@Pakrz posted:A week or so ago 12 said his time in NY has been the best of his career. Now he's telling Pam Oliver he fell out of love with football but fell back into it in NY.
Fuck that guy.
Not sure they love him
Lazard wide open with 8 locked on 17 again. 
Might be Rodgers last game. Guess Iâll tune in for a look. Great career but thought weâd have another SB win with him.
Rodgers with 500 TD passes now.
Just saw itâĶ..was a pretty pass.
@vitaflo posted:Think about it, the Jets had both the offensive and defensive rookies of the year (Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner) and a top 5 ranked defense in 2022, and then pick up both Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams.
In 2022 they were 7-10 with Zach Wilson. These ROY's have 2 years to get even better and they add in one of the best QB/WR tandems of all time to go along with that defense?
And yet they only manage 4 wins? How the hell does this happen on a team stacked with talent? If you say it's all coaching then Andy Reid needs to make more money than Mahomes.
It's the difference between a team being good on paper and a team that's good on the field.
I don't see it that much different than the Packers defense,
On paper, they should be an iron wall.
On field, they're certainly not.
TD Rahhhhdgahhs!!! To Davante Adams!! #502
This fanbase sometimes man I swear https://t.co/wdPdfXi7v1
â Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) January 5, 2025
That's not a bad ending if it's the last pass he throws.
@Timmy! posted:It's the difference between a team being good on paper and a team that's good on the field.
I don't see it that much different than the Packers defense,
On paper, they should be an iron wall.
On field, they're certainly not.
Their OL is terrible. That's part of it.
Good game for ARâĶtoday he can physically still play. Iâd like to see him on a good team. But, he ainât getting younger
@Pikes Peak posted:Good game for ARâĶtoday he can physically still play. Iâd like to see him on a good team. But, he ainât getting younger
If a team like the Eagles or Lions lost their starter to a season-ending injury next training camp, that's where he could succeed. He needs a good OL to play behind at this point.
@Pikes Peak posted:Good game for ARâĶtoday he can physically still play. Iâd like to see him on a good team. But, he ainât getting younger
He can for fits and starts, but there's no chance of getting another ring. The pickleball courts are calling his name.
If that was AR's last NFL game he went out a winner. First pass he threw today was an INT, he then played great the rest of the game with 4 TD passes.
@D J posted:If that was AR's last NFL game he went out a winner. First pass he threw today was an INT, he then played great the rest of the game with 4 TD passes.
It helps to play a team playing out the string and trying not to get hurt.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:It helps to play a team playing out the string and trying not to get hurt.
Like the Bears?
@Pikes Peak posted:Like the Bears?
Yes, and like the Packers did today. They were trying not to get hurt. If they weren't Jacobs would have been playing. Wilson and Brooks ran well, but there were a couple of nice runs he had that he got tackled by one guy in the secondary. Jacobs may have housed one or both of those.
The Bears would have folded if the Packers would have actually tried. MLF coached tentatively (and stupidly) and he rubbed off on the team.
@titmfatied posted:
6:33 of that for how special he thought his time was with the Jets.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:It helps to play a team playing out the string and trying not to get hurt.
The Dolphins had a chance at the playoffs.
Think about the Jets first round QB drafts.
They're all still in the league with 2 of them starting....and the 3rd one has probably the best arm of the 3
Cautionary lesson about building a foundation for a team based on being ready for a young QB instead of relying on a young QB to turn the program around. Everything starts and ends with the offensive line, imo. If that's not there you're up the creek without a paddle.
CONGRATULATIONS TO AARON RODGERS ON ONE OF THE GREATEST CAREERS EVERâĶ
â MLFootball (@_MLFootball) January 6, 2025
If this is it, itâs been one hell of a ride, from a guy who started at a local community college.
4x MVP
Super Bowl Champion
10x Pro Bowler
5x All-Pro
NFL 2010s All-Decade Team
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Aaron had a nice finale.
Good for him.
This place is so funny. Got the majority loving Quay Walker who literally pushed the opposing teams medical guy while attempting to tend to a injured player and sucks but hating on Rodgers after he got traded.
Makes sense.
I hated him before he traded.
What I don't get is how some people still don't understand that it's possible to respect and appreciate a player's contribution to the team, while also calling him out when he acts wacky or giving him crap because he is now an opposing player. Both things can be true.
