I'm wondering what Sean Rhyan's problem is. He cannot get on the field, ever, and then he violates some substance abuse policy. He'd be our back up Guard. if he could get on the field. Another guy who would not allow defenders to get by him, in college. What's up with him?
The curse of the third round
Reading between the lines of some quotes from coaches, I think Rhyan isn't as prepared to play as they think he should be. Who knows what that means, but I take it as he's slacking off somewhere along the line, whether it's weight room work, film study, or being lazy.
Whatever the case, it's a downright shame that a 3rd round OL can't contribute on STs. Ditto for the OL when an opportunity was there.
The PED violation/suspension was beyond stupid. When a player guarantees he WON'T be available for however many games, he is cooking his own goose.
Bakh could be done for the year. After surgery to remove the appendix he will have a weight lifting restriction of like 20 lbs for at least a month. Then more time to get back into football shape. So its likely we will see a lot more of Tom on the OL this tear.
Bakh is likely to be a game-day decision for the rest of his career and Gutey has some tough roster decisions to make next year.
Daktari's contract situation is similar to Rodgers, as far as having a fairly massive dead cap hit. Per Spotrac, he has a $29M cap hit next year, but a dead cap hit of $23M.
Incidentally, his cap hit would be $32M in 2024, but his dead cap hit drops to $11M. Still a significant chunk of money, but much easier to manage.
I'll suppose these numbers can be massaged a bit somehow or another, but the piper has gotta be paid sooner or later.
FWIW, my opinion is if Dak feels like he can still play next year, he's earned that right. He's played well when he could this year; it's just his availability has suffered because of various injury. Or an appendix...
@Timmy! posted:Daktari's contract situation is similar to Rodgers, as far as having a fairly massive dead cap hit. Per Spotrac, he has a $29M cap hit next year, but a dead cap hit of $23M.
Incidentally, his cap hit would be $32M in 2024, but his dead cap hit drops to $11M. Still a significant chunk of money, but much easier to manage.
I'll suppose these numbers can be massaged a bit somehow or another, but the piper has gotta be paid sooner or later.
FWIW, my opinion is if Dak feels like he can still play next year, he's earned that right. He's played well when he could this year; it's just his availability has suffered because of various injury. Or an appendix...
I think you have to look at the 23 million as a sunk cost. Then, you have to determine if it's worth 6 million to have him play for you next year. If it's not, then you move on. You are eating the 23 million either way. Is 6 million too much for a guy that you don't know whether he can play 48 hours before every game?
@mrtundra posted:I'm wondering what Sean Rhyan's problem is. He cannot get on the field, ever, and then he violates some substance abuse policy. He'd be our back up Guard. if he could get on the field. Another guy who would not allow defenders to get by him, in college. What's up with him?
Is it possible Rhyan has Tony Mandarich syndrome. Maybe he was on PEDs in college, then when he got to the NFL and had to deal with the testing he came off of them and sucked? So he started using again and got caught?
Interesting theory ... guy goes from First Team all Pac 10 Left Tackle to end of bench ...something wrong there.
@MichiganPacker posted:I think you have to look at the 23 million as a sunk cost. Then, you have to determine if it's worth 6 million to have him play for you next year. If it's not, then you move on. You are eating the 23 million either way. Is 6 million too much for a guy that you don't know whether he can play 48 hours before every game?
Exactly. I think the answer is yes because you hope the knee improves in the off-season and he is lights out when he does play.
At least his appendix is giving his knee some rest again...
Zach Tom is the best offensive lineman on the Green Bay Packers.
â Daire Carragher (@DaireCarragher) November 8, 2023
That would have sounded ridiculous two months ago.
Despite a down year for whatâs typically a rock-solid Packers O-line, Tom has established himself as one of the NFLâs best right tackles. https://t.co/SkdpNAOylj
Jenkins canât be healthy. Kudos to Tom, but Jenkins was the best interior OL Iâve seen play in GB. Better than Sitton.
No, I wasnât alive in the Lombardi era.
I donât wanna jinx him hahaha, but hot damn is Tom having a day against Hutchinson. He learned from the first matchup and is putting together a helluva game . He just continues to get better and better .
â Bryan Bulaga (@BBulaga) November 23, 2023
Anyone hear Hutchinson's name yesterday? His stats show one tackle and one assist. I don't even recall him being close to Love. The OL was a major key to the game. Zach Tom: what a fourth-round gem.
Glad to see Tom getting snaps.
Getting snaps?
Zach Tom has been the starting RT since week 1.
Well, technically, he's getting snaps. 
@Fandame posted:Anyone hear Hutchinson's name yesterday? His stats show one tackle and one assist. I don't even recall him being close to Love. The OL was a major key to the game. Zach Tom: what a fourth-round gem.
I remembered him flushing Love out of the pocket once early in the game but nothing else stands out.
Gute found a gem.
Walker and Tom added a bit of juice to the line, a touch of nasty that I think will only become more pronounced next year.
Gotta clean up those penalties ð We want perfection!!
You strive for perfection, along the way you will achieve excellence.
@CUPackFan posted:Gute found a gem.
Maybe it wasn't Gutey, but his buddy who he poached from the Ravens for his staff (supposedly a renowned finder of OL talent)? Same applies to Walker.
Milt Hendrickson. Probably not a coincidence they've drafted OL so well since he arrived.
You're welcome.
Looks like Tom will be a keeper on the O-line. But like all rookies who perform well/above expectations, need to be weary of Year 2 regression. Donât want to anoint him too soon, but his first year numbers are pretty phenomenal.
Last year during this time, I did a handful of 3 and 4 round mocks.And it seemed like Zach Tom was ALWAYS available. And anytime I picked him in the third or fourth, I ALWAYS a got a pick grade of a C or D. Didnât know anything about him other than I read he could play all positions on the O-line.
@PackLandVA posted:Looks like Tom will be a keeper on the O-line. But like all rookies who perform well/above expectations, need to be weary of Year 2 regression. Donât want to anoint him too soon, but his first year numbers are pretty phenomenal.
2023 was Tomâs second season.
@ilcuqui posted:2023 was Tomâs second season.
Thank you! I shouldâve known that.
I hope Philly beats KC in the Super Bowl.
Position flexibility is the #1 thing Packers look for in OL...that's why I think Bortolini from Bucky is rated very highly for them...probably more than most teams.
The #Packers reportedly believe Zach Tom's best position is center, that he's the future there.
â Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) April 15, 2024
Does it make sense to move him? And if they do, how does that change their draft plans?
Who could they go after?
That's today on @TheLeapGB https://t.co/vIItKJqZ3l
@Chongo posted:Position flexibility is the #1 thing Packers look for in OL...that's why I think Bortolini from Bucky is rated very highly for them...probably more than most teams.
Packers need a Lucas Patrick 2.0 that can handle all 3 spots on the IOL and Bortolini seems to fit that role
@Satori posted:Packers need a Lucas Patrick 2.0 that can handle all 3 spots on the IOL and Bortolini Graham Barton seems to fit that role
This is who I want in the 1st Round if he's still there. Or maybe even trade up a few spots. Could be Elgton Jenkins 2.0 .