Yeah that was mind boggling play calling decision considering they were only down by 7, how well Montgomery was running and how poorly Mitch was throwing. Based on the first couple series I was expecting them to run the ball 60 times, didn’t expect they would throw 60 times.
Timpranillo posted:Nagy called 12 running plays in total, and the last 33 plays were passes. The last called run by Nagy was with 10:20 left in the 3rd quarter.
Never down more than 7. That's unreal.
Nagy wanted to show the world his QB is as good as Rodgers.
Packer defense was doing well vs. the run too
Boris posted:Timpranillo posted:Nagy called 12 running plays in total, and the last 33 plays were passes. The last called run by Nagy was with 10:20 left in the 3rd quarter.
Never down more than 7. That's unreal.
Nagy wanted to show the world his QB is as good as Rodgers.
Packer defense was doing well vs. the run too
Well, in Nagy's defense, Corrente was on the call...50/50 shot every pass MIGHT be PI.
Preston Smith was unreal playing the run.
I was a bit puzzled the Bears didn’t run it more but it’s not like they were getting much anyway.
Maybe more credit needs to go to Pettine and the D?
Not much to add...
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Great to see open field tacking and D swarming to the ball last night.
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I hope Rodgers will trust D, buy into scheme, lean on the run game and take what D gives him or throw it away. I know Bears D is a beast but still too much holding ball, looking for homerun every snap and taking sacks.
Bottom line; D looks capable of carrying the day until O gets up to speed.
I was not familiar with Preston Smith at all prior to this game. Never saw him play a snap. His wide wingspan was giving me Sean Jones flashbacks. But Preston is much quicker than Sean ever was. I am very glad to have the Smith Bros on board!
Oh yeah, 1st and 40 was a good recap of Bears O last night.
Grave Digger posted:It can’t be understated how much that Bears front 7 ****s up any gameplanning. They’re stacked across the board with not just good players, but elite players. 90% of the rhythm and OL issues were the DL just going wild. OL got enough of them to make some key plays though, big props for that.
Sucks to say but they have an all-time front 7 right now. Mack, Smith, Hicks, Trevathon, Floyd and Goldman could all be pro bowlers. I'm not ready to write off the OL quite yet. Let's see them against a weaker front 7 before we worry.
Crazy how huge of an upgrade it is going from CMIII and Perry on the edge to the Smith Bros, and from Haha/Jones/Brice to Amos and Savage. With those 4 newbies, the other issues just didn't look quite as bad. And I don't think the Bears offense is that bad. They have a solid OL and some good weapons in Miller, Robinson, Cohen, Montgomery, and Davis. Apparently Cordarrelle Patterson is there too. And Trubisky missed on some throws and blew it on that pick but he's not terrible either. I'm hopeful this defense can finish in the top 10.
Forgot where I read it.. (packerswire maybe). Gary saw limited snaps but created pocket pressure a couple of times that forced Trubisky into hurried throws.
biggest + in my mind was the fact that we didn't have a defensive holding call or an unsportsmanlike penalty when it was 3rd and 40.
I swear to God I was thinking the same thing during that series...
agree all around , not much to add.
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With so many question marks, and 2 rough years and a new HC, this team marched into enemy territory and never got rattled. I know its one game but starting the season and MLF regime with this kind of road win is so freaking huge. This team now has the confidence to propel it to a strong start and should be a really fun year with this defense
Defense and field position. The bears never threatened or sniffed the end zone. the D and ST were phenomenal even when the Offense moved backwards. After all the hype on the Bears D (which is impressive) , fo r the Pack D to be the headline is even sweeter.
Amos getting the dagger pic was another cherry on top!
Scott was stellar!
Laughed soo hard when Bares traded up and took trubitchsky in the draft! I watched him at UNC and he wasnt impressive in the few starts he had here. I think hes reached his ceiling.
Savage, Alexander, Smith brothers, martinez, the kids were flying around the field!
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No real concerns, as Im confident these things will get worked out:
-Hiking the ball with 0.01 seconds on the play clock repeatedly. I couldnt figur eout if this was intentional or not. one of the big pass plays we hiked after the clock hit 00 and no call. makes me nervous!
- running game. again, this will only improve as we go on and face less stiff front lines.
-12 had a little rust but no mistakes and got the job done against an onslaught of pressure.