@BrainDed posted:This place is so funny. Got the majority loving Quay Walker who literally pushed the opposing teams medical guy while attempting to tend to a injured player and sucks but hating on Rodgers after he got traded.
Makes sense.
Quay plays for the Packers, Rodgers doesn't. It's not hard.
@vitaflo posted:It's not hard.
It clearly is for some folks ðĪ·ðŧ
I had a big smile on my face when he threw TD pass #500. He didn't force it to Adams. He hit the wide open TE, Conklin. Pretty cool that he's the guy to get in on the trivia question.
Rodgers had that 1 throw down the sidelines late in 4th quarter, back shoulder & Davante did Davante Adams things to make the catch. I'm sure most of the Jets fans were like....."Where was this shit 2 months ago?!?!"ð That's football!ðŦĄ
Silly Rumors Dept.
AR to SF along with Selah as DC. Or...
AR to Chicago as 1st owner/coach
Everybody loves a come back story.
It will be interesting to see where he ends up. I can't imagine him voluntarily retiring. He likes the attention way too much. Maybe RFK Jr. will give him a job in HHS where he can do press conferences and get the attention he craves (the fact that I can type that and it's not even a joke is surreal).
Maybe he starts his own podcast or signs to be on Mcafee for even more time.
He'll have to wait until after the draft to see who may need a QB otherwise.
MM and AR to New Orleans, please, make it happen.
What could go rong ?
@MichiganPacker2 posted:It will be interesting to see where he ends up. I can't imagine him voluntarily retiring. He likes the attention way too much. Maybe RFK Jr. will give him a job in HHS where he can do press conferences and get the attention he craves (the fact that I can type that and it's not even a joke is surreal).
Maybe he starts his own podcast or signs to be on Mcafee for even more time.
He'll have to wait until after the draft to see who may need a QB otherwise.
AR will have a hard time walking away from the spotlight agree. And his ego also doesnât want this last year to be the kind of season he ends his career on either.
Now he may not have many options for a starting gig, but all it takes is 1 owner whoâs convinced he can look like the AR of a few years ago.
I wonder what Shanahan thinks of him.
As soon as he's cut the Queens will come calling, mark it down. 
@DurangoDoug posted:As soon as he's cut the Queens will come calling, mark it down.
His house in GB is still on the market. He can commute to Minny. His last act. De-railing that franchise's hope for an OWL for another year at least!
At this point in his career, I'm not too sure AR would handle pressure any better than Darnold did.
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@Pikes Peak posted:MM and AR to New Orleans, please, make it happen.
What could go rong ?
Lol but MM already removed himself from New Orleans HC gig. Bad roster, bad cap situation, heâd rather wait it out til next year.
With AR gone from the Jets could Davonte Adams be next?
@packerboi posted:AR will have a hard time walking away from the spotlight agree. And his ego also doesnât want this last year to be the kind of season he ends his career on either.
Now he may not have many options for a starting gig, but all it takes is 1 owner whoâs convinced he can look like the AR of a few years ago.
AR had as good a season as Mahomes in 2024, probably a bit better, on a team [Jets] who have no idea what they are doing.
@GreenBayLA posted:Lol but MM already removed himself from New Orleans HC gig. Bad roster, bad cap situation, heâd rather wait it out til next year.
My advice to him is he should take whatever he can get because he isnât that good anyway and besides, he probably removed himself to make it look good because he knew he wasnât getting the job to begin with
The only open QB position that would not be considered a major rebuild is Pittsburgh but I don't see any way Tomlin brings Rodgers in. Other than that, he's looking at the Titans, Browns, Raiders, and the Giants. Two of those teams are taking a QB high. Does Rodgers really play the last 1-2 years of his career for a bottom 5 team with no hopes at making the playoffs?
What does Shanahan think of him? It would be very LAR-esque in a Goff-Stafford way for SF to replace Purdy with him. I just don't know that AR has enough left to justify that move.
Pittsburgh, Minnesota or SF
Retirement. That's what I think he should do.
@CUPackFan posted:The only open QB position that would not be considered a major rebuild is Pittsburgh but I don't see any way Tomlin brings Rodgers in. Other than that, he's looking at the Titans, Browns, Raiders, and the Giants. Two of those teams are taking a QB high. Does Rodgers really play the last 1-2 years of his career for a bottom 5 team with no hopes at making the playoffs?
I also would find it really hard to believe that Tomlin would bring him in. Its a very un-Steeler thing to do. And why would he go to any of those other teams? Is he wanted to go home and play for SF would the 49ers really go for a washed up Rodgers over Purdy at this point? perhaps but I can't see it.
