Tougher season than expected.

Thanks for the analysis 

That's after GAME 14- this past week was 15.

YATittle posted:

Thanks for the analysis 

Agreed, thanks Grignon!

Yeah that's why last seasons results create an SOS doesn't matter one iota.

Injuries, weather, lots of variables come into play.

As down as I was at one point, watching the push to get things done, stepping up their game for the December push has been a helluva ride.

1 game at a time now, as has been said everywhere here, every game is already a playoff game!

grignon posted:

That's after GAME 14- this past week was 15.

Well update the stats then dude!! 

Never look at last seasons SoS. It doesn't mean anything. Free Agency, draft, etc. Teams change very quickly now with players moving from team to team.

What matters is this year & not so much who you play, but when you play them. The Colts would get their ass kicked now. A month & a half ago, not so much

True enough.  I always laugh at the SoS at the beginning of the season.  No one knows how good any of the teams are going to be.  In 2014 the Panthers sucked, 2015 they're in the SB, 2016 back to sucking.  The NFC west, toughest division in the NFL, 2 years later, they're the worst division.   Those things make me happy   

You can always count on the Browns and the Jags sucking.   And Viking fans predicting a Super Bowl and then crawling back under the rock they crawled out from. 

6 of last year's 8 division winners will not only fail to repeat, they will likely not even make the tournament. Houston could make it 7 as they will probably have to win in Ten to beat out the Titans in week 17 and I don't think 9-7 will get them a wild card.

I think that's an unpresidented degree of turnover at the top of the standings.

I'm pretty sure New England will win the east until the corpses of Belichek and Brady have both turned to dust. Maybe even then.

Stats are for chumps.

Cos feelings don't need no validation?

Yes?

I agree with Boris more or less but stats ignore one thing.  Humans.

Henry posted:

Stats are for chumps.

Selective stats to further a Chump's argument, maybe

But some stats are worth consideration.

Appropriately, from The Dope Sheet:

• MM Led the Packers to their seventh consecutive playoff appearance last season, joining New England as the only two NFL teams to do so over that span. Has also led the team to eight playoff appearances in the last nine years (2007, 2009-15).
• MM Guided the Packers to top-10 finishes in scoring in eight straight seasons (2007-14), joining the Patriots as the only other team to accomplish the feat over that time; Packers finished first overall in scoring in 2014.
• MM's .647 winning percentage during the regular season (112-61-1) ranks No. 2 among active NFL head coaches (min. 50 games).
• MM Had 104 regular-season wins in his first 10 seasons as a head coach, ranking No. 3 in NFL history.

Packers are as good as we thought they were, Rodgers is the MVP, and ease up on McCarthy.

seeing something special with Montgomery

"I had 17 foster brothers; my mama taught me how to play football...I grew up a running back. I grew up watching Walter Payton and just the way they finish runs, and Earl Campbell—it's just in me."

From the H5 article:

One last thing on the Packers. Those same GMs who were raving about Rodgers had some strong words regarding the growing criticism of Packers head coach Mike McCarthy.

"Any criticism of him is foolish," one executive said. "If he was fired, he'd be at the top, or near the top, of every team's search. He's smart and adaptive, and he deals well with a strong personality in [Rodgers]. He hasn't been given a lot to deal with on the defensive side of the ball. He's one of the best coaches in the league."

With what we've seen so far with Montgomery do the Packers need to draft an RB early in the draft if they don't bring back Lacy?   

Hungry5 posted:

Packers are as good as we thought they were, Rodgers is the MVP, and ease up on McCarthy.

seeing something special with Montgomery

"I had 17 foster brothers; my mama taught me how to play football...I grew up a running back. I grew up watching Walter Payton and just the way they finish runs, and Earl Campbell—it's just in me."

I heard his interview with Deion Sanders yesterday. Deion asked him what his momma taught him and he said, "Don't be no punk!" I laughed at that one, sounds like a tough woman. Ty sounds like a good guy, seems very intelligent and thoughtful. 

This snippet on McCarthy stood out to me:  deals well with a strong personality in [Rodgers].

We've moved on, was a great learning experience for McCarthy.