Reggie McKenzie fired as Raiders' GM

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Originally posted by Pakrz:

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Originally posted by Fedya:
He's welcome to take Slocum with him.

Why, because you can't pull your head out of your ass long enough to realize that GB's special teams play is actually a strength on the team? Of course, Slocum has nothing to do with that at all.

God forbid, we allow a young coach to develop and learn.

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Originally posted by Pakrz:

Why, because you can't pull your head out of your ass long enough to realize that GB's special teams play is actually a strength on the team? Of course, Slocum has nothing to do with that at all.

I was going to post the same thing, albeit while attempting to be a bit smoother around the edges . I've been as vocal a critic of Slocum as there has been, but this year special teams is really functioning well in all facets. Slocum has proved me wrong.

Reggie already putting his stamp on the Raiduhs... only room for one sheriff in town, Hue.

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@AdamSchefter: Raiders fired Hue Jackson.

Hue not so tough now, is he? Apparently, Reggie is a bit more impulsive than his old boss.

The new Green Bay West?

Yup! See you, Winston Moss.

Wonder if Moss takes some Packers assistants with him? Maybe make Darren Perry the D coordinator there. He was interviewed or at least mentioned last season as a potential candidate for the Raiders D coordinator job I think

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Originally posted by Goalline:
Hue not so tough now, is he? Apparently, Reggie is a bit more impulsive than his old boss.

Reggie broke into the personnel business under Ron Wolf. RW didn't waste time when he'd made a decision.

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Originally posted by Hungry5:

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Originally posted by Pakrz:
True... Don't want to lose Perry, Whitt, Trgovac or Greene.

I could see Trgovac going as the DC, the other 3 prolly stay in GB ... for now.

Actually, Trgovac stated earlier this season that he intends to stay in GB until his kids finish high school, which is another year or 2.

Even he waited till the end of the season to fire Infante.

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Originally posted by MNPackman:

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Originally posted by Hungry5:

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Originally posted by Pakrz:
True... Don't want to lose Perry, Whitt, Trgovac or Greene.

I could see Trgovac going as the DC, the other 3 prolly stay in GB ... for now.

Actually, Trgovac stated earlier this season that he intends to stay in GB until his kids finish high school, which is another year or 2.

Excellent because he is a Great DL coach!

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Originally posted by CAPackfan:
Wonder if Moss takes some Packers assistants with him? Maybe make Darren Perry the D coordinator there. He was interviewed or at least mentioned last season as a potential candidate for the Raiders D coordinator job I think

Schefter reporting that Perry is a strong candidate for the HC job in addition to Moss.

Losing all our assistants? Relax. We have one thing going for us VS Oakland or anybody else. We have the City of Green Bay, the Packer Organization and Lambeau Field. MM is a well liked coach.

Can't blame anyone who moves up to GM or Head Coach. But, our D isn't that great that we will miss guys who do go. Heck we are close to last in yards.

Also, I think TT knew he was losing McKenzie and he planned for it long ago.

WE ARE GREEN BAY!

WOW!! Huge news out of Oaktown.

Reggie definitely showing who the new sheriff is.

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Originally posted by Boris:

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Originally posted by The GBP Rules:
First step, fire Hue Jackson.

Disagree. I think Hue can be a good head coach. He is worse than Mike Sherman at being a "GM" though. He caught the Raiders at a vulnerable time and was able to get Carson Palmer by giving up a kings ransom.

(Can you believe the Bengals got those draft picks for Carson and all we got for Favre was a 3rd rounder?)

As long as Reggie has full power over all football operations, this is a very good thing for the Raiders. Don't be surprised to see the Raiders in the playoffs as early as next season.

Reason I thought he needed to go was because he was too power hungry. He was basically running the whole show after Davis died and then had the guts to try and put his stamp on the GM search. He needed to go, start fresh in Oakland with an entirely new regime. Choking the playoff spot and the lousy trade were just the deal clinchers.

Yup. Good call on your part. Was wondering if Reggie had full power although I can't see him taking the job without it. Guess we know the answer now

I hope reggie has some success there. would like to keep Whitt. I think the secondarys problem has been due to the lack of pass rush. Shields and Tramon were just outstanding last year and I don't think they got worse. The front seven did. And Moss can go. For as good as Hawk played at the end of last year he just has not been good this year at all. Arm tackles, running backs bouncing off his hits instead of trying to wrap them up, and God help us if he has to cover Sproles again like he did last time. Probably the only bad contract Ted has given out in the last few years. I would feel better with Francois or Smith in there.

Hue is FuHueming_REggie is going to gut this place he says. It is a new day in Oakland for sure.

