The 2007 Draft

HerschelMember

Guys who should be in their prime right now and what did that draft give the Packers?
1. Justin Harrell - Bustola
2. Brandon Jackson - Makes pedestian seem exciting.
3a. James Jones - Good, solid receiver, nothing to complain about at all.
3b. Aaron Rouse - Stiffer than Fedya watching a Bea Arthur marathon
4. Allen Barbre - He's a Barbre girl living in a Barbre world.
5. David Clowney - Bozo the receiver
6a. Korey Hall - Blocked like a linebacker, tackled like a Fullback
6b. Desmond Bishop - Solid player, no complaints here.
6c. Mason Crobsy - Whiffffffffff.
7a. Deshawn Wynn - More more dynamic than Jckson, and much less reliable.
7b. Clark Harris - Who?

11 picks and two decent players, that's it. What a pile of crap, especially from a draft whse first round netted Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, LaRon Landry, Adrian Peterson, Patrick Willis, Marshawn Lynch, Darelle Revis, Lawrence Timmons, Anthony Spencer, Joe Staley and Greg Olsen, guys at or near the top at their position.

Well, except for LaMarr Woodley, Marshall Yanda, Jermon Bushrod, Dashon Goldson, Antwan Barnes, Brent Celek and Dwayne Bowe were about the only other good players to come out of that draft.

What a pile of horse crap that draft was. A few stars may make it seem like a good year but blech! San Fran was the clear "winner" getting three of 21 good players.

IN OTHER WORDS, EVEN IN THEIR BAD DRAFT THE PACKERS GOT AS MUCH OR MORE OUT OF IT THAN ALMOST EVERYONE.

2/14/1310:34 AM

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chickenboyTic Toc

I give TT a pass for Clowney. That was before we were aware of the smooth skin issue.

2/14/1310:36 AM

TdogProspective Member

Forward!

2/14/1310:48 AM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

quote:

1. Justin Harrell - Bustola

@Packerpedia
Former first round pick (16th overall in 2007) Justin Harrell turns 29 today.

I wonder how many players overall are still in the league from the 2007 draft?

2/14/1311:00 AM

HerschelMember

I missed Paul Solaiai or whatever, Ben Grubbs and Ryan Harris at first glance but not a good year.
http://www.pro-football-refere...years/2007/draft.htm

This year's Super Bowl contestants had the most contributors from that draft.

2/14/1311:25 AM

SlobknockerMember

quote:
11 picks and two decent players, that's it. What a pile of crap, especially from a draft whse first round netted Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, LaRon Landry, Adrian Peterson, Patrick Willis, Marshawn Lynch, Darelle Revis, Lawrence Timmons, Anthony Spencer, Joe Staley and Greg Olsen, guys at or near the top at their position.

The Packers drafted 16th that year, that means as far as that list goes we only had a shot at Anthony Spencer, Joe Staley and Greg Olsen.

2/14/1311:29 AM

BorisPerson Man Camera Dildo Shop - NFLFU®

Average lifespan of an NFL career is 5 years.

Not a good draft for sure but scored a couple players in Jones & Bishop & even Crosby (who WAS good before last year) Clowney was still in the league last year so say what you want but the guy is still sticking around.

I remember wanting Leon Hall or Aaron Ross in that first round instead of Bu$tin (my first year at RCMH)

ROTTTTTT!

2/14/1311:35 AM

ChilliJonI hate the Vikings!

49ers have one player drafted in 2008 that's currently on the team (7th rounder Larry Grant, who will be leaving as a FA). Only one 2008 draft pick ever started a game, Josh Morgan. He's in Washington now. All their remaining picks in 2008 never started a single game.

Drafts can be hit and miss.

2/14/1311:43 AM

GBFanForLifeLarge Member

Why the hell do they keep winning. They will never get good draft picks doing it that way.

2/14/1312:34 PM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

quote:
Originally posted by Boris:
Average lifespan of an NFL career is 5 years.

Yep. Talking about draft successes 6 years after the draft is like handing out draft grades the first week of May each year.

Brandon Jackson, Aaron Rouse, Allen Barbre, David Clowney, & Korey Hall all made it out of TC onto a roster and played more than a season in the NFL.

2/14/1312:35 PM

HerschelMember

Average career span is a loaded stat too though. Guys who last are generally in their prime from years 3-8, give or take, depending on position. So guys from '07, '08,'09 and '10 should be a strong core of teams right now.

2/14/131:53 PM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

quote:
Originally posted by Herschel:
Average career span is a loaded stat too though. Guys who last are generally in their prime from years 3-8, give or take, depending on position. So guys from '07, '08,'09 and '10 should be a strong core of teams right now.

You already listed the '07 guys...

'08
Jordy Nelson
Brian Brohm
Patrick Lee
Jermichael Finley
Jeremy Thompson
Josh Sitton
Breno Giacomini
Matt Flynn
Brett Swain

'09
BJ Raji
Clay Matthews
TJ Lang
Quinn Johnson
Jamon Meredith
Jarius Wynn
Brandon Underwood
Brad Jones

'10
Bryan Bulaga
Mike Neal
Morgan Burnett
Andrew Quarless jury out
Marshall Newhouse
James Starks prolly gone
CJ Wilson

I see your point.

