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@H5 posted:

• When a shooter launches or leans into a defender at an abnormal angle.⁰

• When a shooter kicks his leg (up or to the side) at an abnormal angle.⁰

• When an offensive player abruptly veers off his path into a defender.

These two to me are the most important. here are the FT attempt leaders in 2020-21:

@wojespn: The Lakers are near a deal to acquire Washington's Russell Westbrook for Kyle Kuzma, Montrezl Harrell, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and a 2021 first-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

Oh man, I cannot see James and Westbrook co-existing on the same team

James and Russ are ball dominant guys.  Good luck Lakers

Bucks trade out of the 31st spot for two later second-rounders this year and two future second-rounders. Probably a good move. Second-round picks are just crapshoots anyways. Might as well get 4 shots at it over the next few years than one.

@ilcuqui posted:

@wojespn: The Lakers are near a deal to acquire Washington's Russell Westbrook for Kyle Kuzma, Montrezl Harrell, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and a 2021 first-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

Oh man, I cannot see James and Westbrook co-existing on the same team

Here’s how it will actually work- Westbrook plays harder, faster, and attacks more. James doesn’t do that unless he’s in the finals. Meanwhile AD is healthy, so James gets to coast more during the season.

1 big ten player in the first round? 

Side note- this is more like prom than a draft

Chris Paul is leaving Phoenix. $500.00 says he ends up with the Lakers.😆

https://sports.yahoo.com/seemi...chris-180701762.html

There's this....^^^

Then there is this 👇🏼👇🏼
https://sports.yahoo.com/repor...agent-214247092.html

Yeah, that’s not a surprise for him to decline the option. He wants the longer money. Only way he gets to the Lakers now is a sign/trade…

Chris Paul is rumored to want a 3 year deal.  Personally, as good as he’s been that’s a risky proposition as he is not getting any younger and it’s all guaranteed money at this point.

Kahwi Leonhard opting out is a bit more of a surprise.  Does he stay with the Clippers or does he bolt for a team like Miami?   Given his ACL injury it would be a lot like KD in 2021/2022 but assuming he recovers from that he will make an impact where ever he goes.

The latest scuttlebutt is Dame going to the Knicks or Sixers.  Kyle Lowry going to Miami perhaps.  

Saw some info on Lou Williams to the Bucks.  Possibility of Portis Jr and PJ Tucker also returning to Milwaukee.

Lowry to the Heat looks like a done deal.

This article laughs at the "tampering" involved and comes out and states that it was the Heat that complained about the Bucks signing Bogdanovic last year that set up the 2nd round draft pick penalty. It's all water under the bridge now that the Bucks won a title, but the Bucks should definitely complain to the league office about the Heat tampering this offseason. The "tampering" that cost them Bodganovic probably worked out for the Bucks in the long-term because if DJ Wilson goes to the Kings as part of the Bogdan deal, it's less likely the Bucks get PJ Tucker since they needed the Wilson and Augustin contracts to make it work.

https://www.barstoolsports.com...ering-will-never-die

This situation in particular though is even funnier than normal. You see, tampering is completely fine for the Heat when they are the ones getting the player. That's the case with most teams I imagine. Remember though, "tampering" was what cost the Bucks Bogdan Bogdanovic last offseason, because a certain "rival" team complained to the league about tampering. It's largely thought that a certain someone was the complainer because at the time they were still in the Giannis sweepstakes prior to him signing that extension.

Almost like that wasn't done in good faith! As we know, Bogdnovic ended up in ATL and the Bucks won the title anyway, but it's still funny that the team most believe were the ones to complain about tampering are now about to sign one of the bigger names on the market this offseason through….tampering.

What’s funny is I have a strong suspicion that the Bucks knew the Heat were the ones complaining to the league hence the 4-0 beatdown that ensued in round 1.

It also seemed a little odd at the time that Milwaukee actually declared they wanted Miami in R1 and did everything in their power to ensure that matchup.

Next to the Lakers, the Heat seem to be most out in front of these claims and rumors yet it’s teams like the Bucks that get penalized.  