If McKenzie GM's in the the style of ROTTT then the coach had to go. Trading a 1 and a 2 for an old QB, that is a hanging offence,

New GMs typically want their own guy and being the driving force behind the Palmer trade sure didn't help his case. I was a little surprised TT even gave Sherman another year.

I remember Bob Harlan saying that when he hired TT, he asked Thompson to keep Sherman around as head coach for at least one more year. I think TT did that as a courtesy to Harlan. After the 2005 season, Harlan gave TT his blessing for terminating Sherman after it was apparent that Sherman and TT couldn't work together.

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I was a little surprised TT even gave Sherman another year

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I remember Bob Harlan saying that when he hired TT, he asked Thompson to keep Sherman around as head coach for at least one more year. I think TT did that as a courtesy to Harlan.

P.B. You're correct

I'd never heard that before and I'm a little surprised that Harlan would tie TT's hands in that manner.

Don Banks of SI has a great article about why getting rid of Jackson was a no-brainer. Jackson revealed as an inveterate self-promoter, back-stabber and power grabbing jerk. Link

A lot of media types are jumping up and down saying how unfair this is to Jackson. Goes to show you how much any coach kissing a reporter/reporters' ass influences how these guys write their "stories" and "analysis". The Carson Palmer trade alone reveals how over his head and incompetent this guy is.

Not sure if posted but Winston Moss is a top candidate. If we keep winning, can he interview?
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-...ckers-coaching-staff

Unnecessary.

Edit by Boris: Change my edit one more time and you won't be posting until Brett Favre returns to play in a Packer uniform.

They had quotes from Jackson after getting canned this afternoon on NFL radio. What a blowhard. Talking about how McKenzie's going to gut the team, nobody is safe, etc.

As long as McKenzie doesn't take any of the Packers front office people, I'm okay with him going. He deserves the GM role and he will do well with it.

I was just about to ask if you think Reggie is going to raid the Packers for personnel.

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Originally posted by Point Brewmaster:
I remember Bob Harlan saying that when he hired TT, he asked Thompson to keep Sherman around as head coach for at least one more year. I think TT did that as a courtesy to Harlan. After the 2005 season, Harlan gave TT his blessing for terminating Sherman after it was apparent that Sherman and TT couldn't work together.

After he lost the GM job, Sherman acted like a pouting child during the remainder of his time in Green Bay. This was the year that NFL Network caught him taking a nap at the combine, and it was pretty obvious all year long that he didn't care much about the outcome of the games. Before that season, he sometimes would get worked up and yell at the refs or certain players, he became a statue on the sidelines in 2005.

Saw (seen?) Reggie during his press conference. He said he goes with his gut.

Also, as soon as Reggie was hired I guess he told Hue to not show up to the press conference since he won't be coaching the Raiders in 2012.

This is a complete shift in culture for the Raiders. The hot rumor is Winston Moss for HC. I expect Reggie to grab some of the guys from Green Bay.

It's ok, this is a good thing. As long as we keep Eliot Wolf, John Dorsey as well as TT, MM and Dom, I have full confidence in our organization to continue winning.

Somewhere the NFL brass is smiling tonight because the dysfucntion of the Raiders is over.

Most penalties & penalty yards in NFL history this year. Also, the Raiders have 7 of the top 10 spots on this list.

Reggie stated this was performance related, not what Hue said at the end of the year.

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Originally posted by Boris:
Saw (seen?) Reggie during his press conference. He said he goes with his gut.

My gut usually says it is time to eat - and judging by Reggie wasteline, I wouldn't be thinking with my gut.

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Originally posted by Boris:
Reggie stated this was performance related, not what Hue said at the end of the year.

What a person says is part of their performance. If the words a person uses don't match what they actually do, it is losey performance. At least it is on my job. So while Reggie said that, he was being nice. Those words by Hue certainly did not help him stay employed.

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Somewhere the NFL brass is smiling tonight because the dysfucntion of the Raiders is over

WoW, That's quite a statement. Let's see in three years.

Boris, are you part of this Oakland team!!!

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My gut usually says it is time to eat - and judging by Reggie wasteline, I wouldn't be thinking with my gut.

A mind is a terrible thing to waist.

Meanwhile, Raiders owner Mark Davis has admitted that he's had discussed with groups in L.A. to move the team back to SoCal:

Link

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Originally posted by Ghost of Lambeau:
losey performance.

I like that. We should see this phrase again on X4.

Please don't make this Packers West!

Not a very smart Raider fan starting that thread.

Raider fan: Yes by all means, we in Oakland don't want Super Bowl titles, & structure and a solid organization from top to bottom.

Boris, that was an awesome read.

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Yeah cuz the Packers suck...winning SBs and almost going undefeated this season...I don't want that crap here