The Big Ten is the best conference in the country. If the winner of the best conference doesn't get in there is something wrong.
Washington has beaten nobody.
No they haven't... and their "signature win" is over a Washington State team that has a loss to Eastern Washington on their resume. The only other ranked team they played is USC, and lost. But if they finish with one loss, they'll be more appealing than any of the "Wild Card" 2 loss teams.
Why?
I don't see Wisconsin if they win the game as a shoe in without help meaning a loss by Washington
FreeSafety posted:The Big Ten is the best conference in the country. If the winner of the best conference doesn't get in there is something wrong.
This sounds like it should be true. The problem is that the most obviously best teams are not playing in the Championship game. That does not mean that the winner (especially the Badgers) should not be included should they win, but by losing both of those games, they left the door open. It looks better on paper if the people in the playoff are all zero or one loss teams.
Michigan maybe should be the other two loss team if any in this scenario. I am not sure if the Badgers can beat them, but if they did, they certainly would have been in if that was the scenario that had played out.
Colorado wins on Friday nite and the Badgers win on Sat they are in
Pretty sure Washington beat Stanford and they are ranked 17 this week. Utah probably should be ranked and that's a quality win. Colorado is a top 10 team and if they beat them I think it's going to be hard for the committee to keep them out instead of a 2 loss UW team.
The Iowa win is looking better now (they are ranked this week) but LSU and Nebraska wins don't look nearly as good. The Michigan State win now is meaningless.
Beating Penn State would be their best win of the year and I think gives UW the 4 seed if Washington does lose. If both teams win I think UW has a 50/50 shot as they did not beat Ohio State or Michigan. Beat either team and we aren't even having this discussion.
Just knew the Ohio State OT loss may factor into this. Ugh. Hate O$U and that drama queen Urb
Whatever happens I am proud of this team
Wisconsin is in the drivers seat- they win they're in. No way Colorado jumps over them with a win over Washington.
Bucky will need Washington to lose, to get into the top 4. I would bet that Wisconsin is still ranked #6 on Tuesday night. Mich #5, and Washington #4
I think Ohio State is a lock, leaving two spots. Is it down to Clemson, Washington, and Wisconsin? What about Michigan? I think their two losses are too late in the season to give them any chance.
I do not think so. Washington plays in a down conference and has no signature wins. The Badgers beat LSU, who was the only team to compete with 'Bama. And while the MSU win is no longer a factor, beating Nebraska and Iowa on the road, and taking OSU to overtime and Michigan to the brink is better than anything Washington has done. To then complete it with a win over Penn State to be Conference champion in the toughest conference in football this year clinches it. There will be 2 B1G teams in it.
The real battle is Clemson and Washington- if Clemson stumbles that is the door Washington could sneak through.
I don't get this Wisconsin would lose to Michigan stuff. If Speight throws 2 int's and fumbles once like he just did...
The Badgers have to beat Penn State no matter what. I also think Washington has to beat Colorado for them to be safe. Same thing with Clemson but their path is easier than either Wisconsin or Washington.
Washington beating a top 10 Colorado team cancels out UW beating a top 10 Penn State team. That's where it could get interesting in the comparisons. Washington has one loss to a top 15 USC team. The Badgers have two losses to top 10 teams. The Badgers beat LSU and Iowa and Nebraska - all teams ranked in the 20s. Washington beat Stanford - a top 20 team- and both Utah and WSU which are comparable to the Iowa and Nebraska wins.
So the way I see it - it's how the committee values 1 loss (versus 2 losses) and overall strength of schedule. I also think there could be the "eyeball test" in that Washington overall has looked better and more convincing.
The only way I see UW is assured of a spot is for Washington to lose and UW to win. That means both teams have 2 losses and it would be tough to deny the Badgers there.
So maybe time for some style points.
Tschmack posted:The Badgers have to beat Penn State no matter what. I also think Washington has to beat Colorado for them to be safe. Same thing with Clemson but their path is easier than either Wisconsin or Washington.
This makes no sense. If Washington beats Colorado they have only 1 loss. How does this make Badgers safe except safely in the Rose Bowl?
He is saying that if Washington wins, they (Washington) are safe. If they lose, they are out.
What it comes down to is this.....a few teams and their fans are going to be a bit upset in a couple of weeks. Most likely us included.
Win or lose Saturday night, this has been a very successful season. If they don't make the playoff but win the B1G title, I won't be disappointed.
Them meaning Washington, not Wisconsin, ammo. Washington loses then its all bets off for them and opens the door for someone else
phaedrus posted:I don't get this Wisconsin would lose to Michigan stuff. If Speight throws 2 int's and fumbles once like he just did...
This is what kind of gets me. There is now a mentality in things I have been hearing and reading that now apparently they also want a "better game". So is it the whole body of work or is it who would give a better game? It seems to shift around constantly if they are talking about a blue blood program. And no one will say it but I guarantee you that they want as many blue bloods in the playoff as they possibly can and will use any excuse in the book to make it happen.
Think about if for a second if you took away the name Michigan would they be ranked as high as they are? They lose to an unranked Iowa team, lose to OSU (which to me was a playoff game), and wont even play for their conference championship.
Anyhow enough of my whining... This how I see it coming out.
Bama even if they would somehow lose to Florida is as much of a lock as you can possibly be
O$U is in I just don't see there being a way they drop from #2 to #5 not going to happen
Clemson could drop a game to Va Tech. Tech is not great but you just never know and Clemson has been living on the edge. But I think they win and get the #3 spot
Where it will get nuts is if Washington doesn't win this weekend. you will have Washington, Michigan, UW/PSU, Colorado, and Oklahoma all with 2 losses. so who goes in at that point?