I just hope they don't feel compelled to take Lacy in R1. I'd rather they roll the dice and see if they can get Ball in R2. Right now, there are bigger needs than RB in R1 IMO...S, OL, ILB...
well that was fun. now watch the agent play the same game and get Jennings signed with the Vikings. Good luck with that Greg.
quote:Originally posted by Henry:
Finley just breathed a sigh of relief.
Not so fast. They might still re-sign Jennings.
I bet the amount Atlanta gave him will end up being within a couple million of what the Packers were willing to give him. If that ends up being the case, he's either not serious about wanting to win it all, or seriously stupid for thinking a junk franchise like the Atlanta Falcons will ever win a Super Bowl. Matt Ryan is just pathetic in the playoffs. The 49ers were practically begging to be beaten in the 4th quarter of the NFCCG, and Ryan handed them the game on a silver platter.
damn, I was excited at the prospect of S-JAX
curious if TT was interested at all or it was all agent bs
curious if TT was interested at all or it was all agent bs
Ok, so now Wisconsin Badger Montee Ball would look real nice in Packer Green. 
quote:Originally posted by CAPackfan:
Have to wonder if his agent was trying to use GB to get ATL to pay more
No. The agent used the media to exaggerate the Packers interest in order to get the Falcons to pay more. And even the publications that routinely cover Green Bay swallowed it whole. It just isn't in TT's DNA. Jackson & Jennings?
And Finley isn't going anywhere whether Jennings signs or not. That shipped sailed when the price of WR's plummeted.
quote:Originally posted by Pack-Man:
I bet the amount Atlanta gave him will end up being within a couple million of what the Packers were willing to give him. If that ends up being the case, he's either not serious about wanting to win it all, or seriously stupid for thinking a junk franchise like the Atlanta Falcons will ever win a Super Bowl. Matt Ryan is just pathetic in the playoffs. The 49ers were practically begging to be beaten in the 4th quarter of the NFCCG, and Ryan handed them the game on a silver platter.
True Dat!
Parker (Agent) used the B$ story about Packers to try to drive up price for S-Jax.
He'll probably do the same with the Vikings. Let's see what happens tonight with this "dinner" Jennings is having with the Vikings
quote:Originally posted by Pack-Man:
I bet the amount Atlanta gave him will end up being within a couple million of what the Packers were willing to give him. If that ends up being the case, he's either not serious about wanting to win it all, or seriously stupid for thinking a junk franchise like the Atlanta Falcons will ever win a Super Bowl. Matt Ryan is just pathetic in the playoffs. The 49ers were practically begging to be beaten in the 4th quarter of the NFCCG, and Ryan handed them the game on a silver platter.
I get your point, but let's remember that the Falcons came a lot closer to the Super Bowl than the Packers last season. They also played the mighty 49ers a heck of a lot tougher.
Oh well. It was fun to talk about.
HARRIS IS GONNA BE A STUD!!
HARRIS IS GONNA BE A STUD!!
Dome team to Dome team.
Having an O-line not coached by Campen must have factored in also
Harris will never be a featured back, Starks will always be the David Martin of RBs (I know, he had the great run in the playoffs for the Super Bowl year) and Green will always be a backfield dancer. Oh, and Cedric Benson will never contribute anything (I actually hope they don't bring him back). Right now, my expectation for this team's rushing attack is for it to be more or less the same as it was in 2012. Barring some gems in the draft or massive improvements on the OL, I don't see how you can expect anything different. Right now, I'm depressed with visions of another 40+ sack season for Rodgers and 3rd and inches deep balls in my head, but I'll wait until after the draft before I really make any judgements.
quote:Originally posted by Goldie:
Ok, so now Wisconsin Badger Montee Ball would look real nice in Packer Green.
