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I don't think the bears are far from competetive either.  That first half would've been tough without their shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly.  But they're also at a critical point in their development.  Can Fox (I can't help but see Herschel from the walking dead everytime they show his face on tv) get them to the next level?  Can they develop Trubisky enough for that to happen?  They seem to have discipline issues (lack of fundamentals = stupid penalties and turnovers) which the coaches need to clean up.  I don't know if they can.  It could go back south in a hurry or they could take a step very soon.  Hard to say.

Fox wants to be fired. He's so uninvested it's comical. Fox was told about the Trubisky draft day trade a few hours before it went down. The last thing he wants is Trubisky getting credit for saving his job when he wasn't part of giving away picks to get him. 

Things are going to get really bleak in Chicago before they get better. And Fox won't be part of any of it. That organization is a nasty mess. 

ChilliJon posted:

15-4 W/L record. 4,600 yards. 42 TDs and only 9 INTs. 

I'd say Bear staffs have done a pretty bang up job helping develop Aaron Rodgers. 

And one of those losses was the game he played one series after breaking his collarbone. He's really 15-3. 





BrainDed posted:

Watch Linsley on this TD.   Absolutely perfect combo.  He should have been the one spiking the ball and doing the leap. 

Also, watch DikRod, he do what he do.

http://video.nfl.com/films/vod..._192951634_5000k.mp4

The middle was so wide open The Ripper had no one to block.  He never touched a soul with his lead block. 

ammo posted:
ChilliJon posted:

I don't want Minny to win. I want Detroit to lose. Big difference. 

How about a tie?  Best of both worlds for the Pack. 

Disagree.

I think a tie would mean basically a win for both by the end of the season. 

I don't care who wins. Packers need to win & it won't matter. Just like every year.

SanDiegoPackFan posted:
Packdog posted:
Starting to wonder if Jared Cook wasn't a better fit for this offense, Martellius looks out of sync and even slow at times. Hopefully still settling in. 

Good point.  I have been thinking the same thing.  It's early yet.  We'll know more as the season gets old.

I have seen a lot of comment about Bennett vs Cook and I would offer this up, Cook is much closer to a wr and Bennett closer to an OT.  Bennett is tall and thick but has fair speed, Cook is more willowy  and much faster.  The difference is Bennett is complete he can block and block effectively as well as the 10-15 yrd route.   Cook really ran the seam well and he could be deadly on the deep in, but he couldn't block me. There is a lot of rumbling that Bennett has looked mediocre but in his defense he has been chipping almost every play to help the tackles, this disrupts timing and it makes blocking difficult because of the angles and unfamiliarity with your blocking mate.  I really expect Bennett to be the guy the tam drafted later in the season- the guy who can be Cook lite is Kendricks.  When the O-line gets healthy watch him start to get some of those routes!

There may be a bit of underselling Bennett in that Cook comparison.  Cook was pretty stiff.  Bennett was always much more athletic and is very good at going up for jump balls, not unlike Finley was.  I don't know based on what I've seen so far if Bennett isn't dialed in yet, isn't comfortable in the offense or his role in it, or if he's hitting a wall physically.  I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt after 4 games but my expectations for him in the second half of the season are much higher.

Thing to keep in mind about Cooks catch in Dallas. It took him 17 minutes to jog across the field to find a hole in the D along the sideline. That play was 95% Rodgers 1% route 4% catch. 

I’ve watched that replay 50 times. I still can’t fully comprehend how Rodgers threw that pass rolling left twice on that trajectory 39 yards off the wrong foot to that window. It shouldn’t be possible. 

I’ve seen 5 yard outs from a clean pocket that weren’t in a better catchable window than that pass. The trajectory and velocity. That throw doesn’t compute. 

If that pass isn’t thrown when it was thrown on the trajectory and velocity that it was thrown the clock probably hits zeros. 

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