- play calling adjustments. never went to the slants/screens ( yes the first one was blown up). play calls looked similar to last season. timing was off on some plays. again, this should get worked out as we go. really hoping to see more quick rhythm in the passing game as the new offense settles in.
Also....
I think we dodged a major bullet on the Offensive pass interference on that busted play bomb. I didnt see much of a push off that would warrant a penalty, but after the calls against us , Im not complaining. surprised Nagy didnt challenge that bc it was late and they had it inside the 10.
Beat the Queens!
Timpranillo posted:This isn't a defense of Trubisky AT ALL.
That said, holy shit, Nagy didn't do him any favors.
In a game where the Bears were never down more than 1 score, Nagy called 12 running plays in total, and the last 33 plays were passes. The last called run by Nagy was with 10:20 left in the 3rd quarter.
Never down more than 7. That's unreal.
Nagy is from Andy Reid’s school and that was his MO all his years in Philly. The day after the press would be asking ‘why did you pass 75% and only run 25%? Andy’s response - ‘I’ll do better next game.’ But he never did.
I think he didn't challenge it because he knew he would lose.
I think the simple view of pass interference either offensive or defensive is this, if both guys engaged in the action are grabbing each other, extending arms out, etc. and there's not a clear advantage for one or the other, it likely will not be called (though there are some refs that can screw it up and find a way to call it anyways).
In the case of Alexander getting pushed from behind, it was clear as day and Alexander was not pushing back at all (he couldn't since he was turned around facing the ball). That was a clear case of offensive pass interference, though I will agree that some refs might say "Oh he didn't push him that hard, I'm letting it go", I think most good refs will call it due to the clear advantage the defensive guy had.
That all said... I was disappointed in how poorly Alexander timed his jump there. Maybe it did have to do with being off balance from the push, but that kind of reminded of Terrell Buckley's inability to judge a ball in the air. Hopefully it was just a 1 time thing that won't happen a whole lot more.
Pakrz posted:Forgot where I read it.. (packerswire maybe). Gary saw limited snaps but created pocket pressure a couple of times that forced Trubisky into hurried throws.
The play that I saw was the pass just before the 2:00 warning in the 2nd half. Hit Mitch just as he let go of the ball. Wonder how many snaps he played.
Rashan Gary played 6 snaps.
Josh Jackson played 3 snaps.
That's a pretty good sign you have depth when a healthy 1st and 2nd rounder are mostly watching.
Henry posted:Pakrz posted:vitaflo posted:Heads up play of the game was Rodgers not taking a timeout and taking the delay of game. It meant we kept our timeout and allowed MLF to challenge that horrible Bears "catch" later in the game.
If Rodgers would have tried to take a quick timeout when he noticed he wasn't going to get the snap off it could have been an entirely different game.
Yep. At the time I was pissed... turns out Rodgers is much smarter me.
He was also giving Opie more room on the punt.
That was a different play. The one I'm talking about was in the 4th quarter, about 9:00 left. 2nd down. He looks up at the clock with a second left on it and turns around and is pissed. He knows he shouldn't take a timeout cuz we only have one left, and it's going to put him in a 2nd and long because of it.
That was the drive we ended up getting a field goal on. The next drive the bears had that "catch" that was able to be challenged by MLF because Rodgers didn't take a timeout on the previous drive.
Interesting that Tramon played every snap, 73, while King only played 42. Also of note, Fackrell had 23 snaps compared to Gary who had 6.
Are they being cautious with King or is Tramon ahead of him on the depth chart? No role for Gary?
Timpranillo posted:Never down more than 7. That's unreal.
More like McCarthy-esque.
Respect.
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Kumerow is a better WR than Davis. MVS can do everything better than Davis. Maybe even faster. why have both?
Kumerow needs to be on the field.
I also think GB is incredibly tough to defend when Rodgers is under center with Vitale in front of Jones.
Grave Digger posted:It can’t be understated how much that Bears front 7 ****s up any gameplanning. They’re stacked across the board with not just good players, but elite players. 90% of the rhythm and OL issues were the DL just going wild. OL got enough of them to make some key plays though, big props for that.
Biggest negative was timing. WTF takes so long in the huddle that they get to the line with 10 sec? Speed that shit up.
