Interesting read...
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A little less guarded than usual and the anecdote from Cobb was especially interesting. Thanks for posting it.
"The Bible opens with a poem," he adds. "It's a beautiful piece of work, but it was never meant to be interpreted as I think some churches do." I ask him whether he still sees himself as a Christian, and he says he no longer identifies with any affiliation.
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"I think organized religion can have a mind-debilitating effect, because there is an exclusivity that can shut you out from being open to the world, to people, and energy, and love and acceptance." - AR
truer words cannot be spoken.
I was raised Lutheran but I saw the light shortly after getting out of the parent's house. No affiliation for me either. I find spirituality in all kinds of places from trout streams to live music to small little pebbles that float on water.
Same here. Though my dad's explanation is that "I got too much schooling", only half kidding.
Watched this on NFL Live this afternoon. I'm more impressed by Aaron the man as I am Aaron the player.
Tdog posted:I find spirituality in all kinds of places from trout streams to live music to small little pebbles that float on water.
A duck
Now I can see why he wanted to meet at her place.
So proud/jealous of @BrettHundley17's mustache. Zoom in, it's there. #goodguysdressedinblack #rememberthat #willsmithraps # https://t.co/LUAGnIbncq
— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) August 30, 2017
Some people have many layers......i.e. Rodgers.
Some don't.
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Oh there has got to be years of layers of spray on there.
That's the difference that's always been there for me. I enjoyed watching all of Starr (highlights), Farve, and Rodgers the football players. I respect Starr and Rodgers the men.
Good read. Rodgers has really grown over the years as a human being, much less as a player. And yes, this reformed Lutheran agrees with what he says about religion and how it can narrow a person's world.
Rodgers hasn't grown over the years. He hasn't changed at all. He's been the same guy since he was a kid. If anything he's learned how to tell people about him and when. He didn't gain life perspective because Jeff Telford got him ready for Green Bay. He learned that from his parents. And he's still careful not to remind anyone that's none of their business.
To think he's changed to fit what we want him to be is totally missing the guy. He isn't anyone's perception. He's just the best damned QB anyone has ever watched.
A lot of former players have/had a problem with how good he is. He was better than their interpretations of how good they felt they were. And Rodgers never said a word.
Cobb isn't telling anyone anything that hasn't been mentioned on these pages for years. They dig each other.
Fandame posted:Good read. Rodgers has really grown over the years as a human being, much less as a player. And yes, this reformed Lutheran agrees with what he says about religion and how it can narrow a person's world.
Must be a common theme with the reformed Lutheran I am also that way. I strongly agree that in some ways religion can narrow a person's world and thinking.
I agree with Chilijon, that we are watching one of the best if not THE best QB to ever play the game. A lot of people would argue that with me but what we are seeing from him is truly special and I am afraid many fans won't truly appreciate that until it is gone.
I loved the article. I used to like the guy, and now I really like the guy. Not just as a player but as a human being. Skippy can now go...well, you know.
I become increasingly convinced AR12 could be POTUS, if he so desires to take on the challenge when he retires.
Any Trumpesque nick names? Z-Rod? West Coast Rodger?
He might have trouble carrying Illinois, Minnesota, and Michigan?
"You screwed up twice when you didn't pick me. You're not really going to mess this up again are you?" The entirety of Rodgers campaign speech in Minny. Landslide victory.
Goldie was at the Welcome Back lunch?
Apparently a hello just wouldn't suffice! #Packers fan kisses @AaronRodgers12 on head at Welcome Back Lunch. He plays it off perfectly. pic.twitter.com/orb85VpFp6
— Josh Moser (@TheMozKnowz) August 30, 2017
Hungry5 posted:Goldie was at the Welcome Back lunch?
Apparently a hello just wouldn't suffice! #Packers fan kisses @AaronRodgers12 on head at Welcome Back Lunch. He plays it off perfectly. pic.twitter.com/orb85VpFp6
— Josh Moser (@TheMozKnowz) August 30, 2017
OK,OK, ya caught me..... 
If it really was Goldie, it would be for mature audiences only!
That look on Rodgers face is 100% PRICELESS!
I love how she patted him on the head too, like he's 12.
DING DING DING DING DING!!
I see what you did there H5
The Heckler posted:Fandame posted:Good read. Rodgers has really grown over the years as a human being, much less as a player. And yes, this reformed Lutheran agrees with what he says about religion and how it can narrow a person's world.
Must be a common theme with the reformed Lutheran I am also that way. I strongly agree that in some ways religion can narrow a person's world and thinking.
I agree with Chilijon, that we are watching one of the best if not THE best QB to ever play the game. A lot of people would argue that with me but what we are seeing from him is truly special and I am afraid many fans won't truly appreciate that until it is gone.
Wonderful to hear about all the reformed Lutherans who have discovered God absent the only way we can know anything about Jesus(from the bible)..you know...all the "judgy " stuff... As an "orthodox" Christian this just reinforces the reality that we just want a form of feeling good about ourselves without God..but Rodgers is still one hell of a qb. This article also explains the estrangement between him and his parents.
Which god?
Bible = history. Flavius Josephus. He reports. You decide.
I think from my perspective "which God" is found in the bible. I would agree however that history reaffirms the bible and Josephus is a great starting point.
Rodgers looks more like he was ready for that dinner to be over. Sitting around a bunch of ga ga Packer fans is probably not that enjoyable of an evening for him.
Sufferinginmn posted:I think from my perspective "which God" is found in the bible. I would agree however that history reaffirms the bible and Josephus is a great starting point.
So not the Koran or Talmud? Just the bible. Speaking of history, you should check out Christianity before the Nicean Creed. Kind of gums things up for you.
Oh, and before you start I have no issues with religion if it sustains and makes the believer a better person and citizen. If you believe others need to be "saved" or will burn in hell fire for not believing what you believe, you can **** right off.
It's harder to live in the mystery and yet it's much easier to be moral.
I might add I personally don't give two ****s any more about how people spout off about their religion but when you immediately assign Rodgers' family issues due to not aligning with your religious outlook, I'm going to tell you to **** off twice.
Talk about petty.
The F.E. Peters book, The Children of Abraham: Judaism, Christianity, Islam is an interesting read. He's been writing about all three faiths since the '70s. It has become quite popular to look at Islam in the same context of Judaism and Christianity. From an origins perspective.
Good grief henry...i was merely saying the separation between arod and his parents could be explained by his parernts view of what they hold dear...you know...the story of all of us.
You raised Josephus...i agree...look up up what a first century roman citizen... Jewish historian has to say about Jesus. As far as your antipathy towards others who think your not going to heaven...why should you care...
Joseph Campbell had been writing about the similarities since the 50's.
Sufferinginmn posted:Good grief henry...i was merely saying the separation between arod and his parents could be explained by his parernts view of what they hold dear...you know...the story of all of us.
You raised Josephus...i agree...look up up what a first century roman citizen... Jewish historian has to say about Jesus. As far as your antipathy towards others who think your not going to heaven...why should you care...
I personally don't care. What I care about is when those goodly beliefs you hold are transformed into zealotry, which hurts other people. So be goodly.
As far as Jesus, I hope he existed just like I hope Guatama Buddha or any other person of great wisdom existed. The wisdom of truly revolutionary social leaders is usually quite simple. It's the rest of us that **** it up.
As far as Rodgers' issues with his family, going for the religious angle first is pretty weak. Maybe Rodgers and/or his family are just a bunch of pricks.
