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Just heard our favorite NFL Commissioner say that there is discussion that may lead to the elimination of the Extra Point after a touchdown is scored.  Two ideas he said are:

- Just make a TD = 7 points

- Make a TD = 7 -OR- Have the option to run or pass for a PAT to make the total 8....BUT if the PAT attempt fails, the TD is reduced to 6 points

 

Roger said only 5 PATs were missed this season out of about 1700 TDs scored.  Point being, the PAT is almost a worthless play that takes time and risks injuries.

 

Consider these ideas too:

 

- Move the PAT line back to the 15 yd line

- Give the defense 1 point on a blocked PAT

- Give the defense the opportunity to score 2 points on the blocked PAT returned to the opposite EZ and 3 points on a fumbled or interception PAT returned to the opposite EZ.

 

 

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So....lemme get this straight...

 

" the PAT is almost a worthless play that takes time and risks injuries."

 

However...potentially let's...

 

"Give the defense the opportunity to score 2 points on the blocked PAT returned to the opposite EZ and 3 points on a fumbled or interception PAT returned to the opposite EZ"

 

Yeah I'm certain nobody would ever get injured on this type of play.

 

The PAT is not a worthless play. It's part of the game, Roger

I think they should do something to change it up. Don't like the automatic seven so I'd go with pushing back the kick for the extra point.  Put a XP kick on the 30 and teams might get a lot more interested in going for two from the 2.  If the defense can take it to the house make it 2 the other way.      

 

Remember when some were bitching and moaning that the NFL wanted to allow the 2 point conversion into the pro game?  I couldn't imagine the NFL without it now.     

Great thread!   I like the idea mentioned earlier.  If you go for 2, put the ball on the 2 yard line.  If you just want the 1 point, you must kick it from the 25 yard line (a 42 yard FG).

 

I haven't done the research, but I'm sure the NFL would look at the stats and percentages.  What is the % of FG kicks made from the 42 yard line compared to the 20 yard line?  or the 15 yard line?

 

Find a fair percentage and use that as the XP guide.

 

However, I would not do what college does and give the D 2 points for returning a fumble or INT on an XP kick.  I do believe there would be too many injuries for the NFL on such a play.

 

Unfortunately, I think you've come the closest, lovepack.

It seems that Badall is slowly, but surely, trying to elimate kicks from the game. Too dangerous, and all that, dontchaknow.

 

If there is any kind of play for PAT, there is a risk of injury.

So eventually, in Bad Rog's NFL, there won't be KOs; teams will get the ball at 20 or 25 yard line.

There won't be any PATs; teams will get 7 points for a TD, and the 2-point try will go away.

He will eventually stop punting plays as well. Teams will have to run a play on 4th down, and the FG try will go the way of 2-point conversions.

 

Sigh.

 

Exactly, it's not a touchdown unless the ball carrier crosses the goal line and touches the ball down.  

 

 

1 Pt PAT kick? Move it back to the 20 to make it a 37/38 yard try.

2 Pts PAT run/pass? Do it from the three and give the D a chance for the 2 pts if they take it back the other way.

Make them have to drop-kick it, add a little skill to the already heart pounding PAT experience.

 

Plus Doug Flutie might come out of retirement, now who wouldn't want to see that?

 

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I'm with Fedya and Larsee on this.  Quit f***ing with the game.  The game is not the problem.  The Badell/NFLFU is the problem.

 

edit:  I'm also with GBFFL.

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Originally Posted by lovepack:

Just make teams go for two points each time. No more kicks at all.

This.

 

Extra points now are boring and a waste of time.

 

2 point tries are much more interesting.

Just build goal posts with sliding, adjustable uprights.  Move the uprights in from 18'6" to 10' or so for extra points.  

 

Just kidding.  Not sure there is any need for a change really.  If they want to change something then leave the option of kicking for 1 point or running/passing for 2 points the same but move the line of scrimmage back if kicking for 1 point. 