Think about this: The Packers almost neutralized Khalil Mack and Akiem Hicks, two of the best defenders in the game at their positions. Mack had five tackles and even with the sack, Hicks could only muster a couple. That's a line I think any of us would have said was great going in.
The Bears then still have Robertson-Harris, Goldman, Roquon Smith, Trevaithan and Leonard Floyd in the front seven. That's nasty.
packerboi posted:Rashan Gary played 6 snaps.
Josh Jackson played 3 snaps.
That's a pretty good sign you have depth when a healthy 1st and 2nd rounder are mostly watching.
That's not a good sign for Jackson considering Tony Brown started ahead of him.
Herschel posted:Think about this: The Packers almost neutralized Khalil Mack and Akiem Hicks, two of the best defenders in the game at their positions....
Another perspective:
Martinez had a better game (at least statistically).
He matched him on solo tackles and TFL. He also had 2 assists, a QB hit and a sack.
Hell, Kenny Clark basically matched Mack's numbers!
ChilliJon posted:Kumerow is a better WR than Davis. MVS can do everything better than Davis. Maybe even faster. why have both?
Kumerow needs to be on the field.
I also think GB is incredibly tough to defend when Rodgers is under center with Vitale in front of Jones.
This.
Bulaga and Bahk played great. The interior OL, not so much. Next weeks opponent is pretty damn good up front too so they will need to be better.
I'd rather see Jenkins at G than Taylor. He's the better player.
Interior OL was not good. Tough for Rodgers to stand in and scan the field when you've got those big dudes bearing down on you immediately after the snap. Yes, a couple times he did hold the ball too long, but you need to see your receivers to throw it. And if Rodgers runs outside, he stands the chance of being crushed by Mack and Hicks. Tough DL, but Lindsley, Taylor, and Turner all need to be better to keep Rodgers upright and healthy.
michiganjoe posted:+
JK Scott is a weapon-
This. Just unbelievable
WolfPack posted:I think we dodged a major bullet on the Offensive pass interference on that busted play bomb. I didnt see much of a push off that would warrant a penalty, but after the calls against us , Im not complaining. surprised Nagy didnt challenge that bc it was late and they had it inside the 10.
They did not dodge a bullet. Two hands, the very definition of push off. Nagy didn't throw it because he knew he'd lose.
Herschel posted:packerboi posted:Rashan Gary played 6 snaps.
Josh Jackson played 3 snaps.
That's a pretty good sign you have depth when a healthy 1st and 2nd rounder are mostly watching.
That's not a good sign for Jackson considering Tony Brown started ahead of him.
I really think Jackson is going to end up as Micah Hyde but with nowhere to play in this defense. He isn't beating out Savage or Amos and if he can't get past Brown on the CB chart there may be nothing there. He'd make good trade bait though. Get a good young ILB or CB for Jackson as a possible S/CB for a team with a need and zone scheme.
Everybody on the OL had bad play at times.
Bulaga whiffed completely on one of Rodgers' sack, and Daktari got pushed backed into him on another.
Graham spectacularly bounced off a DE or OLB on one attempt.
Run blocking was fairly weak, too.
Unless they have an injury I don’t see Josh Jackson getting many reps. He is great in zone coverage and has exceptional ball skills but he’s very average athletically compared to their other DBs.
Brown is in there because he runs a 4.4-40 and clearly team speed on D has improved. Also impressed with Greene who basically came out of nowhere.
Jackson is probably worth something so Hank you might be right. See if they can get an ILB.
I'd be happy with a CB that can legitimately play in Pettine's scheme. Considering the iffy nature of King's health I think I'd want quality depth at CB. But if they could get a legit starting ILB you'd have to take it.
Henry posted:Herschel posted:packerboi posted:Rashan Gary played 6 snaps.
Josh Jackson played 3 snaps.
That's a pretty good sign you have depth when a healthy 1st and 2nd rounder are mostly watching.
That's not a good sign for Jackson considering Tony Brown started ahead of him.
I really think Jackson is going to end up as Micah Hyde but with nowhere to play in this defense. He isn't beating out Savage or Amos and if he can't get past Brown on the CB chart there may be nothing there. He'd make good trade bait though. Get a good young ILB or CB for Jackson as a possible S/CB for a team with a need and zone scheme.
You’re forgetting that King is ahead of him on the depth chart. There will be snaps for him this season and next. I’m not in favor of trading the CB depth.