Roster Projection

Great work. Solid analysis

I'm willing to bet you are more right than wrong, sschumer!
The only argument I might give you would be Ringo. It's possible either Adams' injury or Price's PS eligibility factors into that decision. I definitely agree he has an opportunity for the rest of pre-season to show his shi....er, stuff.

I'd like to hear your comments about the defensive backfield; why you picked Brown for PS, and why you picked Goodson to (finally) get cut.
I'm rooting for S Taylor to make it, even to the PS, but he may be the longest of longshots.

Ditto for your WR comments. Do you not see a way for McCaffrey to make it to PS? 

YATITTLE, thanks man!  TIMMY!,  thanks as well and good questions.  I agree on Ringo, but only if he shows a whole lot more than he has and maybe the Packers do put Adams on IR.  That'll be a bummer if they have to do that.  But if they do, then maybe Ringo makes it, Price goes (back) to PS.  I picked CB Brown for PS because Whitt has talked him up a couple of times this off-season, and a Packer beat writer or two has commented how good his play has been.  On Goodson, even before his injury, I just felt he never showed the instincts to play CB.  Considering he's still coming back from a bad injury, don't see any way he makes the team.  WR McCaffrey is interesting.  Seems he's catching everything, has so far outplayed the draft picks.  I think if he shows up well in the pre-season games, he'd be a darkhorse to supplant Janis.

Great effort on the skinny.

I would put Mays ahead of Jones at RB.  Jones is a dynamic athlete and a natural out of the backfield but mays has great burst and great feet for a guy his size.  I don't know why the hot takers haven't compared him to Lacy other than he may not run as physical for his size.

I've heard/read a lot about McCaffrey, he could make #7 if they roster that many.  Lotta PS and TC left.  Clark sounds bound for PS if he keeps showin out.

I haven't done the accounting for final 53 but they could keep Kerridge if you look at the WR+TE+FB+RB group as a total number.  You would have to keep only 6WR's though.  3RB's, 3TE's, 1FB, 7WR or 3RB's, 3TE's, 2FB, 6WR.

Yeah I buy that. I do think Tripp makes it somehow, he seemed to be a core guy on all the ST units. I'm also betting Mays makes it over Jones, but it easily could go the other way as you have it. Great job!

DH13, thanks.  GRAVE DIGGER, coming from you means a lot!  I agree, have read good things about Tripp as a Special Teamer, but tough to see who to cut to make room for him.  And agree Mays/Jones could go either way at this (early) point.  DH13, agree that to keep Kerridge likely means one less WR.  Don't see it, but maybe his ST contribution better than the 7th WR's.  But also factoring in building WR depth now based on Jordy's age, question if we lose Cobb or Adams next year.

Really good work here Hall of Famer. I could go either way on Kerridge and MCCaffrey. I am leaning in the direction of Kerridge finding a way to make the 53. I think you're pretty close to how the roster lands in a few weeks though. 

DH13 posted:

 

I haven't done the accounting for final 53 but they could keep Kerridge if you look at the WR+TE+FB+RB group as a total number.  You would have to keep only 6WR's though.  3RB's, 3TE's, 1FB, 7WR or 3RB's, 3TE's, 2FB, 6WR.  

I thought about that, too, DH, but took the lazy wait out...
Just looking at sschumer's projected cuts at WR and TE, I didn't really see anyone that could fill a FB/ H-back/TE role, not even Kerridge. If he's relatively safe on the PS, I'm good with that.

ChilliJon posted:

Really good work here Hall of Famer.  

I'm diggin' the moniker!
A potential screen name change, sschumer?
At least modify the description to the right of your name. "Packers Fan Hall Of Fame Member". 

HOF'r ?

Timmy! posted:

ChilliJon posted:

Really good work here Hall of Famer.  

I'm diggin' the moniker!
A potential screen name change, sschumer?
At least modify the description to the right of your name. "Packers Fan Hall Of Fame Member". 

Seconded!

Make it so Admins!

You guys really have a great sense of humor!  Just another reason 

ChilliJon posted:

Really good work here Hall of Famer. I could go either way on Kerridge and MCCaffrey. I am leaning in the direction of Kerridge finding a way to make the 53. I think you're pretty close to how the roster lands in a few weeks though. 

It might come down to STs with these backup positions. Kerridge would likely make all the coverage teams, McCaffrey could contribute as a returner. 

I have a hard time with Yancey. I want to like him because of his physical traits, but nothing jumped out from what I saw in camp. It was the same kind of inauspicious start to camp that Davis had last year. Even Dupre had a couple nice plays, Yancey just didn't do much. Not writing him off, it's one of those issues of potential vs. contributing soon. Yancey won't contribute soon, whereas McCaffrey or Kerridge would on STs, but Yancey could contribute more in the long run.

Hard for me to see Gunter making the cut unless he picks it up several notches and soon.

So you're The HOF'R now?

Great take.  I'd be surprised if Evans wasn't around for backup at minimum.  

Kerrigan? Joe Kerridge likely sticks as a core special teamer. He and Ripkowski may also be their jumbo backfield. 

I don't see seven wideouts kept with Bennett, Kendricks, Montgomery and maybe one of the rookie backs. Their "5-wide" could be Jordy, Adams, Cobb, Bennett and Kendricks or a back splitting out with a combo of four. Janis, the rookies and Davis had better be knockouts on special teams because that's where most of those guys will make the team.

Defense is also a tough prediction. If they truly want to run the "Nitro" package as a base, I could maybe see one of the ILBs cut. Randall, Brice and Jones may be competing for a starting spot with Burnett taking whichever spot not claimed by the youngster.