I would keep an eye on the Browns. That team is desperate for a QB and they might do just about anything to get one even if it is someone on their last legs.
I would really enjoy that because my next door neighbor is from Cleveland, and he used to give me crap in Rodgers last year in GB. I would get to return that favor if he went there and sucked for the Browns.
I can't see his big head fitting in anywhere but a team he thinks has a chance at success.
Didnât he play OK the last half of the season or so?
What about the Vikings? I wonder if Devante follows AR to a new team or if he is looking for a long(er) term situation as he is getting into last contract territory.
I donât think the Vikes need or can afford another receiver
I think Rodgers' time in New York has quelled the thoughts of him making a team an "instant contender".
Minny and SF, in that order, would give him the best chance of succeeding. But the Vikes still have to fix their OL to make that happen.
SF would need to improve theirs, and they need a RB to round out their offense.
@The Heckler posted:I also would find it really hard to believe that Tomlin would bring him in. Its a very un-Steeler thing to do. And why would he go to any of those other teams? Is he wanted to go home and play for SF would the 49ers really go for a washed up Rodgers over Purdy at this point? perhaps but I can't see it.
I would keep an eye on the Browns. That team is desperate for a QB and they might do just about anything to get one even if it is someone on their last legs.
I would really enjoy that because my next door neighbor is from Cleveland, and he used to give me crap in Rodgers last year in GB. I would get to return that favor if he went there and sucked for the Browns.
Stefanskiâs job title for 2025 might as well be Tank Commander. The Browns arenât poised to want to win a game and probably pining to be in the driverâs seat for Arch Manning.
@WolfPack posted:Pittsburgh, Minnesota or SF
Pittsburgh is interesting.
That's the 1 place he isn't bigger than the Head Coach.
Steelers ain't winning anything with Russ Fields or Justin Wilson playing
@The Heckler posted:I also would find it really hard to believe that Tomlin would bring him in. Its a very un-Steeler thing to do.
That's why they might do it
@Pikes Peak posted:Didnât he play OK the last half of the season or so?
He was clearly still at least a league-average QB and obviously can still read defenses well. If you were a Super Bowl contender and your starting QB went down in Week 15 next year, he'd be the first guy you'd probably call in. The example is Flacco with the Browns in 2023. Watson got hurt/sucked and the Browns were then trying to make the playoffs with Dorian Thompson-Robinson and PJ Walker under center. They saw that was not going to work, signed Flacco off the street and he went 4-1 down the stretch to make the playoffs.
2025 Rodgers is a lot better than 2023 Flacco (who was completely immobile even when he was young). The problem for Rodgers might be that the distractions he causes for a team might not be worth the benefit he would give them in that situation. It's not like Flacco was going on McAfee every week to make headlines or was on someone's short list to be a VP candidate. I think a comparison present-day Rodgers is ~2016 Kaepernik. Both guys were/are clearly better than some of the options that teams will end up going with next year or in 2016/17, both guys put up decent individual stats in their final year, but weren't/aren't good enough to win you enough football games to make putting up with all the distractions worth it.
Thatâs the problem I see with Rodgers. He creates so much angst and drama that when heâs not playing at a top tier level itâs actually counterproductive to have him around.
The other issue is like LeBron James he only wants veteran players around him that want to kiss his ass. You saw that even in Green Bay toward the end.
@Tschmack posted:Thatâs the problem I see with Rodgers. He creates so much angst and drama that when heâs not playing at a top tier level itâs actually counterproductive to have him around.
The other issue is like LeBron James he only wants veteran players around him that want to kiss his ass. You saw that even in Green Bay toward the end.
I'm not a huge Lebron James fan, but other than the trade that he and his agent engineered where the Lakers traded 3 good role players on reasonable contracts (Caldwell-Pope, Harrell, and Kuzma) for a max contract ball-dominant guard who couldn't space the floor (Westbrook), James has conspired to make good personnel moves.
James did what he did to have a better chance to win more than to get veterans to kiss his ass, and it mostly worked out. Rodgers did what he did only to get guys to kiss his ass. LeBron is a much better GM.
LeBron getting Chris Bosh to join him and D-Wade in Miami was a good move. Forcing the Cavs to trade the #1 overall pick (Andrew Wiggins) for Kevin Love was a good move. Conspiring to extract Anthony Davis from the Pelicans was a good move. He supposedly didn't have anything to do with the Doncic trade, but that will work out for him as well.