2/14/133:10 PM

HerschelMember

Yep, even the guys who aren't stars are important to the team as they have enough experience to fill roles. Ex: CJ Wilson is kind of one-dimensional but he's solid against the run and fills an important spot in the base defense.

I do find it odd that outside of a few stars there was a year that added very little to the league in terms of core talent.

2/14/133:32 PM

Blair KielGOOD OL' FAKE BLAIR KIEL - My Hood? nice Henry. Fuck You!

I just looked at the 1956 draft------not one of 'em is still on the roster.

Busts!

# Year Round Overall Name Position School
1. 1956 1 8 Jack Losch HB Miami (Fla.)
2. 1956 2 20 Forrest Gregg T Southern Methodist
3. 1956 4 44 Cecil Morris G Oklahoma
4. 1956 5 56 Bob Skoronski T Indiana
5. 1956 6 68 Bob Burris HB Oklahoma
6. 1956 7 80 Hank Gremminger E Baylor
7. 1956 8 92 Russ Dennis E Maryland
8. 1956 9 104 Gordon Duvall FB Southern California
9. 1956 10 116 Bob Laugherty FB Maryland
10. 1956 11 128 Mike Judock C Miami (Fla.)
11. 1956 12 140 Max Burnett HB Arizona
12. 1956 13 152 James Mense C Notre Dame
13. 1956 14 164 Charlie Thomas FB Wisconsin
14. 1956 15 176 Buddy Alliston G Mississippi
15. 1956 16 188 Curtis Lynch T Alabama
16. 1956 17 200 Bart Starr QB Alabama
17. 1956 18 212 Stan Intihar E Cornell
18. 1956 19 224 Ken Vakey E Texas Tech
19. 1956 20 236 Clyde Letbetter G Baylor
20. 1956 21 248 Hal O'Brien FB Southern Methodist
21. 1956 22 260 John Popson HB Furman
22. 1956 23 272 Jesse Birchfield G Duke
23. 1956 24 284 Don Wilson C Rice
24. 1956 25 296 Frank Koeneke E Minnesota
25. 1956 26 308 Dick Goehe T Mississippi
26. 1956 27 320 Dick Kolian E Wisconsin
27. 1956 28 332 Bob Lance QB Florida
28. 1956 29 344 Vester Newcomb C Southwest J.C.
29. 1956 30 355 Rod Hermes QB Beloit

2/14/136:34 PM

ChilliJonI hate the Vikings!

Bart Starr was the 200th pick in the 1956 NFL draft.

That is the definition of falling into a GM's lap. End of discussion.

2/14/136:48 PM

Rusty42 inch pythons brother!

2 Fullbacks were taken over him. That is depressing.

2/14/137:56 PM

ammoCheese Master

Two Hall of famers in one draft and another guy who was only offensive captain for many seasons. And Gremminger was pretty good too. Jack Vanisi was the Ron Wolf and TT of the 1950's.

2/14/139:15 PM

CoachAt the head of the table

quote:
Originally posted by Boris:
Average lifespan of an NFL career is 5 years.

Not a good draft for sure but scored a couple players in Jones & Bishop & even Crosby (who WAS good before last year)

Disagree. 20/20 hindsight, 2007 was not a great draft but it was a solid one.

We were picking 16th, and we had five of those drafted players making significant contributions to a Super Bowl Championship team.

Crosby has had two 140+ point seasons, and he's finished 4th or better in points at least three times in his six seasons. Last year did indeed damage his career numbers, and since those struggles are still fresh in people's minds it is understandable that the perception of his overall career productivity has been eroded as well.

And the last time I saw the figures, TT also led the league among GMs in regards to % of drafted players still being in the league.

Not perfect by any means (nobody is), but not too shabby either.

2/15/1312:13 AM

michiganjoeMember

quote:
Originally posted by Herschel:
6c. Mason Crobsy - Whiffffffffff.

One off year doesn't make him a bad pick and that's premature. My guess is he bounces back.

The Brandon Jackson pick appeared to be a reach when he made it and I never cared for it.

2/15/137:34 AM

YATittleMember

Look at the list put together by Hungry5 of '08, '09 and '10. Even some of those he didn't boldface are playing elsewhere in the league.

'07 wasn't TT's best year, but his work since then has kept us in the Super Bowl hunt. Hope for the same this year...

2/15/137:40 AM

TschmackMember

I guess I don't understand why we are focusing on one draft. Have the Packers drafted poorly in TTs tenure? Have the Packers not been successful since he took over?

Yes, Bustin was a miss. I get that. But look at the 2007 draft in general. There were a lot of misses. Guys like Joe Thomas and Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson were selected early, but so were guys like Jamarcus Russell, Gaines Adams, Jamaal Anderson, Etc.

