Positives/Negative Packers Saints

Positives:

Cobb more involved

James Jones played well, didn't seem to miss Jennings

Stayed with running game today

A comeback win

Negatives:

owned by Brees, but that is nothing new

Saints still a dirty team


Botton line, have to win whether the officiating is good or not.

Positives:
Aaron Rodgers settled down and had a good game, INT excepted.
James Jones came to play.
Randall Cobb continues to give the offense a spark.
Offensive line did a good job protecting Rodgers.
Tramon Williams played well, as did Morgan Burnett
Another good special teams fake punt.

Negatives:
Piss-poor calls by refs.
Porous defense on 3rd and long all day long
Poke in the eye for Rodgers.
Graham Harrell doesn't belong on the field.

+ rodgers can get eye raped, beat the bounty and come back to lead us to victory.

+

Rodgers
Benson
Jones
Great win after Monday night

-

Shields
Refs

+
Rodgers
Cobb
Nelson
Kuhn
Benson

-
Referees
Graham Harrell
Dirty play by the Saints
Poor pass rush in spite of an extremely weak Saints rushing attack
More blown assignments by the DBs. Shields looked lost

++

AR
Receivers had some YAC today
Benson (Starks is never going to get back on the field, Benson's much better)
Pass protection
Run Defense

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Officials
Pass defense
Pass rush

+'s

JJ - amazing catch at the end, 2 TDs...and thank you JJ for catching that TD before it had a chance to get to Finley.
Jordy
Cobb
Benson

-'s
Refs were awful....again.
defensive line penalties.


Nice win after last week.

*
Win despite bad Officating
Jones catch

_
Caper's 3 man prevent victory rush.

+ James Frikkin Jones. I didnt miss some pouty WR nursing a sore boo boo
in a contract year.

+ Nelson fought off the alligator arms to make some big plays

+ Ced Ben runs like a truck. hes due to break one big

+ Cobb

+ we prevailed despite atrocious officiating.

+ McMillan looks like a player


- These calls are due to start evening out

- Defense finally adjusted late but was whipped up and down the field

- whoever was supposed to cover Colston on 3rd and long

- maybe I had too high expectations but I really hoped, after Monday night, that the team would come out inspried and kick some ass. WE snuck by an 0-4 team at home when the kicker missed a fg. I know its the NFL so I wont complain about a win but if were gonna go anywhere this year, weve got to tighten up alot of areas. This was a team the PAnthers kicked around

quote:

Originally posted by The Nerve:
Positives:

Cobb more involved

James Jones played well, didn't seem to miss Jennings

Stayed with running game today

A comeback win

Negatives:

owned by Brees, but that is nothing new

Saints still a dirty team


Botton line, have to win whether the officiating is good or not.

Why would you say that we are a dirty team? I didn't see anything dirty by either team.

I have watched this team for 30 years and they are not a dirty team.

+

GB won in spite of the refs. I rarely bitch about the refs but come on. A blatant offensive PI not called on the Saint TD and a severely blown call on the Sproles fumble UGH!!!!!!!!

Cobb - He needs the ball more

Benson - Tough running but I'd like to see some plays between the tackles

Jones - He was huge today

Arod - He's getting back to his old self

O-Line - They blocked very well today

Attitude - GB played with some anger today. I like it... Although Woody was out of control out there once... Raji too.


-

Harrell - C'mon man!!!!!!!!

Shields - He's gotta be much better than that

Pass Rush - Non existant

Zone Defense - Receivers weren't bumped at the line and it killed us all day

++++++++
Neal the super beast will is now back


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Crying about the bad officiating makes me want to wear purple.

quote:

Why would you say that we are a dirty team? I didn't see anything dirty by either team.

I didn't think the Saints were dirty at all. Somebody pissed Woodson off and he lost it. He needs to control himself better than that.

Raji got a personal foul at the goal line but I didn't see what he did.

quote:

Originally posted by Yingers:

quote:

Originally posted by The Nerve:
Positives:

Cobb more involved

James Jones played well, didn't seem to miss Jennings

Stayed with running game today

A comeback win

Negatives:

owned by Brees, but that is nothing new

Saints still a dirty team


Botton line, have to win whether the officiating is good or not.