In the end, Milwaukee extending Giannis and winning it all is a great big middle finger to the Heat and Raptors and ESPN and all the other haters.   I hope the Bucks win more titles and the Heat get worked over yet again.

@Boris posted:

Chris Paul is leaving Phoenix. $500.00 says he ends up with the Lakers.😆

https://sports.yahoo.com/seemi...chris-180701762.html

There's this....^^^

Then there is this 👇🏼👇🏼
https://sports.yahoo.com/repor...agent-214247092.html

I’m in

@Tschmack posted:

Chris Paul is rumored to want a 3 year deal.  

Well he got FOUR years

https://www.si.com/nba/2021/08...ear-120-million-deal

Suns are idiots

Good luck with that Phoenix

@Tschmack posted:

Suns are idiots

Good luck with that Phoenix

So you are thinking paying a guy 30 million a year when he's 40 isn't a good idea?

Um no

I would have offered him 2 years 35MM each year.  But Paul has leverage over Phoenix because he knows if he leaves that’s probably a 45 win team at best.

The problem is this isn’t 30 year old Chris Paul.  He will never be better than this year and you get him 4 more years?

This makes the Albert Pujols Angels deal look smart.

Sterling Brown to the Mavs.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story...llington-sources-say

12:16 a.m. ET: Free agent guard Spencer Dinwiddieis nearing a deal with the Washington Wizards, sources tell ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. Dinwiddie played three games last season for the Brooklyn Netsbefore tearing the ACL in his right knee.

11:58 p.m. ET: Oklahoma City Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander has agreed to a five-year, $172 million maximum rookie contract extension, his agent Thaddeus Foucher told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

11:57 p.m. ET: Atlanta Hawks All-Star guard Trae Young has agreed to a five-year, $207 million designated rookie maximum extension, his agent Omar Wilkes told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

11:33 p.m. ET: Free agent Semi Ojeleye has agreed to a one-year deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, his agent Sean Kennedy told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

11:08 p.m. ET: The Denver Nuggets reached a two-year, $17 million agreement to keep forward JaMychal Green, according to multiple reports.

10:45 p.m. ET: The Los Angeles Lakers have signed Kent Bazemore to a one-year contract, ESPN's Dave McMenamin confirms. Bazemore is the fourth Lakers signing who previously played for the team (Dwight Howard, Trevor Ariza, Wayne Ellington).

10:34 p.m. ET: Free-agent guard Max Strus is returning to the Miami Heat on a two-year, $3.5 million deal, his agent Mark Bartelstein told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

9:57 p.m. ET: Six-time All-Star Blake Griffin agreed on a one-year deal to stay with the Brooklyn Nets, his agent Sam Goldfeder told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

9:55 p.m. ET: Free agent Norman Powell agreed to a five-year, $90 million deal to return to the Portland Trail Blazers, his agent Thaddeus Foucher told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

9:30 p.m. ET: The New Orleans Pelicans are adding Charlotte Hornets restricted free-agent guard Devonte' Graham on a four-year, $47 million contract in a sign-and-trade deal, agents Ty Sullivan and Austin Brown told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. New Orleans will send Charlotte its 2022 lottery-protected first-round pick, according to a source.

8:50 p.m. ET: The Milwaukee Bucks agreed to a two-year, $9 million deal with Bobby Portis, sources confirmed to ESPN. The second year is a player option, sources said.

8:45 p.m. ET: Center Cody Zeller has agreed to a one-year deal with the Portland Trail Blazers, his agent Sam Goldfeder told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

8:44 p.m. ET: Center Daniel Theis has agreed to a four-year, $36 million deal to join the Houston Rockets, his agents Michael Tellem and Aaron Mintz told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

8:16 p.m. ET: Free-agent guard Alex Caruso has agreed to a four-year, $37 million deal with the Chicago Bulls, his agent Greg Lawrence told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

8:15 p.m. ET: Nic Batum has agreed to return to the LA Clippers for a two-year deal that includes a player option in the second year, a source confirmed to ESPN's Ohm Youngmisuk.