Lacy would look better and some mocks have us taking him in the second round if he's still there.Walter Round 2
As in all free agent signing wait until the salary numbers come out before deciding if Atlanta was smart or not.
quote:Originally posted by Pack-Man:
3rd and inches deep balls
Lacy scares me. The last two bell-cow RB from Bama have not really wowed anyone.
Looks like its 3yrs/$12 million, $4 million guaranteed
quote:Originally posted by PackFoo:
Lacy scares me. The last two bell-cow RB from Bama have not really wowed anyone.
i'll give trent the benefit of the doubt. hard to run when there's 9 in the box. it was all rookies that lead them in rushing, passing and receiving.
quote:Originally posted by CAPackfan:
Looks like its 3yrs/$12 million, $4 million guaranteed
That is bottom of the barrel cheap for a solid RB. Maybe SJax felt he had a better shot of a championship with ATL. Can't imagine at that price TT would have balked.
Then again, maybe he figures he can get Ced again for $825k and there's not much drop off.
TT likes his draft picks.
quote:Originally posted by Henry:
TT likes his draft picks.
and his cap room cause any money not spent he gets as a bonus!
spend the money on Steve
spend the money on AR
spend the money on Steve
spend the money on AR
hmmmmmm
spend the money on AR
spend the money on Steve
spend the money on AR
hmmmmmm
quote:Originally posted by PackFoo:quote:Originally posted by CAPackfan:
Looks like its 3yrs/$12 million, $4 million guaranteed
That is bottom of the barrel cheap for a solid RB. Maybe SJax felt he had a better shot of a championship with ATL. Can't imagine at that price TT would have balked.
Then again, maybe he figures he can get Ced again for $825k and there's not much drop off.
Really? Seems steep to me for a 30yo RB.
Silverstein on what never was
The Rawling's thing is an interesting point. When you scanned SJ's twitter, he went all over the country making appearances. One of those things we fans don't always realize can be factors.
quote:
Steven Jackson to the Green Bay Packers never passed the smell test.
There was a Sports Illustrated video where Peter King tells Jackson he would be a perfect fit in Green Bay and that "you have to go to Green Bay." The look on Jackson's face kind of says it all even though he says, "It makes a lot of sense."
In the end, he signed with the Atlanta Falcons for what the Atlanta Journal Constitution said was a three-year, $12 million deal with $4 million of guaranteed money.
First reported by ESPN's Adam Schefter, Jackson had talks with the Packers, but the perception of some people close to the situation was that Jackson's agent, Eugene Parker, was trying to leverage the Falcons with an offer from the Packers.
The Falcons slow-played Jackson the same way the Packers did and in the end, Jackson chose Atlanta. Talk about making sense.
Jackson is a top spokesperson for Rawlings and he makes many appearances. Direct flights from Green Bay are harder to get.
More importantly, if Jackson came to Green Bay there was no guarantee he'd be used that much. The Packers are a passing offense first, second and third. Jackson would have to be happy with being a second or third option in the offense.
In Atlanta, he'll be taking over for Michael Turner, a similiar power-style running back who has had great success in the Falcons' zone system. Jackson has played all his home games in the NFL indoors and he'll continue to do that in Atlanta.
The Packers may have made an effort to sign Jackson late in the process, but early on they were not offering a lot of money. It probably isn't that GM Ted Thompson is that certain DuJuan Harris, Alex Green and James Starks will be the answer, but he has a chance to pick up another prospect in this draft, and he can use a high pick if he wants
The Rawling's thing is an interesting point. When you scanned SJ's twitter, he went all over the country making appearances. One of those things we fans don't always realize can be factors.
i'm happy and relieved we didn't sign Jackson. I hope we don't resign Cedric Benson either.
i hope TT lights a fire under the ass of the offensive line so they can open holes no matter who is carrying the rock.
i hope TT lights a fire under the ass of the offensive line so they can open holes no matter who is carrying the rock.
