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@Boris posted:

What if they keep bahk..... Move Wallace to right tackle and move Zach Tom to center?? Versatility is the name of the game boys the best five

Josh Myers got better thanks to Jenkins being healthy, but I wouldn't mind seeing an upgrade at C.

I think of Myers like the Packers thought of Runyan. Runyan was OK but GB needed better.

Tom was one of the best RT's in the game last year. I'd love to see him stay at T and so would his future salary. Centers do not make what a coveted T would make and I am sure Tom is well aware of that.

Find a better C in the 2024 draft.

@Boris posted:

What if they keep bahk..... Move Wallace to right tackle and move Zach Tom to center?? Versatility is the name of the game boys the best five

Very true versatility is key to the OL especially when you have a really good line like the Packers do with guys who can move around.  But,  I just don't know if keeping #69 around hoping and praying he can go each week would work.   I just don't have the confidence in him when you hear Gute say its been tough for him to rehab. 

I say move on from Bahk and draft sign a LT as insurance in case Walker regresses.

@packerboi posted:

Josh Myers got better thanks to Jenkins being healthy, but I wouldn't mind seeing an upgrade at C.

I thought Myers got better as the season went on. I think he has a year left on his rookie deal.  It will be interesting to see how he performs in a contract year. One thing I really appreciate about him is he's always first in if there's a scrum or someone is talking liberties on one of the skill guys. I'm sure his team mates appreciate it as well.

Bakh is welcome to come back but he has to share in the financial risk.  Packers aren't a charity and paying him $50m the last 3 year to not play is enough.  Reduce his salary to $3m with $1m per game played incentives and I'm all for bringing him back.  If he won't agree to that, it's time to move on. 

I'd still like to see an OT drafted on day 2.  Depth is always needed on the o-line. 

best guess is that the Packers release Bak early on to clear all that cap space and then if he passes physical testing in Spring, bring him bak on an incentive-laden deal

However, in order to release him - David has to pass a physical or GB has to agree to an injury settlement with him. This is typically a negotiation between agent and Russ Ball based on how much time he needs to recover

So there's a couple of moving parts here - IF Bak wants to return to GB then he and his agent will make less demands on the injury settlement and agree to a favorable contract structure for 2024.

From Bak's POV, the Packers offer the best opportunity for him to resume his career. From the Packers POV, he offers the best chance at elite LT play for a very low cost.

But it all depends on how his knee responds to activity - the most recent surgery was to fix the fluid-inducing irritation - not anything structural.

@Satori posted:


But it all depends on how his knee responds to activity - the most recent surgery was to fix the fluid-inducing irritation - not anything structural.

Yes.

It seems most fans' reluctance to GB sticking with him for 2024 rests on believing his knee/health is unpredictable or his availability is going to be a big question mark over the course of the season or even week to week.  But we just don't know and considering he is still rehabbing, nobody knows.  Nobody needs to know today.  But they will need to know or at least have confidence in an educated guess by at least TC.  The latest procedure was done to correct the cause of fluid build up, which was the only remaining issue.

If that gets corrected or at least minimized to allow him to resume his career, we have an elite LT on 10's blindside that we didn't have last year, with good depth behind him.  Seems worth the risk to simply wait.

@DH13 posted:
But we just don't know

We don't.
We're not ortho MDs, we haven't examined the patient and wouldn't know what we were looking at even if we did.

( Left knee, right knee, wee-knee ?)

Its a very unique situation - and I have confidence in both parties finding a viable solution going forward. But the money part will have to take place before the physical part just because of the NFL calendar.

Gute needs a big chunk of that cap space for any guys he re-signs or FAs he chases -  so they either need to restructure or release in March and then re-sign him at a later date.

I don’t think it matters if his knee was 100% and not injured. His contract is an albatross and he’s on the wrong side of 30.

Packers always move on two years early instead of two years late. He’s a prime candidate to be cut regardless of his knee condition and his various locker room antics don’t help. He’s no Aaron Jones.

Last edited by vitaflo
@vitaflo posted:

I don’t think it matters if his knee was 100% and not injured. His contract is an albatross and he’s on the wrong side of 30.

Packers always move on two years early instead of two years late. He’s a prime candidate to be cut regardless of his knee condition and his various locker room antics don’t help. He’s no Aaron Jones.

The issue is with cutting an injured player. That’s why I agree with Andy on an injury designation.

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