8:11 p.m. ET: Guard Derrick Rose has agreed to a three-year, $43 million deal to return to the New York Knicks, a source told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

8:04 p.m. ET: Free agent Evan Fournier has agreed to terms with the Knicks for a four-year deal that could be worth as much as $78 million, a source told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

7:51 p.m. ET: Free agent forward Solomon Hill has agreed to a one-year deal to return to the Atlanta Hawks, a source told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

7:50 p.m. ET: Free agent Dwight Howard is returning to the Los Angeles Lakers, his agent Qais Haider told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. This will be Howard's third tour with the Lakers.

7:38 p.m. ET: Free agent forward Trevor Ariza has agreed to a one-year deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, his agents Aaron Mintz, Steven Heumann and Erika Ruiz told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

7:33 p.m. ET: Free agent forward Mike Muscala has agreed on a two-year, $7 million deal to return to the Oklahoma City Thunder, his agent Sean Kennedy told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

7:29 p.m. ET: Free agent Zach Collins has agreed to a three-year, $22 million deal with the San Antonio Spurs, his agent Mark Bartelstein told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

7:23 p.m. ET: Gary Trent Jr. has agreed to a three-year, $54 million deal to return to the Toronto Raptors, his agent Rich Paul told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. The deal includes a player option on the third year.

7:22 p.m. ET: Furkan Korkmaz has agreed to a three-year, $15 million deal to stay with the 76ers, his agents Mike Lindeman and Jeff Schwartz told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

7:16 p.m. ET: Wing Reggie Bullock has agreed to a deal with the Mavericks, sources told ESPN's Tim MacMahon.

7:14 p.m. ET: Backup center Boban Marjanovic has a new one-year deal with Dallas, a source told ESPN's Tim MacMahon. That will give him three seasons with the Mavs, who will have his full Bird rights next summer.

7:13 p.m. ET: Forward Moe Harkless has agreed to a two-year, $9 million deal with the Sacramento Kings, agent Nima Namakian told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

7:10 p.m. ET: Sterling Brown has agreed to a two-year deal with the Dallas Mavericks, a source told ESPN's Tim MacMahon. Brown started his NBA career playing for Jason Kidd in Milwaukee.

7:08 p.m. ET: Free agent forward/center Jeff Greenhas agreed to a two-year, $10 million deal with the Denver Nuggets, his agent Jason Glushon told ESPN's Malika Andrews. The deal includes a player option in the second year.

6:58 p.m. ET: Long-range shooter Doug McDermotthas agreed to a three-year, $42 million deal with the San Antonio Spurs, according to ESPN's Zach Lowe.

6:45 p.m. ET: Phoenix Suns All-Star guard Chris Paul, who opted out of a $44 million player option Sunday, has agreed to stay on with the Suns with a new four-year deal that could be worth as much as $120 million, his agents Steve Heumann and Ty Sullivan told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski

6:40 p.m. ET: Free agent forward Torrey Craig has agreed to a two-year, $10 million deal with the Indiana Pacers, his agents Dave Spahn and Austin Brown told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

6:39 p.m. ET: Duncan Robinson has agreed to a five-year, $90 million contract to stay with the Miami Heat, his agent Jason Glushon told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. The deal is the largest ever for an undrafted player.

6:38 p.m. ET: Kyle Lowry is indeed headed to South Beach as he has a three-year deal with the Miami Heatin a sign-and-trade with the Toronto Raptors, a source tells ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowsk

6:33 p.m. ET: T.J. McConnell has agreed to a four-year, $35.2 million deal to stay with the Indiana Pacers, his agent Mark Bartelstein told told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

6:22 p.m. ET: The Miami Heat and Jimmy Butler are progressing toward a maximum contract extension that could be worth up to $184 million over four years, sources told ESPN's Brian Windhorst. Butler and the Heat can finalize the deal over the next week and officially come to terms after Aug. 6 when he's eligible to extend the initial deal he signed with Miami in 2019. Butler is a key piece in recruiting free agent point guard Kyle Lowry to the Heat this summer.

