thanksgiving. If this upcoming Vikings game was in Lambeau, I think the Packers would be favored. The dome is probably worth 5-6 points given the need for a silent count and that stupid bullhorn.

@The Heckler posted:

The Bucs and Rams are interesting teams.

The Bucs are probably going to win the NFC south IMHO without any problems and are playing much better recently.

After looking at their schedule they are an up and down team.  They beat both the Lions and Eagles way back in September but had a 4 game losing streak in the middle and are currently on a 4 game streak beating  NYG, Panthers, Raiders and beat the Chargers by 23.

Honestly, I would like to avoid the Rams if possible.  I think they have all of their weapons back on offense and they have beaten MN, Buffalo and could be on a 6 game winning streak come playoff  time.

Yes. I would rather face Baker Mayfield (even with Mike Evans) in a playoff game rather than Matthew Stafford with Nacua and Cupp.

As it currently stands, I'd say the #3 seed will come from the NFCS.
TB has the same overall record as the Rams and Seahawks, but they are 2 games ahead in conference wins.
Common wins are considered in the tie breakers before conference record, but, since I tend to be lazy, I'll just go with the conference record unless a need to calculate the other is needed..

However, if Detoilet can't pull out of its' tailspin, or the Vikes falter as they are apt to do, the Packers could end up as the #2 seed with a division championship.
That would require a Chitcago victory over the Loins. And while they are suffering, they're not Bears bad. "Any given Sunday" would be the only hope...

Realistically, it's far more likely Green Bay will be the #6 seed, and that would mean a road game to Tampa. I can live with that.

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