Is goofy Goodell's mission to change the NFL to the point its not recognizable anymore?? Some one check his meds. He wants to remove the 'BORING' aspects of the game? Then stop allowing the refs to delay calling a TD a TD for 3-4 minutes after the fact. I use to enjoy watching the PACKERS TDs, now I have to wait to see if the refs will allow it. The officials have really killed the excitement of the NFL imo. 20-30 years ago they(REFS)were nearly invisible...go back to that model  PLEASE!!!!

Originally Posted by Timmy!:

Unfortunately, I think you've come the closest, lovepack.

It seems that Badall is slowly, but surely, trying to elimate kicks from the game. Too dangerous, and all that, dontchaknow.

 

If there is any kind of play for PAT, there is a risk of injury.

So eventually, in Bad Rog's NFL, there won't be KOs;

 

There won't be any PATs;

 

He will eventually stop punting plays as well.

 

 

Then it really can't be called "Football" anymore.  Handball?  Throwball?  Tackleball?

Originally Posted by Shoeless Joe:

Make them have to drop-kick it, add a little skill to the already heart pounding PAT experience.

 

This...and they could make it more interesting if they followed rugby's rules where the kick has to occur straight out from where the ball was in the end zone for the score.  So if a player scores on the edge of the end zone, then the kick has to take place at that angle.  So if you want an "automatic" PAT, your players better try to "center the ball" and score in the middle of the end zone.

Originally Posted by Packy:

Just build goal posts with sliding, adjustable uprights.  Move the uprights in from 18'6" to 10' or so for extra points.  

 

Just kidding.  Not sure there is any need for a change really.  If they want to change something then leave the option of kicking for 1 point or running/passing for 2 points the same but move the line of scrimmage back if kicking for 1 point. 

The problem I see with moving it back only for kicks is it would take away the possibility of a fake PAT kick...not that it happens much, but it could.

Originally Posted by DH13:
Originally Posted by Timmy!:

Unfortunately, I think you've come the closest, lovepack.

It seems that Badall is slowly, but surely, trying to elimate kicks from the game. Too dangerous, and all that, dontchaknow.

 

If there is any kind of play for PAT, there is a risk of injury.

So eventually, in Bad Rog's NFL, there won't be KOs;

 

There won't be any PATs;

 

He will eventually stop punting plays as well.

 

 

Then it really can't be called "Football" anymore.  Handball?  Throwball?  Tackleball?

This:

 

Sh*tball? F***kingStupidBall?  Pussball?

wait...  I know, sell rights to rename the game and it can be auctioned to the highest bidder each year!!  Halliburtonball, GEball, Raytheonball, JPMorganChaseball...

I'm all for removing the XP. One of the most insignificant plays of any major American sport

 

I don't like the proposal of automatically giving teams 7 points though. Just have them go for 2 each time

I'd like to maybe see the kick moved back some, but otherwise I'm fine with it. It gives backups some snaps and helps keep them "in the game" (which is very important in GB lately as their chances of playing regular snaps by the end of the game is high lately) as well as giving the kicker kicks to keep him going.

Moving it closer to say the one yard line would make it interesting with more two point tries.  But, not sure the commish. would go for this idea with maybe more helmet to helmet hits on the goal line. 

Originally Posted by Packy:

 Not sure there is any need for a change really.  If they want to change something then leave the option of kicking for 1 point or running/passing for 2 points the same but move the line of scrimmage back if kicking for 1 point. 

 

Agree, though I love the idea of the defense being able to return it for the points attempted. You should be able to score on any play in the NFL. 

Originally Posted by GBP1:

Just heard our favorite NFL Commissioner say that there is discussion that may lead to the elimination of the Extra Point after a touchdown is scored.  Two ideas he said are:

- Just make a TD = 7 points

- Make a TD = 7 -OR- Have the option to run or pass for a PAT to make the total 8....BUT if the PAT attempt fails, the TD is reduced to 6 points

 

Roger said only 5 PATs were missed this season out of about 1700 TDs scored.  Point being, the PAT is almost a worthless play that takes time and risks injuries.

 

 

One of the very few times I agree with the commish. Boris, the two point play is so rare it would have an almost negligible impact to injury lists and yet, coaches may use it to help them catch up when their teams are behind.

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