6:21 p.m. ET: The confirmed salary cap/tax numbers for the 2021-22 league year are $112.4 million for the cap and $136.6 million for the tax threshold, according to ESPN's Bobby Marks.

6:17 p.m. ET: All-Star guard Mike Conley is staying in Utah after agreeing to a three-year, $72.5 million deal with the Jazz, his agents Steve Heumann and Jess Holtz told ESPN.

6:15 p.m. ET: Free-agent guard Will Barton has agreed to a two-year, $32 million deal to stay with the Denver Nuggets, sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

6:14 p.m. ET: Free agent Kelly Olynyk has agreed to a three-year, $37 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, his agent Jeff Schwartz told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

6:11 p.m. ET: Restricted free agent C Jarrett Allenhas agreed to a five-year, $100 million contract to stay with the Cleveland Cavaliers, his agents Derrick Powell and Jim Tanner tell ESPN.

6:10 p.m. ET: The New York Knicks made a pair of moves to retain two players, agreeing to three-year deals with guard Alec Burks ($30 million) and center Nerlens Noel ($32 million), sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

6:07 p.m. ET: Former LSU star Garrett Temple will return to his home state as he is heading to the New Orleans Pelicans, agreeing to a three-year deal (two guaranteed), a source told Marc J. Spears of The Undefeated. The move is part of the Lonzo Ball sign-and-trade deal.

6:04 p.m. ET: Tim Hardaway Jr. has agreed to a four-year, $72 million deal to re-sign with the Dallas Mavericks, a source tells ESPN's Tim MacMahon. Dallas made Hardaway a top priority, even while pursuing potential sign-and-trade scenarios to add Kyle Lowry.

6:01 p.m. ET: New Orleans Pelicans guard Lonzo Ball is heading to Chicago on a four-year, $85 million deal with the Bulls in a sign-and-trade agreement, his agent Rich Paul told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. The deal could turn into a three-way swap that lands Devonte' Graham in New Orleans, according to ESPN's Ramona Shelburne.

5:22 p.m. ET: The Chicago Bulls have guaranteed the contracts for Thaddeus Young ($14.2 million) and Tomas Satoransky ($10 million), ESPN's Bobby Marks reported. The Bulls now have $96.3 million in guaranteed contracts but are technically over the cap because of the $20.2 million cap hold on Lauri Markkanen.

5:20 p.m. ET: The New York Knicks, San Antonio Spurs and Dallas Mavericks are all teams to watch for free agent Kelly Oubre Jr., ESPN's Ramona Shelburne reported during The Jump Free Agency Special.

4:28 p.m. ET: ESPN's Brian Windhorst reported the Chicago Bulls have shown interest in free agents Lonzo Ball and DeMar DeRozan. To land DeRozan, Windhorst reported, the Bulls could be eyeing a possible double sign-and-trade that would also involve Lauri Markkanen.

3:07 p.m. ET: There is motivation between Chris Paul and the Phoenix Suns to reach a new deal "as soon as tonight," ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported during The Jump Free Agency Special. Paul, 36, declined his $44 million player option for 2021-22.

3:06 p.m. ET: According to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski during The Jump Free Agency Special, the expectation is that free agent Kawhi Leonard, who on Sunday declined his $36 million option, will return to the LA Clippers once free agency begins.

3:05 p.m. ET: The stars could be aligning for Kyle Lowry to join the Miami Heat early in the free agency period, which begins tonight at 6 p.m. ET. "Everything is in place for Kyle to be a member of the Heat as early as tonight," ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported during The Jump Free Agency Special.

1:25 p.m. ET: Former NBA guard Tyler Dorsey -- a formidable EuroLeague 3-point shooter -- is getting interest from several teams in free agency, sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. Dorsey played parts of two seasons in the NBA with the Atlanta Hawks and Memphis Grizzlies.

By the way, how'd you like to the Clippers with Kawhi right now? He's likely not going to play at all in 2021-22.

