I never am happy about giving up on someone who has had some positive moments, but they gave him plenty of chances. This year he didn't deliver on those.
BTW, MM also said he something like he thought BJ Coleman has potential and I don't see BJ anywhere near the team.
I may need to correct myself about the OOB KO. I guess I'm not as familiar with the rules as I should be. But I do know who Matt Birk is! 
It sure looked funky, though. Was the ball not going to roll OOB on it's own?
I still stand by my comment that I don't think he is/was a good decision maker.
I'd also guess that our returner is someone on the roster already. It seems to me that more KO's are touchbacks this year, so not as many opportunities for returns. Punt return is much more critical, IMO, and if it takes Cobb to give us an advantage there, so be it.
This makes me try to remember which other players the Packers have unceremoniously dumped after a terrible performance?
Who else?
Lewis Billups.
Ross didn't touch the ball until it was OOB, and yes he did the right thing by having one foot OOB before touching it thus insuring the flag on CIN - in the event the officials missed seeing the ball out.
Hate to see anyone fired, but he wasn't getting it done.
Didn't have much choice...
-- didn't want to use Cobb after losing Finley - depleted receiving options.
-- didn't want to use Franklin - only healthy RB.
Dream from Heaven
The rule on KOs is the same as it is on fumbles: if the player is OOB when gaining possession the ball is considered OOB as well. I thought the ball remained in the field of play but it didn't matter.
Dream from Heaven
could not have said it better
It was the right move but Ross actually made a great play on stepping out of bounds when fielding the 4th qtr kickoff and had a pretty nice catch and run for a first down earlier. I can't help but think that if McCarthy doesn't run Franklin on the ill-fated 4th down play and the Packers win the game that Ross may still be a Packer.
They did exactly what I told them to do when it happened, except I wanted them to do it right then.
Can I sit next to you at the next game?
I can't help but think that if McCarthy doesn't run Franklin on the ill-fated 4th down play and the Packers win the game that Ross may still be a Packer.
We'll never know, but the team is last in the league in KO returns and the production by Ross simply wasn't there. I didn't like the play call at the time with Franklin, but McGinn said that if the rookie LT makes even an average block he probably gets it.
that play went to the RT side...
Sure did, and Michael Johnson is the one that blew it up.
I still think trusting AR to get a couple inches on a sneak or rolling the dice a bit with a bootleg would have been better calls.
They had three guys jammed into the middle to stop the sneak. You trust EDS to blow them off the ball?
Bahk had 2 bad plays that really contributed to the loss. The missed block on 4th and inches and the missed cut block on 4th and 5 to end the game.
Blame EDS. I saw him in the huddle tying Bahk's shoelaces together before each play.
He's facing a 6'7" DE who wasn't rushing, but was looking to bat down the pass. Hard to blame Bahk for that IMO. I blame McCarthy for not moving Rodgers out of the pocket because both Dunlap and Johnson had batted down balls previously on that drive.
Blizzard returner, Georgia Tech RB audition for Packers
Green Bay - Digging deep into their personnel files, the Green Bay Packers tried out two possible kick returners Tuesday - including one from across the street.
B.J. Hill, a four-year standout with the Green Bay Blizzard of the Indoor Football League, and oft-injured but highly productive running back Orwin Smith of Georgia Tech were in Green Bay Tuesday.
After cutting wide receiver-return specialist Jeremy Ross Monday, the Packers have an opening on their 53-man roster. Moreover, running backs Johnathan Franklin (foot) and James Starks (knee) went down in Cincinnati, and running back Eddie Lacy (concussion) and fullback John Kuhn (hamstring) didn't play.
Listed by the Blizzard as 5 feet 9 inches and 180 pounds, the 27-year-old Hill scored touchdowns on 13 of his 166 returns from 2010-'13. He averaged 20.6 yards.
Hill was named the IFL's top kick returner in 2011 and '13, and was second team in '10. He also was a second-team defensive back in '10.
In his Blizzard career, Hill also caught 40 passes for 513 yards (12.8) and 12 touchdowns, rushed 11 times for 18 yards (1.6) and three TDs, and intercepted 20 passes (three TDs).
Hill has never been signed to an NFL contract.
At Ball State, Hill played tailback in 2005 and '06 before moving to cornerback for the '07 and '08 seasons. He returned 82 punts for a 9.6 average and one TD and 16 kickoffs for a 24.7 mark.
Hill also rushed 149 times for 677 yards (4.5) and five TDs, caught 31 passes for an 8.0 average and intercepted eight passes.
Smith (5-11 1/2, 201) underwent surgery Jan. 22 to repair recurrent shoulder dislocations. He had the operation after carrying eight times for 40 yards in the NFL Players Association's all-star game.
In an interview with the Atlanta Journal-Constitution in April, Smith said he opted to have the surgery (Bankart procedure) after the all-star game to show NFL teams he could function in a pro-style offense.