Why would you say that we are a dirty team? I didn't see anything dirty by either team.

I have watched this team for 30 years and they are not a dirty team.

Maybe it was just the desperation coming through, but they looked like they were pushing the boundaries and playing chippy, after the whistle football on multiple occasions. If not for their penalties, the Packers probably lose this one.

Anyway good game fellas. I new we should have gone for it on fourth down. Even if the field goal was good, there was too much time left on the clock.

I didn't bother me that bad about the missed call on the fumble because if McCarthy had not wasted the first challenge on an obvious play, he would have been able to challenge the non fumble call and GB would have gotten the ball on the challenge.

RG was totally blown up our team over BS!! But as you found out after last week when BS happens to your team their isn't much sympathy from other fan bases, because anything bad for you is good for them.

I hope ya'll make it to the SuperBowl. If nothing else if you can knock Atlanta out of the playoffs again, I would appreciate it.

quote:

Originally posted by Pack-Man:

quote:

Originally posted by Yingers:

quote:

Originally posted by The Nerve:
Positives:

Cobb more involved

James Jones played well, didn't seem to miss Jennings

Stayed with running game today

A comeback win

Negatives:

owned by Brees, but that is nothing new

Saints still a dirty team


Botton line, have to win whether the officiating is good or not.

They just looked frustrated to me. I think everything that is going on is wearing on them mentally.

Why would you say that we are a dirty team? I didn't see anything dirty by either team.

I have watched this team for 30 years and they are not a dirty team.

Maybe it was just the desperation coming through, but they looked like they were pushing the boundaries and playing chippy, after the whistle football on multiple occasions. If not for their penalties, the Packers probably lose this one.

+ Fake punt won the game.
+ Make a 3rd down when you need it to kill the clock. CB was key.


- Refs, again, but made the plays to win pretty much this time around.
- It never should have gotten down to a 'freeze' by the defense.


NFLFU. We won, suck on your 0-4 Ain'ts.

I'll ask it here.

Why wasn't there a topic for the game?

What happened to this site?

Talk about perplexed.

+
What an awesome win. So glad they stuck in it and delivered.

-
No need for me to be negative. This team has had enough adversity early this season and they are pushing through.

Minus - No Blogging for IPAD users on Times-Four.

quote:

Originally posted by Pakrz:

quote:

Why would you say that we are a dirty team? I didn't see anything dirty by either team.

I didn't think the Saints were dirty at all. Somebody pissed Woodson off and he lost it. He needs to control himself better than that.

Raji got a personal foul at the goal line but I didn't see what he did.

He kneed a Saints player in the head and shoved him to the ground. Again, it just looked like some of the players were frustrated. I didn't see anyone intentionally trying to injure anyone.

quote:

Originally posted by Yingers:
Anyway good game fellas. I new we should have gone for it on fourth down. Even if the field goal was good, there was too much time left on the clock.

I didn't bother me that bad about the missed call on the fumble because if McCarthy had not wasted the first challenge on an obvious play, he would have been able to challenge the non fumble call and GB would have gotten the ball on the challenge.

IIRC, they were going to have to call TO anyway to avoid a delay of game penalty. Kind of stupid to burn a challenge when you know it's going the wrong way but maybe they were going to make yet another stupid call.

Still, good game.

+
1. Offensive Line
2. Rodgers (319, 4 TDs, comeback)
3. Receivers (Jones, Cobb, Finley, Nelson)
4. Composure - they had to deal with a lot of BS towards the end of the game, besides Woodson's little freak out I thought they did a nice job of staying focused and winning
5. Defense when it mattered - goal line stands, late game
6. 2-2

-
1. I'm a whiny douche
2. Pass rush - hard to stop Brees when he has all day
3. Coverage breakdown - seems to be one every game
4. Penalties - especially offsides
5. Harrell

And the officiating was awful. Not something Packers can control but it's awful frustrating to keep getting shafted

I could SWEAR....

listening to the postgame stream...