He opts out for next year, but basically now wants to sign a 1 + 1 contract. So, instead of being guaranteed money for next year only, he wants the Clippers to guarantee him money for the next two years. If he has any setbacks in rehab, he'll opt into the second year and make 80 million over the next 2 years. If he is ready to come back and looks healthy next summer, he'll opt out again and can leave them.

Well, that’s the problem when you dance with the devil.  

I mean, there’s Kahwi basically holding the LAC hostage.  He knows it and doesn’t care.  But this is a guy that quit on San Antonio and became a hired gun after leaving Toronto.

Paul’s deal could cripple the Suns for years.  He’s not getting any younger and they will never have a better chance than this year yet you sign him for 4yrs and 120MM guaranteed?   He’ll never see the end of that contract playing close to the level he is now.

The Big 3 in Brooklyn all have player options after this upcoming year.  If they opt out the Nets are a wasteland all over again.

Makes me appreciate what the Bucks are doing even more.

Patty Mills to the Nets for essentially the mid-level exception. 2 years and 12 million. His choice supposedly came down to the Lakers or the Nets.

Durant, Harden, Irving, Griffin, Mills, Joe Harris (regular-season version). That's a lot of offense, but only one ball to go around. They still don't have anyone to guard Giannis or Embiid. DeAndre Jordan's fossilized legs aren't going to get that job done.

DeRozan to the Bulls on a sign and trade for 3 years and 85 million. Bulls only give up one first and Thaddeus Young. DeRozan, L. Ball, Vucevic, LaVine, and Markkenen get them into the 4-6 seed discussions next season.

Lakers roster next year (age during playoffs next year in parentheses). They have Monk and T Horton-Tucker as well, but these are the guys that are going to get the minutes.

LeBron (37)

Carmelo (38)

Gasol (37)

Ariza (37)

Howard (36)

Ellington (34)

Westbrook (33)

Bazemore (33)

A. Davis (29)

And now Kendrick Nunn goes to the Lakers. At some point, will the Lakers just have split teams and only play LeBron about 40 games during the regular season?

We as Bucks fans are fortunate. We have a superstar, already have won a title, and will be competitive for the next several years to be at least a top 4-5 NBA team.

The Mavs and Pelicans have Luka and Zion and can't get anyone to sign at all. Guys would rather go be backups for the Lakers or Nets than play with Luka or Zion for more money.

The Bucks winning a title has allowed the NBA to ignore this superteam building for a few more years, but the NBA is morphing towards being a handful of teams that are the Globetrotters and a couple of dozen Washington Generals teams.

Who really has a chance to win a title next year? Lakers, Nets, Bucks, Heat, and maybe the Nuggets?

@MichiganPacker2 posted:

Lakers roster next year (age during playoffs next year in parentheses). They have Monk and T Horton-Tucker as well, but these are the guys that are going to get the minutes.

LeBron (37)

Carmelo (38)

Gasol (37)

Ariza (37)

Howard (36)

Ellington (34)

Westbrook (33)

Bazemore (33)

A. Davis (29)

And the young guy on the roster has the longest injury history of them all…

Bulls starting lineup:

PG- Lonzo Ball

SG- Zach Levine

SF- Demar Derozen

PF- Thaddeus Young

C- Nikola Vucevic

Bench: Alex Caruso, Coby White,

If they keep Markkanen, they’re better.

Looks like Young was included in the Derozen sign-and-trade, so they’re going with their youngster Pat Williams as a PF. He’s a PJ Tucker type- all hustle, defense, no offense. But on that team, they’re going to need a second ball. Derozen and Levine are super ball-dominant, and if they don’t feed Vuch there’s going to be hell to pay.

I’m not concerned about the Bulls.  The pieces still all need to fit and with Vucevic to be effective he needs the ball.   That doesn’t seem to match by adding DeRozan and as you stated MC it’s not like Zach Levine has a problem hogging the ball.

I also worry about their ability to defend and rebound.  You know, pretty important stuff.

People went bonkers when Chicago acquired Vucevic and that team completely imploded.   I realize that there’s a lot of optimism in Chicago and Miami but in the East nothing has changed.  Brooklyn and Milwaukee and to a lesser extent ATL are still the best teams by a wide margin.  Sure, the Heat and Bulls improved but I don’t think they can be taken seriously no more than Boston or Philly can be taken seriously.