2/15/138:03 AM

fightphoe93Member

quote:
Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
I just looked at the 1956 draft------not one of 'em is still on the roster.

Busts!

# Year Round Overall Name Position School
25. 1956 26 308 Dick Goehe T Mississippi
26. 1956 27 320 Dick Kolian E Wisconsin
27. 1956 28 332 Bob Lance QB Florida
28. 1956 29 344 Vester Newcomb C Southwest J.C.
29. 1956 30 355 Rod Hermes QB Beloit

I think that pick of Dick Goehe was a reach. They could have traded down for more picks and I would have bet my house he would have been available in the 27th round.

2/15/138:37 AM

HerschelMember

quote:
Originally posted by Tschmack:
I guess I don't understand why we are focusing on one draft. Have the Packers drafted poorly in TTs tenure? Have the Packers not been successful since he took over?

Because while it was a bad Packers draft, sure, it was a terrible draft overall. That draft added a few stars that make it "shiny" but in reality it offereed very little quality or depth to the league.

One reason San Fran made teh Super Bowl is they were able to get three very good players now in their prime from a draft where many teams got nothing of substance.

2/15/139:18 AM

IowacheeseKeen Insight

This would never happen on shermans watch.

If only we could "make" a superbowl too

2/15/1310:06 AM

Shoeless JoeMember

2/15/1310:12 AM

chickenboyTic Toc

San Fran beat the Pack because they had a lot of high draft picks overall I've been told. How can you compete with that? TT is so lucky Sherman had that bad year in 2005 to get some picks for that Super Bowl run.

2/15/1310:20 AM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

quote:
Originally posted by Hungry5:
I see your point.

This was sarcasm...

2/15/1310:21 AM

El-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

I see your point

2/15/1310:22 AM

El-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

quote:
Originally posted by Lap-Ka-Dog:
I see your point

that's what she said

2/15/1310:22 AM

HerschelMember

quote:
Originally posted by YATittle:
Look at the list put together by Hungry5 of '08, '09 and '10. Even some of those he didn't boldface are playing elsewhere in the league.

'07 wasn't TT's best year, but his work since then has kept us in the Super Bowl hunt. Hope for the same this year...

The point is that '07 wasn't a good year overall for ANYONE (except San Fran, I suppose) even though there are a few big names from it. Look at Green Bay, Seattle, San Fran and Baltimore, four of the best teams this year. They're the teams that have more than one good, long-term player out of that mess (and Lynch didn't start out in Seattle).

2/15/1311:04 AM

TschmackMember

So now SF is the gold standard? Why? They lost the NFC championship last year and lost the Superbowl this year.

What about Atlanta? What team has won more regular season games than them in the NFC the last 3 years?

The Packers won the whole damn thing 2 years ago and all of a sudden they are a second rate franchise that doesn't know how to draft or develop players?

Where's Jim Druckenmiller when you need him?

2/16/138:29 AM

chickenboyTic Toc

It seems fairly obvious (to me at least) that this thread is in reference to the 2007 draft and that it appears San Francisco did OK compared to others in a weak draft. I will also ask how you came to the conclusion that Green Bay is second rate? Is this another X4 example of pointing out something positive on another team means you are ripping on our favorite team?

Also not sure how you extract that San Fran is now the gold standard on how to run a franchise by the topic of this thread. Although they seem to have built a pretty nice club out there.

2/16/138:33 AM

TschmackMember

Rong again

The thread is all about suggesting that SF did well in one draft (and that is why they are so good) and implies the Packers did not and it's the same bubble gum argument for those that want to find fault with TT.

One or two years of anything does not make a trend.

I'll gladly take TT and the Packers long term over any other team in the NFC. Just because they don't hit on 100% of their draft picks or win a Superbowl every year doesn't make them a middle of the road team either.

2/16/1310:21 AM

HerschelMember

Jesus H Friggin' Christ, T, Chickenboy is right. It was a crappy draft where even the good drafting teams only got a couple of good players out of it who are now in their prime and even in the Packers bad draft they still got almost as much as anyone out of it.

I guess if I post in anything but inverted pyramid some are going to think it's somehow a rip on someone. Sorry for acknowledging another team actually did something right once while also pointing out that the Packers did about as well as anyone when you look at the big picture. Lets just disregard Staley, Willis and Goldson even being drafted because it doesn't paint TT as the lord of all.

2/16/1310:56 AM

Shoeless JoeMember

2/16/1310:59 AM

IowacheeseKeen Insight

Besides with all that great talent the 9ers "made" the Superbowl.

Still wish we could do that some time.

07 is a draft that will live as an epic failure....it really could have pushed us over the top of Mt. Hershey

2/16/1311:45 AM

El-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

looks like Hersh is turning into teh next viking fan like

2/16/1312:32 PM

TschmackMember

Wow that Calvin Johnson pick really put Deetoilet over the top, eh? Joe Thomas also made the Browns a contenda

Again, one draft does not make a team great. SF has made some nice selections but it's been over a period of time.

Maybe to solve this once and for all let's bring the Sherminator back