antooo posted:Yup, InflateGate re-inflated.
Next step for Lying Tom is to ask for the Appeals Court to rehear the case with a full panel of justices or head to the Supreme Court.
Oh frabjous day, callooh callay!
So if it goes to the Supreme Court and ends up in a 4-4 deadlock, which decision is enforced?
If it goes to the SC, on the day the case is heard, only 3 will be attendance - 3 Patriot fans. The others will get double pay to not show up. How do you think it will go?
In a deadlock, the ruling reverts back to the most recent, lower court, so the suspension would be upheld.
The SC is not going to take the case, so don't worry about it.
And somehow, some way, you know this isn't the end. But for now, it'll be hilarious to watch Billy boy and co. bitch/moan as the draft ensues. I'm sure Kraft is drafting his open letter to Rog whining about what a witch hunt this all is plus some gem items about activist judges.
I don't think it hurts NE much in the first 4 anyway. Keeps Brady healthy an extra 4 weeks too if his age starts cracking.
I suppose Tommy Boy could go, hat in hand, and ask the Commisioner if he could please see fit to reduce his suspension to two games.
<--- The Commish'
Herschel posted:In a deadlock, the ruling reverts back to the most recent, lower court, so the suspension would be upheld.
Nerd!
Probably stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
"Oh frabjous day, callooh callay!"
It certainly makes me all mimsey.
Federal appeal court rejected Tom Brady's appeal; Brady's four-game suspension stands
Yes he can. And probably will.
Good explainer here: http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/07/...appeal-supreme-court
I think Brady knowingly cheated.
i also think 4 games is crazy for under inflated footballs. Spying on practices was way worse.
Methinks the SCOTUS has a few more pressing issues to deal with than to consider if Brady deflates his balls. Brady may try, but 98% certain that appeal would be rejected promptly. The SCOTUS accepts very, very few cases as it is (read somewhere like 1% of cases presented) and only those with constitutional consequences. Sit your 4 weeks and stew Brady.
F**K Mr. HGH
Jeezus, this is beyond stoooopid now
Fedya posted:Can he appeal to the Supreme Court?
Yes, and they will refuse cert.
There was zero chance that the 2nd Circuit would grant an en banc hearing, same odds with SCOTUS granting cert.
El-Ka-Bong posted:I think Brady knowingly cheated.
i also think 4 games is crazy for under inflated footballs. Spying on practices was way worse.
4 games for slightly underinflating balls.
2 games for cold cocking your wife and dragging her out of an elevator (Ray Rice)
It's sad to think that Brady would have gotten less of a suspension had he assaulted Giselle rather than this gamesmanship (which is all this really was). It's the equivalent of letting the grass on the field grow longer or shorter depending on your opponent.
Once again, I salute all New England-area fans.
I agree that the whole episode has gone on way too long, to the point of being absurd.
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.
MichiganPacker posted:El-Ka-Bong posted:I think Brady knowingly cheated.
i also think 4 games is crazy for under inflated footballs. Spying on practices was way worse.
4 games for slightly underinflating balls.
2 games for cold cocking your wife and dragging her out of an elevator (Ray Rice)
It's sad to think that Brady would have gotten less of a suspension had he assaulted Giselle rather than this gamesmanship (which is all this really was). It's the equivalent of letting the grass on the field grow longer or shorter depending on your opponent.
Disagree here. While no one should ever hit a wife/girl friend or any woman. What Ray Rice did had no effect on a game. What Brady did may have well affected the outcome of an important game. Add in the previous misdeeds of the Pats and it is easy to see why Brady got hammered, and rightly so.
Ray Rice got more punishment from Roger Goodell than he did from the legal system.
I don't think the 4 games was for (just) the under-inflated balls.
Good point
The fact this was being pushed to SCOTUS should result in the Patriots organization being docked 1st round picks and Brady suspended for a year for wasting SCOTUS and the American people's time.
I didn't even give a **** before but **** that self important bull****.
ammo posted:Disagree here. While no one should ever hit a wife/girl friend or any woman. What Ray Rice did had no effect on a game. What Brady did may have well affected the outcome of an important game. Add in the previous misdeeds of the Pats and it is easy to see why Brady got hammered, and rightly so.
I think if you go back and put every important game in league history under a microscope you will find things more severe than Tom's deflated balls. Is it any more egregious than players using stickum for years before it was banned? Is it worse than ARod saying he over inflates the balls because he throws it better that way? It's just crap that goes on and people only care in this instance because they love to hate the Patriots. Tom shouldn't be punished equally or more severely than PED users or off-field offenders who damage the credibility of the league. We laugh now about guys using stickum back in the day, but how many game winning TD's or INT's were caught because that player had an extra advantage?
Henry posted:The fact this was being pushed to SCOTUS should result in the Patriots organization being docked 1st round picks and Brady suspended for a year for wasting SCOTUS and the American people's time.
I didn't even give a **** before but **** that self important bull****.
I enjoy your invective filled rants Henry, I always read them carefully to make sure I know where to insert "****" and when to put in "****" to properly maintain original intent. 
But GD, back in the day of stickum, everyone used it so all receivers had the same advantage just like all receivers today use the gloves they do -- and they all benefit. In Brady's case, only Brady (and his RBs for ease of holding onto the ball) benefited. That skews the game. I don't care if he underinflates or if ARod overinflates, but if you want to make it fair then let everyone choose which they prefer. Otherwise, it's one player/team having an advantage.
That's exactly my point. Tom Brady did not think up this under-inflated ball scheme, my guess is that this practice is as common as stickum was. Also a soft ball makes it easier to throw, catch and hold on to for the offense, but it also makes it easier for the defense to hold and catch. We know at least one other QB manipulates the footballs and there doesn't seem to be an issue with Packer fans.
I personally am ****ing outraged by ball manipulation. It should be happening more often.
How did you know I had my annual physical today?
Did they recommend Performance Enhancing Drugs?
I don't want to be the one to tell him they don't do "that" test anymore.
"Using the whole fist doc???"