With the exception of the D. Adams trade, when Rodgers forced moves it was to bring in guys that were washed up or just plain sucked. Hackett as OC. Geriatric Randall Cobb in GB and NY. Allan Lazard at 12 million a year. If Rodgers would have been more like LeBron he'd have been forcing trades for guys like Myles Garrett or Maxx Crosby.
https://www.si.com/nfl/jets-to...-he-wanted-to-return
Via Diana Russini
Perhaps heâll find a third team to play for and get his HC fired mid-season.
If only Gutey and MLF had handled Rodgers the way Aaron Glenn is.
To be fair, Glenn isn't dealing with a QB who is a defending MVP.
Who won them their last SB and many other...games...over the last 16yrs.
@Boris posted:https://www.si.com/nfl/jets-to...-he-wanted-to-return
Via Diana Russini
Not surprised Mr Ego said no to the above. He gets paid a lot to be on that show and removing himself from the show also means less spotlight on him.
Cant have that.
Short of the Steelers, I donât see a starting gig heâd agree to unless he wants to pull a Joe Flacco and just wait until a team loses their starting QB in 2025.
A totally unreasonable demand by the Jets, designed because they didn't want Rodgers back; they knew he wouldn't be willing to give up his rights. Kudos to AR.
The Jets are a loser organization and the new regime is following in those footsteps.
Besides that, both demands are strictly prohibited by the CBA.
@DurangoDoug posted:Besides that, both demands are strictly prohibited by the CBA.
I donât think it matters in this case. The Jets arenât telling him to fulfill the remainder of his contract AND stop doing the Jackass McAfee show. Theyâre telling him to stop doing the show, start showing up for all of the training camp OR find another team to ruin.
Rodgers leadership has always been his achilles heal. He has his little click of buddies but isn't a guy who galvanizes the whole team. I look at LeBron and Brady as leaders who the whole team appeared to generally like and were happy to play for them. They didn't bring in politics, conspiracies, etc. If they had issues, they kept their issues behind closed doors.
It also solidifies the fact that AR is not reconsidering his off field distractions and is unwilling to change them for the better of a team. Can't imagine somebody else signing him before TC unless there is still a fanboy owner out there. Jets called his bluff so he showed his cards.
Rodgers was less a leader and more like the senior in the locker room who was the best player and looked down on everyone else and really just wanted heir adoration and worship. I don't think he was always that way but definitely shifted later in his career.
Just can't imagine any team willing to bring him in knowing that even the Jets thought his distractions outweighed his talent on the field.
I donât think he wanted to play for the Jets next season anyway. All the Jets did here was make it easy for AR to walk away without looking like the bad guy. And I guess it lets Jets fans (and players) know that the organization is done dealing with distractions whether itâs true or not.
Rodgers can still win some games. The Jets also may not want that. They may be âcontendingâ with the Browns next year.
Aaron Glenn is a no-nonsense guy like Mike Tomlin...he has no time for massaging egos. Tomlin has softened a bit over the years (welcoming the the DangerRuss circus to town) but this is AG's first job. He's gonna be the hardass he's always been. No room for and old dog on his squad.
I don't think it's unreasonable for an organization to ask that he remove himself from a side gig and attend all of training camp. And I don't think it's unreasonable that Rodgers says he still wants to do the side gigs. And that gives both of them an easy out.
I do like Glenn putting his foot down (reportedly) on Rodgers. It's been a very, very long time since anyone has done that. He should not be allowed to be bigger than the team. Of course, he doesn't see it that way.
@Chongo posted:Aaron Glenn is a no-nonsense guy like Mike Tomlin...he has no time for massaging egos. Tomlin has softened a bit over the years (welcoming the the DangerRuss circus to town) but this is AG's first job. He's gonna be the hardass he's always been. No room for and old dog on his squad.
Word.
It also sounds like AR was not willing to come to all the OTA's and offseason stuff either. And remember, he decided to take off to Egypt last summer during a mandatory minicamp session and that was considered an "unexcused" absence.
Teams will put up with a lot of shit when you perform at a high level. If this was an MVP version of Rodgers going into 2025, it'd be a very different tune from nearly every NFL team to tolerate the circus that is AR.
Now? At 41, as mobile as a tree, and with a massive ego to massage, Glenn and the Jets are not putting up with that shit.