Because of the shoulder, no NFL team has signed him.
Smith, who played A-back in a spread-option attack for the Yellow Jackets, finished as one of the school's all-time most versatile and productive players. He averaged more yards per rushing attempt (9.3) than any player in Atlantic Coast Conference history with at least 1,000 career rushing yards. The 9.3 would have broken the NCAA record if he had accumulated more rushing attempts.
Playing four seasons, Smith was Tech's primary kickoff returner as a freshman in 2009. Then he started six of 13 games in 2010, 11 of 12 in '11 and 12 of 14 in '12.
For his career, Smith carried 198 times for 1,839 yards (9.3) and 20 TDs and caught 45 passes for 815 (18.1) and two TDs.
He returned 76 kickoffs for a 21.4 average but didn't return a punt.
Smith was measured at Tech pro day in March but was unable to work out. His arms were a long 33 inches.
"I just need a foot in the door," Smith told the Journal-Constitution. "I'll be fine."
The Packers also tried out two other players Tuesday.
Darren Woodard, a defensive back from Texas-El Paso, signed as rookie free agent with St. Louis after the draft and was cut Sept. 1. He did not return kicks.
Chigbo Anunoby, a nose tackle froom Morehouse, was among the final cuts by Indianapolis in 2012 and Washington in '13.
He's facing a 6'7" DE who wasn't rushing, but was looking to bat down the pass. Hard to blame Bahk for that IMO. I blame McCarthy for not moving Rodgers out of the pocket because both Dunlap and Johnson had batted down balls previously on that drive.
Fair analysis.. They, the Benglas, knew what was coming and MM didn't adjust. Still, his job was to cut and he didn't get it done.. I understand the play call by the D made it difficult.
Bak tried to cut Johnson a couple of times and Johnson just side-stepped it
Johnson's used to being cut and knows how to beat it
Bak needs to draw the DE towards him and get into the guy before he cuts him, otherwise, you see what happens
A veteran DE took advantage of a rookie OT, multiple times. He'll learn from it
Why are the Packers trying a DB? Is there something theya re not telling like Burnett is done for the year? Or Bush? Or Hayward? The wakes should be next week sometime.
Blame EDS. I saw him in the huddle tying Bahk's shoelaces together before each play.
That would imply that Big Ern knows how to tie shoes.
This makes me try to remember which other players the Packers have unceremoniously dumped after a terrible performance?
Who else?
Lewis Billups.
Ahmad Carroll is another one, they dumped him after that Monday night disaster in Philadelphia in 2006.
what about josh cribbs? is he washed up that bad...I lost total track of him but read here he's available, and he's another WR - in an emergency
I wonder if TT knows about this Josh Cribbs.
Ham Fists told Ted Cribbs was wound too tight.
I'll predict a promotion from the PS for Johnson, and whoever they sign will be the addition to the PS.
I just don't know that there are any street FA's that would fill the role that Ross had. and if there were, getting the "ready" in 2 weeks seems unlikely. Finding someone who could be a returner and play ST is one thing, but we really need some WR depth.
Bak tried to cut Johnson a couple of times and Johnson just side-stepped it
Johnson's used to being cut and knows how to beat it
Bak needs to draw the DE towards him and get into the guy before he cuts him, otherwise, you see what happens
A veteran DE took advantage of a rookie OT, multiple times. He'll learn from it
I agree with that.
Just shows Ross failed to get the necessary pictures to maintain his roster spot.
I am also shocked that the weather activists aren't protesting the BLIZZARD name. It just seems to discriminate against bad weather. 
Ham Fists told Ted Cribbs was wound too tight.
I see my proctologist is at it again.
thanks Tolzzzzzzzzien
I wonder if Ross making plays for the Lions will haunt the Packers for the next five years.
What would Lionheart® say?
Ross is a coach killer. He had a similarly good game against the Titans last year if I recall and then literally dropped the ball when it matter in the playoffs. He will make the Lions understand why GB let him go.
I also loved the fact that without Ross's 12 points, the mighty Lions offense only managed 8 points against the Eagles D. Even the Packers O with Scott Tolzien managed 13.
Shows they're as much a dhome team as the might Falcones.
Absolutely. To be fair, the conditions of that game were HORRIBLE. The Eagles found a way to be productive though, scoring 34 and rushing for well over 200 yards.
Which dome teams playing away won yesterday?
ALL home teams won yesterday except PIT.
woops, and WSH. That's 13/15.
Coach killer is right. It was obvious that Ross had skills, but he kept making the dumb decisions and the costly turnovers. TT chose more consistency over big-play ability. The Packers handed Ross the job despite a pedestrian preseason, and he fumbled his way out of town.
Maybe getting cut allowed Ross to reassess and refocus, or else maybe Ross will do something incredibly stupid that will cost the Lions a game.
Maybe the loins have better return blocking? Hard to imagine.