While the price tag on Jackson was higher than what I wanted the Packers to spend, let's not fool ourselves by saying there's not much of a difference between him and Benson. Cedric Benson was the least awful crappy RB in a group of very crappy RBs. He was the guy who was usually able to fall forward for a yard in the situations where the other guys usually lost one, nothing more. He and James Starks aren't the answer, and Ted would be foolish to just hope that Alex Green or DuJuan Harris might be the answer. He's probably going to have to take a chance on someone in the first three rounds of the draft, and they need to figure out just what it is they have to do in order to make the OL stop sucking so hard every year. They're just a joke right now. They give up 50+ sacks on the best QB the league, and they can't run block worth a damn. Pitiful.quote:Originally posted by PackFoo:quote:Originally posted by CAPackfan:
Looks like its 3yrs/$12 million, $4 million guaranteed
That is bottom of the barrel cheap for a solid RB. Maybe SJax felt he had a better shot of a championship with ATL. Can't imagine at that price TT would have balked.
Then again, maybe he figures he can get Ced again for $825k and there's not much drop off.
quote:Originally posted by bubbleboy789:
i'm happy and relieved we didn't sign Jackson. I hope we don't resign Cedric Benson either.
i hope TT lights a fire under the ass of the offensive line so they can open holes no matter who is carrying the rock.
Not sure TT would interfere like that.
quote:Originally posted by bubbleboy789:
i'm happy and relieved we didn't sign Jackson. I hope we don't resign Cedric Benson either.
i hope TT lights a fire under the ass of the offensive line so they can open holes no matter who is carrying the rock.
Bingo.....
Getting Jackson had the potential to cover up some of the issues with the OL. So in a way, maybe not getting him has the potential to do something good too. Maybe this will force the Mike and that idiot James Campen to get the offensive line straightened out. They have talent at the guard spots, and Bulaga is clearly a very good player when healthy, so they're not as far off from getting it straightened out as the abysmal results on the field can make it seem. Bulaga making a successful flip over to the left side and a dynamite center in the draft could potentially do more for this team than Jackson would have. If the choice comes down to an RB prospect or a dynamite center in the first two rounds of the draft for the Packers, it should be an easy decision to make. You go with the center.
He'll definitely get more touches in Atlanta than he'd ever get in Green Bay.
quote:I hope we don't resign Cedric Benson either.
Spot on
Why? Benson will sign for a vet minimun with big incentives. If he doesn't make it out of camp it costs you......nothing, well except for training camp pay. Packers always need training camp bodies anyway. Gives Clay somebody to chase down.
Your right on "getting more touches" in Atlanta. It didn't take very long for the Falcons to run Turner into the ground.
I don't get why everybody is so against resigning Benson. He's a cheap, proven back. Where's the downside? Maybe Harris will end up being the guy. He looked good when he had the chance to play last year....so did Starks two years ago. I had high hopes for Starks, but he never lived up to the potential, partly because he can't stay on the field.
Benson was big time in college and he's had three 1000+ yard seasons in the NFL. Maybe he's past his prime, but it's just as likely that he has a few more good seasons in him.
TT has a knack for picking under the radar receivers who turn out to be better than expected. Running backs?...not so much. I think it would be smart to bring in a proven guy to compete.
Benson was big time in college and he's had three 1000+ yard seasons in the NFL. Maybe he's past his prime, but it's just as likely that he has a few more good seasons in him.
TT has a knack for picking under the radar receivers who turn out to be better than expected. Running backs?...not so much. I think it would be smart to bring in a proven guy to compete.
quote:Originally posted by ammo:
Why? Benson will sign for a vet minimun with big incentives. If he doesn't make it out of camp it costs you......nothing, well except for training camp pay. Packers always need training camp bodies anyway. Gives Clay somebody to chase down.
Low risk, high reward. Absolutely.
Benson is actually low risk/low reward. He's always been pedestrian and he hasn't gotten any better, it's just Green Bay's RBs have been so bad he looked half-way decent last year.