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Originally posted by Tschmack:
I'll admit, I don't know much about this guy, but TT has a really decent history of finding good DB's in the draft going back to his Seattle days. Perhaps they are even looking at Hayward as a possible safety?


The more I read about him, he sounds like a possible FS candidate. One scout was impressed with 2 Tackles for loss of Trent Richardson vs. Bama.

It is amazing how different opinions can be on a guy. Some scouts call him tough, others say he's a weak tackler. Obviously the Pack is betting on the "tough".
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Originally posted by DH13:
Never said Burnett was any problem. Read again - they must be counting on Burnett "arriving" this year to take #1 safety spot. Peprah and Collins were fine with a decent pass rush. Peprah and Burnett could be too if these rooks provide any rush.


This. You can win a Super Bowl with Peprah play S. I think TT will add a guy but I'm also curious to see what Dr. Jennings can do.
Per Walter Football:
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There weren't many cornerbacks who fit Green Bay's defense in this class. Casey Hayward was one of them. The Packers had to find a cornerback to bolster the secondary because Charles Woodson won't be around much longer. Green Bay moved up for him, jumping up from No. 90 to No. 62. All it cost them, however, was a fifth-round pick. I don't understand why Bill Belichick couldn't get more from Ted Thompson.


Makes a point about the trade up, but I thought we had to trade our 3rd for that pick as well? Anybody else back me up on that?
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Originally posted by Herschel:
He could even end up at FS . TT seems to like taller corners but doesn't mind shorter safeties (Collins, Peprah). I'd guess he'll start at corner though. Either way, sounds like a turnover creator who should fit in well.


Wouldn't count on that. A reporter asked Joe Whitt whether he was a corner or a FS and Whitt looked at him like he was crazy. Reporter asked Capers the same thing and he reaffirmed he'll be playing corner. Possibly some nickel, but they want him for corner.
I like the pick because of his intelligence. This week I watched the San Diego game again on my DVR and was stunned at all the coverage mistakes, particularly from Peprah. He bit on the run, Williams was expecting help over the top and we were toasted regularly. Even Williams made a mistake on one TD, helping on the underneath guy and letting Jackson go past him uncovered for a TD.

I just have a feeling that Hayward will be more assignment sure. Save this thread for once he's rolling as a pro, as I could be wrong. But I think he'll be a worthy addition.
Weird that tackling is his biggest issue b/c he looked good in those hghlights. I know they're only his best plays, but usually when a CB is a poor tackler, it's because he doesn't like tackle. Didn't seem the case to me, as he had no problem going behind the line of scrimmage to take on a RB who likely outweighed him by 20-30 lbs.

Very happy to see they drafted a smart CB with great instincts. Seems to have great ball skills. May never be great on the outside due to a lack of speed, but hopefully he can contribute as a nickel/dime CB this year. Hopefully him and House show they can play, and Shields bounces back giving this team 5 solid CB's.
Ex-Perry star Hayward feeling right at home in Green Bay
macon.com

by By Greg Bates Posted: 6:47pm on May 12, 2012
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Hayward had an extremely successful high school career for the Perry Panthers. He tallied 36 rushing touchdowns and 39 more through the air as the Panthers’ quarterback. Defensively, Hayward recorded 30 tackles as a senior, but more impressively hauled in four interceptions, returning three of those thefts for touchdowns.

Former Perry offensive coordinator Chad Alligood coached Hayward for two seasons and knows the Packers are adding a valuable asset to their roster.

“You know exactly what you’re going to get every day,” Alligood said. “Consistency -- he’s not going to be up and down -- and you’re going to get a competitor.”

Hayward had a strong first practice with the Packers. During the two-hour-long, on-field workout, Hayward got plenty of repetitions at right cornerback on 11-on-11 drills. He also took snaps at left cornerback.

There’s no doubt in Alligood’s mind that Hayward will adjust to the NFL game quickly and have a long, successful career.

“He excelled in high school, he excelled in college. There’s no reason why he doesn’t excel in the NFL -- just because of the type of person he is,” Alligood said. “You will find no better person than Casey Hayward.” continue
You could argue the CMIII trade two ways:
1) TT rated him as a top ten pick, thus trading a late second and 2 thirds was a steal.
2) The draft chart says that the late first round pick was only worth a second and a third, thus TT was ripped off by an additional third round pick.

I prefer the first method, as you can't look at picks in a vacuum when it comes to draft day trades. TT didn't trade 3 picks for 1 pick. He traded 3 picks for CMIII (as the only reason he traded up was b/c CMIII was available).
We're really debating whether or not GB gave up too much for CMIII? The guy is arguably the best defensive player in the NFL, is always healthy and forces opposing offenses to spend a significant amount of time scheming just to block him each week. We're watching a HOF career in the making.

In hindsight, TT could have given up his whole draft (Ala Ricky Williams) and I wouldn't complain about it.

I've said it before, but it's worth repeating. I'm even more impressed with CMIII's attitude. There are plenty of NFL players that would be complaining about their contracts, holding out, etc if they had the same production as this guy. Nope, not CMIII. He continues to show up, outwork everybody, produce on the field and drive on. In today's sporting world, that's pretty damn impressive.

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