I have achieved total apathy about Rodgers. So I've got that going for me, which is nice.
Iâve got that about many things.
@Dr._Bob posted:I have achieved total apathy about Rodgers. So I've got that going for me, which is nice.
I don't understand why the team had an issue with Rodgers doing an hour with Macafee. Many players have their own show they do on their day off. It has been going on as long as TV has been around.
Understandable why the team doesn't want to deal with AR's chronic case of diarrhea of the mouth.
That's just brutal. Ooof.
@packerboi posted:Word.
It also sounds like AR was not willing to come to all the OTA's and offseason stuff either. And remember, he decided to take off to Egypt last summer during a mandatory minicamp session and that was considered an "unexcused" absence.
Teams will put up with a lot of shit when you perform at a high level. If this was an MVP version of Rodgers going into 2025, it'd be a very different tune from nearly every NFL team to tolerate the circus that is AR.
Now? At 41, as mobile as a tree, and with a massive ego to massage, Glenn and the Jets are not putting up with that shit.
It's not like Denver when they added Peyton Manning won the SB...Denver was way closer to being a champion than the Jets ever were. That vaunted Jets defense we heard about stunk it up plenty throughout the last two seasons. He was also in his early 30's.
It was just a recipe for disaster from the jump for the Jets. Hope 12 retires...he has nothing left to prove. He's won MVP's and a Super Bowl...more than most guys who've played the position. Go do yoga, and wait for the knock in 5 years.
FWIW, Mark Taucher thinks AR will keep himself in pretty good shape, then await some dreaded QB injury from a winning team and come in on a white horse to save the season for __________ team in '25.
Not exactly a crazy idea. He'd get to skip all the OTA's, training camp, pre season and AR would eat up the media frenzy should he suddenly join the 49ers, Chiefs, Ravens, Lions, etc if that scenario would happen.
Jets won 2 more games in 2023 with Zach Wilson than they won in 2024 with Rodgers. He also got a head coach and GM fired. Not sure I could get past those when looking to sign Rodgers.
@CUPackFan posted:Jets won 2 more games in 2023 with Zach Wilson than they won in 2024 with Rodgers. He also got a head coach and GM fired.
And he will be the only player in the NFL HOF to have accomplished that. AR is just building his resume. He should quit now while he still has a body left. At 40 years old it won't be looked at as "quitting", it will be looked at as "survival". Not everyone can be a "George Blanda".
Building or razing?
@Ghost of Lambeau posted:And he will be the only player in the NFL HOF to have accomplished that. AR is just building his resume. He should quit now while he still has a body left. At 40 years old it won't be looked at as "quitting", it will be looked at as "survival". Not everyone can be a "George Blanda".
Building his resume? He's already a first ballot HOFer...maybe he just wants to win another Super Bowl.
Pikes Peak - a person can "build" it in a negative sort of way. I meant that to be sarcasm - sort of. 
Chongo - or add another $20 mill to his savings account - just for good measure.
@Ghost of Lambeau posted:Not everyone can be a "George Blanda".
Morton Anderson kind of thinks you're being unrealistic.
Both missed a year. Anderson played for 24 years, Blanda for 25 years. Their careers span 25 and 26 years respectively.
I don't know of a longer career than Blanda's. If you know of a longer NFL career please let me know.
@packerboi posted:FWIW, Mark Taucher thinks AR will keep himself in pretty good shape, then await some dreaded QB injury from a winning team and come in on a white horse to save the season for __________ team in '25.
Not exactly a crazy idea. He'd get to skip all the OTA's, training camp, pre season and AR would eat up the media frenzy should he suddenly join the 49ers, Chiefs, Ravens, Lions, etc if that scenario would happen.
The unfortunate part is that let's say this happens. Team XYZ loses its QB in week 8, was on the way to making the playoffs pretty easily, and this is their window. They bring in Rodgers, who takes them to the conference championship game, where they lose a close one but Rodgers plays well. At that point, Rodgers' ego kicks in and he says he wants to play another year, and gee, it'd be great to do it with XYZ again. Then it becomes a nasty mess played out in the media again. I don't know a lot of coaches or GMs who want to take that chance.
Flacco took the Browns to the playoffs in 2023, and he says they never made an offer for 2024. Can you imagine Rodgers ending his career quietly like that? Yeah, me neither.
It wouldn't surprise me too much if no one signs him this year at all. He may be done but doesn't realize it yet.