Tripp and Goodson are in the Janis/Davis boat with a much smaller paddle.

HERSCHEL, thanks for that catch on Kerrigan/Kerridge.  Fixed!  And I agree, 7 WRs a lot.  But again, I think that's an area they need to develop now for next year, so may go heavy there.

We better not keep 2 FB's and 3 QB's.   

Thought Pipkins played really well against the Eagles and he's got a shot (4.46 40).

MICHIGANJOE, Michael Rodney agrees with you:  http://packersnotes.com/2017/0...he-tape-gb-vs-phi-2/

Rodney's always too negative for me.

Article at JSO right now about Allison getting ST reps, specifically "Jeff's" job at Gunner (Zook's words).

http://www.packersnews.com/sto...cial-teams/563359001

I think the logjam at WR and elsewhere might be pushing exclusive special teamers towards the door.

I'd guess they keep 7 but Janis doesn't make it, unless he busts his way up the WR depth chart pronto.

Read this in the opening paragraph...

"Evans continues to close the gap on Kentrell Brice, who is currently starting in the Nitro package. The Milwaukee native did a number of positive things on Thursday, but nothing was more eye-opening than his interception. As impressive as the catch was, what was even more impressive was how quickly he got to the ball. It was a play I’m not sure Ha Ha Clinton-Dix would’ve made"

Quietly closed the page. Didn't even read the comment section either. Which really give JS Comments a serious run for funniest reads. 

I think that it all comes down to if Nelson is really retiring at the end of the year - per a rumor.  If that is the case, keeping 7 WRs (including Nelson), and 2 on the PS is not out of the question.  The WR position takes has it's share of injuries besides.  Not only because of the increased opportunities, but also because in the catch process the receiver is at a disadvantage in protecting their bodies from the defender.  IMO good spare parts are a requirement at the position.  The Texans WR group is in shambles right now.  Our Packers had a tough time with injuries at the position in 2015.  So if TT agrees (and he may not), I see the roster being something like this in terms of numbers per position; 3 QBs, 5 FB-RBs, 3 TEs, 7 WRs, 8 OL, 5 DL, 8 LBs, 6 CBs, 5 Ss, 3 ST.  26 on offense & 24 on defense & 3 special team players.  I have details and rationale for it all, but I recognize that what happens at the bottom of a roster may be viewed differently by many of us.  No matter what, we are going to have to let some good players go.  

After the game in Atlanta I think it's clear to TT that more defensive speed is necessary and that very well could be an issue for Gunter. Think that was part of the thinking in letting Hyde walk away so easily.

I agree on the Hyde decision being likely due to speed as he was productive. They didn't even offer him.

A lot to still see before the final cut but WR will be interesting.  If all stay relatively healthy through the preseason, I wonder if any team would offer something in a trade like a 7th?   Maybe not since they know we'll have to cut a few or try to stash them on the P.S.   Don't see us keeping 8 WR's.   

http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/c...d-keep-eight-wrs-139

Yeah WR should be interesting. I think the top 4 of Nelson, Adams, Cobb, Allison are basically locked in. The way he was moving and catching in camp I can't see Allison as anything but a lock. You would expect that they will give at least Yancey time to develop since they spent a 5th on him, even if he shows very little (as they did with Davis last year). So you have Janis, Dupre, Clark, McCaffrey, and Davis fighting over that last spot. Davis is the highest draft pick of the bunch and had that nice PR TD, he could lock up that 6th spot if he stays on a role returning punts/kicks. I would guess Janis will be kept while Allison is on suspension and they will try to sneak Clark and McCaffrey on to the PS. One or two of these guys like Dupre I'm sure they will stash on IR. 

Yancey was out today with a groin injury and health may ultimately  help sort the position out. I've got the big three as locks and Allison and Davis as very good bets and beyond that it's pure guesswork.

So you're saying Yancey before Davis?  I don't think so but I wasn't at camp this year.

Yancey may be one they stash on IR and keep McCaffrey. Yancey seems like a guy who needs a redshirt.

YATittle posted:

I agree on the Hyde decision being likely due to speed as he was productive. They didn't even offer him.

There were 30 million reasons why they didn't sign him

So the Packers claim  Shaneil Jenkins  from waivers on Sunday and release him today. No reason given for his release.  He must have been real lazy in practice or something. 

Jenkins probably ate the playbook for lunch or something.  That isn't what the coaches meant when they told him to internalize the playbook.  

Grave Digger posted:

Yancey may be one they stash on IR and keep McCaffrey. Yancey seems like a guy who needs a redshirt.

Yes - lets not forget about the talent holding bin known as IR.  Maybe Dupre could be stashed there with CCS.  Now if one more could come down with a hang nail or something serious like that, between the roster and PS we could keep them all.  

PACKY - I don't see GB keeping 8 on the roster either.  The article presents more of a case for cutting 4 of them than keeping them.  Who would want a receiver who couldn't run routes?  Huh?  But if the information at the end of the article is correct about Adams & Cobb, and the rumor for Nelson turns out to be true, then the Packers will find ways to cubby hole most of them.  JMO.  

Something to keep in mind regarding stashing guys on the PS. The NFL did away with the "reduce roster to 75 players" rule following the 3rd preasason game. Teams will go from 90 to 53 following their final preseason game. So 1,184 players are going to hit the market at the same time. That might make it easier to hide guys. 

Also, you can now designate two players to return from the IR list. So there are options to hide guys for a bit if needed. 

CHILLIJON - good point.