@Tschmack posted:

I’m not concerned about the Bulls.  The pieces still all need to fit and with Vucevic to be effective he needs the ball.   That doesn’t seem to match by adding DeRozan and as you stated MC it’s not like Zach Levine has a problem hogging the ball.

I also worry about their ability to defend and rebound.  You know, pretty important stuff.

People went bonkers when Chicago acquired Vucevic and that team completely imploded.   I realize that there’s a lot of optimism in Chicago and Miami but in the East nothing has changed.  Brooklyn and Milwaukee and to a lesser extent ATL are still the best teams by a wide margin.  Sure, the Heat and Bulls improved but I don’t think they can be taken seriously no more than Boston or Philly can be taken seriously.

Agree on the Hawks, but there problem is that now instead of paying Trae Young and Collins 9.5 million a year combined the salaries are now 67 million a year combined. They are where the Bucks were 2 years ago now. Once the Bucks committed to Giannis and Middleton at the max, the success was going to come down largely to how much those two could continue to improve. Don't me wrong, guys like Holiday, Portis, etc. made major contributions but that doesn't matter unless Giannis and Middleton could elevate their games. Giannis went from a borderline HOFer to a first-ballot guy and Middleton from a very good player to a multiple All-Star/Olympian. I'm not sure Young and Collins can do that.

The other issue with Trae Young is if the refs are serious on cracking down on offensive players lunging into defenders to draw fouls that may have a significant impact on his game.  He draws a lot of fouls and gets to the FT line a lot.

The Hawks are a strong candidate for a big fall-off. McMillan was interim coach, and his coaching has always had an expiration date. Not sure why that is, but he always starts great and then coaches himself out of town.

I agree MC.  I don’t think the Hawks have a lot of staying power.  How will they handle their recent success?  Trae and Collins just got a big pay increase and will they be as motivated?

I think beyond motivation- as much as the stars aligned for the Bucks to get to the Finals, the stars really aligned for the Hawks. They got an offensively challenged Knicks team and then another offensively challenged Sixers team. And though they caught the Bucks in Game 1, the Bucks rolled them in the final 2 games without Giannis because they finally figured out how to move the ball. They also unleashed the Holiday after game 1, and while Young’s injury did impact him, the Bucks kinda figured out how to beat them after game 3. To do what they did to them those last two games without their best player meant a lot to what the Bucks did in the Finals.

Now I like Hunter a lot- but he has to prove he can stay on the floor. And I don’t think Trae Young will be at the top of the FTA rankings with an emphasis on NOT rewarding side-jump contact with FTs. That’s going to take a weapon away from him. They still need to figure out how to defend at some point.

Hope the Bucks reported this

Would love to see the league do something to void the Lowry trade.

Me too. The Heat reported the Bucks so fuck them

https://www.espn.com/nba/story...yn-nets-manager-says

KD on Nets.

https://bleacherreport.com/art...-moves-to-draw-fouls

The videos detail examples of stuff that’s either going to be non calls or go the other way.

"- The shooter launches or leans into a defender at an abnormal angle

"- The offensive player abruptly veers off his path (sideways or backwards) into a defender

"- The shooter kicks his leg (up or to the side) at an abnormal angle

"- The offensive player’s off-arm hooks the defender (often in the process of attempting a shot in a non-basketball manner)"

What will be really interesting is the change in the “pass through” play. It looks like that’s now going to be a non-call. That’s going to have a very particular impact on guys like Paul, Harden, James, Irving, Westbrook- guys that get cheap fouls that give them more room to drive. Now defenders will be able extend their hands again- they’ll be able to prevent more drives, since the offensive players will no longer have that tactical advantage.

Defenses will once again have a chance. That’s a good thing…

Eric Bledsoe to the Clippers for Rondo, Patrick Beverly, and Oturu.

https://theathletic.com/news/c...sources/C0EPCiOuAFF9

Back where he started…