Trading for Melvin Gordan?

Love Melvin but no.

The Sons of the Monongahela would approve of this.

Gutie would not.

The question I have for PFF is...how is he vs. STAAAAAAAAACKED boxes?

I'd give up a 4th round pick for him. 

Teams have learned not to pay RBs big money. Most RBs shoot their wad the first 3-4 years in the league. It sucks, but that's why Melvin is holding out. He knows in another year he'll be worth even less. 

Guy can't make it through a full season so I guess he would fit in.

Love to have him, he's only 26. Not sure RB is worth spending that kind of capital on when you have Aaron Rodgers though, especially when we already have a quality 2 deep backfield. You would really need to justify that expense by feeding the ball to Gordon often, shouldn't take touches away from other skill players merely to justify an investment. Zone blocking scheme is favorable to a lot of lesser RBs also, so I'm not sure we need Mel. I actually think our 3 deep backfield is going to be pretty good with this rookie in the mix, he seems perfect for this scheme. 

Pikes Peak posted:

Love Melvin but no.

Hate Melvin , but no.

What MichiganPacker2 said.

I thought we didn't have the  C.A.P. room to take on another BIG contract.   

As much as I would love the Packers to have a true stud RB I don't think they can afford the draft picks and cap room to pay him.  If I am spending big money I am continuing to build the D.

Not sure he would be that much of an upgrade over what they have. With MLF wanting to run more I think Gutekunst would've made a move by now if they felt they needed to, and could, upgrade the RB room.

On the other hand, Gutekunst studied the roster last offseason and thought the Packers were fine at guard and safety. I’m not ready to trust his judgement just yet. 

2 first round picks ? Not for a RB.

For Kuechly, CJ Mosely, or Roquon Smith, you bet

Like where the team is at RB and that's way too expensive anyway. 

I can see where Gordon's beef is. As a first rounder not  picked in the top 10, his 5th year option is a whopping 5.6 million a season. Knowing that the shelf life of RB's, even really good ones, is very limited, I can see why he'd be barking for a new deal. 

A pundit talking about this on one of the 4 letter networks made a good point. You're really better off as a RB going in the second round or lower. If your picked 11-32, and your really good, your likely screwed money wise for 5 seasons. 

Packdog posted:

2 first round picks ? Not for a RB.

For Kuechly, CJ Mosely, or Roquon Smith, you bet

You just offended Luke Kuechly and Roquan Smith.

Unless Sneiderbrenner usurps the throne from Gutenheist there is zero chance this happens.

heyward posted:

On the other hand, Gutekunst studied the roster last offseason and thought the Packers were fine at guard and safety. I’m not ready to trust his judgement just yet. 

So moves for the sake of moves?

If you don't see an upgrade in the available pool, you patiently continue to search.

No F'ing way! We've got 3 great RBs with ZERO tire wear....

As injured as Melvin has been, he's still #2, I believe, in rushing attempts. Very heavily used when healthy.

and with Nijman paving the way, we could have 3 1,000 yard rushers.  

All 3 will fuse together and become Jonesotron. 

Hungry5 posted:

heyward posted:

On the other hand, Gutekunst studied the roster last offseason and thought the Packers were fine at guard and safety. I’m not ready to trust his judgement just yet. 

So moves for the sake of moves?

If you don't see an upgrade in the available pool, you patiently continue to search.

There were plenty of moves to be made a year ago; Gutekunst just didn't make them. That he thought Brice and McCray were legit NFL starters has to make you wonder about his ability to evaluate talent. I also think people are giving him too much credit for this year's free agency. Any dope can spend $180 million. Let's see whether he actually gets what he paid for this time.

YOSH!!!!! 

The WI-ite in me says yes... he’s my favorite Badger player ever. Born and raised. Nothing would make me happier than seeing that kid running on Lambeau turf and leaping into the crowd. 

But it’s not the right thing to do in today’s NFL. 

heyward posted:

There were plenty of moves to be made a year ago; Gutekunst just didn't make them. That he thought Brice and McCray were legit NFL starters has to make you wonder about his ability to evaluate talent.

Plenty? Like what? Naming Brice and McCray without a who would replace either is, as Thompson says, fantasy football.

I agree with those who don’t think the team wants or needs him. Besides there are Too many good players coming up on contracts next year. I don’t think our cap could support another high priced FA. 

The trade cost is manageable- but the contract he wants is not. Bell got 4 years $52.5 M, with incentives to $61M. The Packer can’t afford that... not with what’s coming. 

Trade Josh Jones and a mid round pick?   Probably still too high a contract for Gordon.  

Trophies posted:

No F'ing way! We've got 3 great RBs with ZERO tire wear....

As injured as Melvin has been, he's still #2, I believe, in rushing attempts. Very heavily used when healthy.

One potentially great RB, an average guy that will eat some carries and a rookie that will probably be something between Darrell Thompson and Ahman Green. 

That said, **** no to giving up future draft capitol for another RB. 

"something between Darrell Thompson and Ahman Green"

That's quite a chasm. 

NOBODY could run out of bounds faster than Darrel Thompson.  He was unstoppable . . . until he got to the sidelines.

I was always more of a Vince Workman kind of guy

Tony Fisher was always open out of the backfield on third down.  

Report: Cowboys, Ezekiel Elliott situation could go “sideways” fast

In response to our report that Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott has said privately that he intends to not show up for training camp absent a new contract, Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports has put some meat on the bone.

In a series of tweets, Robinson reports that Elliott hasn’t made a firm decision to hold out, but that he is “absolutely thinking it through and definitely wants an extension in the works.”

Robinson also believes that, if the Cowboys aren’t “proactive” about a deal, “this could go sideways fast.”

“It hasn’t yet,” Robinson explains. “This will be an important week.”

Although the notion that Elliott hasn’t made a “firm decision” to hold out doesn’t completely and totally mesh with our report, it confirms that something is up, at a time when it had been believed that Elliott would not make a stand. And it’s possible that Elliott is privately telling people he plans to hold out in order to get the Cowboys to take the situation seriously.

The Cowboys have shown little urgency to extend Elliott’s deal, due in part to the fact that he’s under contract for two more years. This has prompted speculation in some circles that they won’t try to extend him, this year or maybe next year.

While I can sympathize with Gordon's situation, Elliot has 2 YEARS left on his deal and he was a top 10 pick, he'll still be getting more money then Gordon based on that alone. 

It would be lovely to see this "go sideways". 

Would prefer ass-backwards.

I heard this on some talk show today, IF Gordon is out for a significant time the Chargers can still make the playoffs....IF Zeke is out for any significant time the Cowboys are toast.  True?

Chargers have Rivers.

Cowboys have Prescott. 

"This" is the year for Rivers.

Prescott has really fallen off the cliff from that rookie year. Ya, an absent Elliot doesn't help, but seems like teams figured him out.