ROUND 4 PICK 109 (f/NO through MIA) - OT DAVID BAKHTIARI (COLORADO)

@FreeFromWhatYouAre posted:

Wouldn't you like to know😏  YES

No, isn't it kinda common knowledge that Wahlers and Tom Fanning handle pretty much all communications for the Packers?  NO IT ISN'T

When I brought up a person name with connections to the Packers and said I worked with him, some years ago, it was ignored on this forum.  I could not prove it - but it WAS (and is) TRUE.  It told me what I probably should not say. 

So since you bring all this up, I, for one would like to know how you know who is sitting off to the side providing information when they are not visible to the public, and what peoples specific roles are within the organization.  Not to mention how you know what and how they think.  Do you work at 1265 Lombardi Ave?

@Ghost of Lambeau posted:

When I brought up a person name with connections to the Packers and said I worked with him, some years ago, it was ignored on this forum.  I could not prove it - but it WAS (and is) TRUE.  It told me what I probably should not say.

So since you bring all this up, I, for one would like to know how you know who is sitting off to the side providing information when they are not visible to the public, and what peoples specific roles are within the organization.  Not to mention how you know what and how they think.  Do you work at 1265 Lombardi Ave?

GOL, who do you know at 1265?

Ghost of Vince? 

@Goalline posted:

GOL, who do you know at 1265?

I know someone who knows someone that works at 1265 also . I can't elaborate either . I talked with Andrew Brandt once and told him he was doing a tremendous job for us a long time ago. I swear. Got his autograph and all.  I gave Tyrone Williams some advice one year about his weak tackling and watched him on TV totally improve the next two years. His last two. Talked to KGB about the way he was sticking his leg way out on his pass rushing moves ,afraid he was going to break his ankle, He never broke it so maybe I did some good there,   I swear !!!!     

That’s cool! I don’t know a single soul connected to the Packers.

@Goalline posted:

That’s cool! I don’t know a single soul connected to the Packers.

WE KNOW. Your sworn to secrecy aren't you?   

@Goalline posted:

That’s cool! I don’t know a single soul connected to the Packers.

I do! All three of my kids are owners (thanks to Mom and Dad)

The person I had indirect ties to was former assistant coach and scout Red (John) Cochran thru his son Russ Cochran with whom I have worked with for the last 25 years (or so).  We are both engineers of different types who work for McDonnell Douglas/Boeing.  Russ showed me (and let me try on) his dad's SB ring - my fingers are not big enough .  He has always showed me pictures of his days with the players in the Lombardi years among other things.  Paul Hornung would always invite Russ to times when he would be honored for something and he would get a picture with him.  We talk a lot about the Packers, the draft, the games, etc.  When I was retired for a year and a half before they wanted me back, we communicated often - actually there was an informal group of us who do that.  I was with him at work when his dad died.  That was a sad time when it happened.   But I mentioned him earlier because the scouts were kicked out of the draft room (including Red), and I thought that might add to why they picked who they did back then.  I would not have known about that to this day without Russ talking to his dad and asking "how is the draft going"?  And then Russ visited me at work and told me about it.  But all that is years ago now.  And I have never mentioned Russ since. 

I hope Bak plays next year as Free points out. We need to protect Love the best we can while he gets his feet wet. Now topic back on track !   

@Ghost of Lambeau posted:

The person I had indirect ties to was former assistant coach and scout Red (John) Cochran thru his son Russ Cochran with whom I have worked with for the last 25 years (or so).  We are both engineers of different types who work for McDonnell Douglas/Boeing.  Russ showed me (and let me try on) his dad's SB ring - my fingers are not big enough .  He has always showed me pictures of his days with the players in the Lombardi years among other things.  Paul Hornung would always invite Russ to times when he would be honored for something and he would get a picture with him.  We talk a lot about the Packers, the draft, the games, etc.  When I was retired for a year and a half before they wanted me back, we communicated often - actually there was an informal group of us who do that.  I was with him at work when his dad died.  That was a sad time when it happened.   But I mentioned him earlier because the scouts were kicked out of the draft room (including Red), and I thought that might add to why they picked who they did back then.  I would not have known about that to this day without Russ talking to his dad and asking "how is the draft going"?  And then Russ visited me at work and told me about it.  But all that is years ago now.  And I have never mentioned Russ since.

Working for the Packers is cool , but the nerd in me thinks being an engineer for McDonnell Douglas/Boeing is even cooler. What kind of engineer are you?

C'mon preseason games!

@The Grinder posted:

I hope Bak plays next year as Free points out. We need to protect Love the best we can while he gets his feet wet. Now topic back on track !   

Hope? Why wouldn't Bakh play this season? He is a lock at LT barring injury. If you mean no injuries when you say "hope", then right on!

The OL should be strong this year. I'd like the starting five to be:

Bakh- LT

Elgton- LG

J-Myers- C

Runyan- RG

Z-Tom- RT

I also like Yosh at RT, but I think Tom is going to win the job in camp. I also think they want to see Zach Tom at C some more. I don't think everyone is fully sold on Myers at C. I think Myers is fine at Center, I wouldn't mess with that.

I wish Steno was back as OL coach. I don't think Luke Butkus has a clue what he is doing. The OL was better when Steno was running the show. Steno isn't a fit for OC. And the OC job in Green Bay is running to get coffee and bagels for LaFleur.

Design Engineering - I know a lot of engineering disciplines work on a design.  Boeing has this engineering category and makes them responsible for the fit, form, and function of the item being created. 

I got a 2 degree separation from Tom in PR.  He's tightlipped.  No give aways from him.

@H5 posted:

He's 1 of 3 players over 30.

Old guy yelling at clouds.

Get off my lawn.

@Goalline posted:

How do you know so much about the individuals within the walls of 1265?

In the same manner some know we had a deal with the Broncos but Murphy said no—aluminum foil hats.

@FreeFromWhatYouAre posted:

Hope? Why wouldn't Bakh play this season? He is a lock at LT barring injury. If you mean no injuries when you say "hope", then right on!

The OL should be strong this year. I'd like the starting five to be:

Bakh- LT

Elgton- LG

J-Myers- C

Runyan- RG

Z-Tom- RT

I also like Yosh at RT, but I think Tom is going to win the job in camp. I also think they want to see Zach Tom at C some more. I don't think everyone is fully sold on Myers at C. I think Myers is fine at Center, I wouldn't mess with that.

I wish Steno was back as OL coach. I don't think Luke Butkus has a clue what he is doing. The OL was better when Steno was running the show. Steno isn't a fit for OC. And the OC job in Green Bay is running to get coffee and bagels for LaFleur.

I first hope he plays this season to be the best we could be at the position. He is another year removed from his ACL and ready to roll. I like Yosh alot also and feel he will get better with playing time. Tom is a  tough SOB that will be better at C than sitting on the bench if Yosh does play.  Rasheed looked the part in pre-season last year and should be a key B.U. Like I said before the draft I didn't think OL was a priority early in this draft. Anxious to see what we have in Caleb Jones this year. That guy excites me but I could be just in love with his size. Read alot of doubt about Runyan but did not really see it myself.

      Steno did do a fine job as OL coach and I did not really see that bad a drop-off with Butkus. But I could be dead wrong.  Or rong as you will see here at times !

@The Grinder posted:

That guy excites me but I could be just in love with his size.

This is a judgement free zone sir.  

The Grinder indeed

@Ghost of Lambeau posted:

Design Engineering - I know a lot of engineering disciplines work on a design.  Boeing has this engineering category and makes them responsible for the fit, form, and function of the item being created.

Very cool.