I heard someone yell "REO SPEEDWAGON" in the background while Lang is talking.

Pos:
Cobb - adds a fun dimension to the offense.
Benson - runs hard and has been a reliable check down for AR. Offense runs much smoother when MM sticks with the run game
Jones - had a great game
AR12 - looked like the MVP today
MM - gutsy call on the fake punt
Officials - provided some flow back to the game, but see negatives below

Neg:
Pass defense - looked like last year with the middle of field so wide open all day
Pass rush - see above
Officials - had a bad 1st game back. No excuse for missing the Colston push in the end zone and the Sproles fumble. Could have cost us the game.
Harrell - WTF was that? 1st & goal at the two and can't complete a simple hand-off. Another sequence that damn near cost us the game

Harrell was pathetic. TT should make an effort at getting Flynn back.

Here's a question: when you're facing a QB like Brees, why play zone? Why not play more man-to-man especially on third down? It just seems as though the Packer secondary gets so confused in their zone assignments.

quote:

Originally posted by LAstockholder:
Harrell was pathetic. TT should make an effort at getting Flynn back.

...

Seriously? IMO it was a bad call and he got tripped. I don't see that as Harrel's fault.

Besides, Flynn is getting 4 million a year to sit on the bench in SEA. How or why would TT ever consider getting him back?

About Harrell, notice how many times Rodgers has tripped this season already? Saturday is constantly getting pushed backwards at initial contact. I don't think he's horrible but he has never been a mauler type. I'm hoping TT is looking to invest a high pick/FA for center this next year.

But Harrell at QB still gives me the heebie jeebies.

That is a good point. Hoping that Saturday will improve as he gets more comfortable with the offense, but the guy is 37.

Everyone knew it would be a run with Harrell. How about a quick pass??

Yea no thanks on the quick pass pick 6.

Letting Wells walk for the amount of money he ended up getting was still the right move of course. I had hoped that Saturday would bring more toughness to the line, but that still remains to be seen. Definitely a position that will be addressed early in the draft next year since Saturday will be 38.

quote:

Originally posted by Yingers:
Anyway good game fellas. I new we should have gone for it on fourth down. Even if the field goal was good, there was too much time left on the clock.

I didn't bother me that bad about the missed call on the fumble because if McCarthy had not wasted the first challenge on an obvious play, he would have been able to challenge the non fumble call and GB would have gotten the ball on the challenge.

RG was totally blown up our team over BS!! But as you found out after last week when BS happens to your team their isn't much sympathy from other fan bases, because anything bad for you is good for them.

I hope ya'll make it to the SuperBowl. If nothing else if you can knock Atlanta out of the playoffs again, I would appreciate it.

That play couldnt have been challenged because the recovery wasnt clear.. Once the runner is ruled down by contact, it can only be reversed if recovery is obvious.

paws.

+ Running game showed signs of life.
+ Slocom.. Controled Sproles and the fake.
+ Offense can move fine without Jennings.. He gone.
+ Run defense.

Negs..

- Capers.. At one point Clay was cursing him on live TV for getting the play in late.. His soft zone on 3rd down got abused.. Players out of position..

- Zebras.. 3 huge missed calls.

Rodgers gets a 4th quarter comeback I guess. Probalby will have to have a few more this year.

quote:

Why would you say that we are a dirty team? I didn't see anything dirty by either team.

Agree. These were 2 highly frustrated teams both desperately needing a need a win and that's what was showing.

While Triplette's crew was just awful, one good thing appears to be league-wide that the tempo of offenses like GB's, NO's, and NE's benefited from the regular ref's getting the ball down quickly and keeping the tempo where it was in 2011.

Just maybe that's why Brees, Rodgers, Brady, and Manning looked a lot like themselves today.

+++

Morgan Burnett has done a much better job of tackling the last 2 games.
Seeing a few screens again.
Jordy and James came up big with no Jennings.

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Another drop or 2 by Finley
Sheilds
Where was M. D. Jennings?

Jennings left with an injury in the first half.

Pickett left in 2nd.

Both Jennings hurt----Greg in street clothes at end.

Groin.