Agreed. I would have much rather had Brian Hill than Williams though. Hill is pretty good at blitz pickup and very ball secure (though Williams isn't bad either). This is not a pick I prefer.
How easily people forget just how explosive Starks was in late 2010. Rewatch the playoff games.
The issue is those were his "15 minutes", otherwise he's been a solid backup, not a lead guy. My guess is we'll see a committee approach, which I'm not a big fan of.
I think the fact that we saw 'competency' in those playoffs instead of a FB masquerading as a RB clouds ones vision.
Herschel posted:Starks David Tyree'd the 2010 Super Bowl run, for which I'm thankful, but he's never been very good otherwise. His best season was 600 yards and averaged 4ypc under half his seasons. He's been a fine backup, but not a lead runner.
Judged as the 7th round pick he was, he was a huge success.
Judged as someone you expected to be a Pro Bowl RB, he wasn't.
If two of these 3 RBs drafted end up contributing as much as Starks, I'll be happy.
WEAKNESSES
Bulls through running lanes crashing into blockers rather than shifting with the contours. Doesn't have athleticism to create early yardage for himself. Missing a functional jump cut for sudden shift from gap to gap once line of scrimmage muddies. Hit or miss with run lanes he chooses.
Remarkably accurate draft analysis. Reminds me a bit of Brandon Jackson- fine when you get him the ball in space and pretty good in pass pro but not much as a runner.
Smaller, less athletic James Starks
Williams may be the most polished of the rookies in terms of pass pro and catching out of the backfield, but is probably the least talented in terms of running the ball. Those Brandon Jackson/poor man's James Starks comparisons both seem valid as he's got sort of a skill set like Jackson, but runs upright like Starks, but not as well as Starks did when he was healthy.
Interesting factoid from this week's #Packers dope sheet
â Wes Hodkiewicz (@WesHod) November 29, 2017
On Sunday, Jamaal Williams became only the second rookie in team history (RB Travis Williams, also against Pittsburgh on Dec. 17, 1967) to have 65-plus rushing yards and a TD and 65-plus receiving yards and a TD in a game
He's noticeably improved from what I thought was lackluster running earlier.
Sometimes, a player improves with playing time.
#differentthanpractice
Remembering The Road Runner!
Coaches said he was overthinking it.
Yes, these last couple weeks, he's been very impressive. More impressive than Brandon Jackson who I compared him to earlier. I think he's stronger than Jackson to be sure.
His head was probably swimming early on trying to grasp everything. Too much thinking. A little down time and film work perhaps increased his confidence and he seems to be letting it loose a bit more. I like what I see.
Confidence is what I see now. He's making his cuts sharper, looking downfield, setting up his blocks, and running with authority. Earlier he was uncertain about where to go and that made him look weaker and slower than he really is. I like how he runs and how he makes tacklers pay.
New moves every night, new moves every night:
Still not seeing a functional jump cut.
Need more answers like that.
Even Bilicheat ainât that brilliant
You all know what the question was right?
âDo you think Kirk Cousins and the Vikings have turned a corner and will be a threat to the Packers late in the season?â
I'd say it was the exact right answer.
Developed into a much better player than I had anticipated. Jones is much more dynamic, but Williams does everything pretty well and is an excellent complement.
He runs with ill intentions.
It's pretty amazing what an offense can do with the run element supposedly relegated to the NFL dust bin much like the drop kick. There are no LeVeon Kirklands in this league anymore.
DH13 posted:He runs with ill intentions.
He and Jones are the perfect example of Thunder and Lightning.
He's the new Edgar Bennett
Man, if he's gets his wish he's gonna be sorry!
Also someone should let him know Wisconsin became a state in 1848.
so there wasn't weather in this area until it became a state? 
Doubt you will find much recorded weather history for Wisconsin or that territory prior to 1900 much less 1760!
His mutha was a mudder.
Whatâs funny is that I was born and lived in this state (WI) for most of my life - sorry MN and CA- and I didnât know the record low was -55 nor have I heard of a place called Corduroy. Must be well up nort. Like Lake Erie up nort. Perhaps Terrace Bay?
Geography and history is overrated
Lake Erie up nort'?
Couderay is not too far from Hayward. It is also well-known for being where Al Capone had his northern fortress. My old man, when he was a kid, used to sell Al's brother Ralph (who hung out in Mercer most of the time) chicken eggs.
Back on topic, Jamaal says he'll be ready to go come playoff time. He's a perfect complement to Jones. Would love to see more two back sets with the two of them.
I too love the sets with BOTH back there. Seems to me that's been productive.
Hungry5 posted:Lake Erie up nort'?
Currently Lake Erie is dumping Lake Effect on the Southern Tier of NY. Geography is for conspiracy theorists. 
Averaged 4.3 per carry and tied for the team lead in receiving TDs with Adams. Williams always seemed to step up in the games in which Jones was struggling a bit.
Packiderm posted:Hungry5 posted:Lake Erie up nort'?
Currently Lake Erie is dumping Lake Effect on the Southern Tier of NY. Geography is for conspiracy theorists.
Where abouts??