Positives/Negative Packers Saints

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Pickett left in 2nd.

He did return however. Tough SOB. He's having a good season thus far.

I'm not going to bag on Shields too much. Yes, he had a blown coverage but he kept sticking his nose in it and being physical. Blame that **** zone defense were they didn't challenge the receeivers off the line at all. Hayward got beat but also had a good performance against a very good passing offense. I think in the light of the front 7 not putting consistent heat on Brees (kudos to Saints oline) the secondary did a imperfect but admirable job.

I really like what I see when Hayward and McMillian are in the game. Get house back and things are looking even better.

Pickett and Hawk have both been very active on the field this year. Lot's of energy from those guys.

+ Packers won
- I missed the game

- I missed the game
+ Spent the weekend at the coast



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@WesHod
Cedric Benson on win, refs: "I think those calls/situations are training us for something to come in the future, preparing a path for us"

On that play I thought I saw Woody or one of the safetys making a hand gesture at Sheilds, he obviously didn't see it.

Bad play, but not the worst missed call of the game.

By far the funniest was the D with the freeze on the FG attempt. Intentional or not, it was effective.

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Originally posted by ammo:
Another drop or 2 by Finley

I clearly remember the one, which I think needs to have some credit go to the defender (James Jones disagrees). I don't recall another. Jordy had the worst drop of the day IMHUOP

Speaking of

JAMES JONES IS WORTH EVERY PENNY

The newly released front side shoulder fade.

Loved it.

JJ came up with the play to win the game. Flag or not on it, it was the dagger.

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Originally posted by Henry:
About Harrell, notice how many times Rodgers has tripped this season already? Saturday is constantly getting pushed backwards at initial contact. I don't think he's horrible but he has never been a mauler type. I'm hoping TT is looking to invest a high pick/FA for center this next year.

But Harrell at QB still gives me the heebie jeebies.

Yeah, I mentioned that tripping thing to my wife last week.

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James Jones
Finley (despite a drop or two)
Jordy
Cobb
AR


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Late game fighting by Raji and Woodson. I don't doubt that they had
reasons, but this is a veteran SB team; show some discipline. Did you notice when Woodson got so upset that Clay Matthews stood well away just shaking his head? C'mon, Woody, you're a lot older than CM3; you should be able to handle it. And Raji's foul gave them the Saints an extra set of downs on the doorstep--foolish!
and of course.......the freaking blind refs!

Only explanation for the Raji foul is that he must have verbally abused the refs. I think they were tired of getting hollered at.

Though I might add, they deserved it.

I do think our DB's look better this year than last year. and that excites me. But allowing all those 3rd and long completions in the center of the field needs to be addressed by the DC!

+ For the second straight week this team came back from adversity, they are learning to be tough

+ running game is developing, can't wait until we are team that will run on 3rd and 3-4

- zone defense, I know there is always a mixture of man/zone out there but this team is more suited towards man IMO

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Originally posted by Henry:
Blame that **** zone defense were they didn't challenge the receeivers off the line at all.

This. Receivers running free with Brees in the pocket is not a recipe for success.

Slodum is carrying this team. That's right I said it. Without a fake field goal and punt this team could be winless.

Now I have to go brush my teeth.

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NewO offense lightin up our defense

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NewO offense not going to the playoffs

66 plays, only 8 3rd downs! Very good 1st and 2nd down efficiency.

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Originally posted by FarmDog:
Everyone knew it would be a run with Harrell. How about a quick pass??

GB should have went to the punt formation. Kuhn............

Sneak?

I think Shields looked lost due to poor communication. I don't think it was all his fault.

Sure wish I knew who was supposed to be covering Colston.

Saints had 700 pounds of beef on Clay all day long. He still got a sack & a bunch of hurries. Dude is the sickest linebacker since Clay Matthews played for the Browns

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Sure wish I knew who was supposed to be covering Colston.

If you're talking about the long TD, Shields addressed that in an interview. He said it was all on him. He got caught looking into the backfield and indicated that it can't happen again.

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Originally posted by Hungry5:
66 plays, only 8 3rd downs! Very good 1st and 2nd down efficiency.

that's outstanding

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Originally posted by BrainDed:
paws.

+ Running game showed signs of life.
+ Slocom.. Controled Sproles and the fake.
+ Offense can move fine without Jennings.. He gone.
+ Run defense.

Negs..

- Capers.. At one point Clay was cursing him on live TV for getting the play in late.. His soft zone on 3rd down got abused.. Players out of position..

- Zebras.. 3 huge missed calls.

Did anyone notice Hawk yelling god$&@&$@ a couple plays before regarding the same thing. Got to wonder what is going on with plays getting called in???

Here:

http://timesfour.com/eve/forum...8109321/m/5664031528

The radio mentioned that the plays were going through Morgan Burnett, since we planned on playing a 4-7 defense (7 DBs and no ILBs). That meant that Hawk did not have the calls and there seemed to be some times when the calls were slower coming from Burnett than they would have been from Hawk/Smith. The 7 DB scheme went away when Doc Jennings got hurt, as the next 7th DB is Bush. Bit of a gimmick, which didn't work well and interfered with communication. I like coaches who poke the box and try new things, but they don't all work.

positive: I didn't know Darren Sproles had played Sunday until he fumbled the kickoff.

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Originally posted by hof1991:
Bit of a gimmick, which didn't work well and interfered with communication. I like coaches who poke the box and try new things, but they don't all work.

It might a little early for a funeral on this one. Capers rolled this out to combat what happened last time around- Brees and Sproles targeted Hawk & Bishop and killed the Packers with their short passing game

We know that alignment was a failure because our ILBs simply aren't athletic enough and being too slow isn't a correctable flaw

The 7 DB alignment can work; execution and communication are both fixable items

Give it some time, I think its a viable plan when faced with a high octane offense.

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positive: I didn't know Darren Sproles had played Sunday until he fumbled the kickoff.

Great point.. I was worried about what he was going to do to Hawk / Smith. Kudos to Slocum, Crosby and the Ginger for containing him on returns as well.

Great post Satori.

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The 7 DB alignment

Ed Donatell coined it the "Dollar Package". Used it vs. the Rams (with wild success) but of course our hero had to throw 6 INT's. Then Belichick used it to win the Super Bowl

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Originally posted by Tdog:
positive: I didn't know Darren Sproles had played Sunday until he fumbled the kickoff.

So you missed:
5 carries, 20 yds rushing
5 catches, 44 yds receiving (1 TDs)


Not a great game by any stretch but he did score a TD, just sayin.

Billy B even used 6 DBs and Troy Brown as the 7th didn't he?

Agree that Donatell used it successfully years ago and the league took notice.

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So you missed:
5 carries, 20 yds rushing
5 catches, 44 yds receiving (1 TDs)

any RB can do that. they contained him so I didn't really notice. keeping Sproles from a 20-30 yarder or better is good enough for me.

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Billy B even used 6 DBs and Troy Brown as the 7th didn't he?

Correct.

It seems other head coaches took notice & looked at WR's & turned them into DB's too (Sam Shields)

The old joke was you lined up your fastest guys and the ones who could catch were made receivers, the other d-backs.

With that in mind I'm almost surprised nobody has suggested moving Finley to Strong Safety.

I suppose that might work, he would fall down in coverage and they would trip over him.