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1. Dual possession. (it wasn't)
2. The other ref wasn't signaling touchback. Simply clock stop. (I don't know what he was signaling. It wasn't touchback. But it sure as hell wasn't touchdown.)
3. Review can't review possession in that case. (True per rules) It was simply checking was the ball dropped. Since nothing conclusively showed that, the play on the field was upheld.
4. Aren't you happier knowing that the NFL saves 30M over 7 years by having scab refs? My god thats almost 4.5m a year in savings for the poor NFL. Ignore the $1,000,000,000 sponsorship recently signed with Bud. You should be happier knowing the NFL saves money. Of course you are. (The NFL is all about one thing. And it ain't integrity or protecting the sheild)

Ta-da!

Bet the house that it closely matches the first 3.
I literally could not sleep last night for about two hours after the game. Felt like a fukkin zombie.

Never been more dissapointed in the "integrity" of a sport.

If the shoe was on the other foot and the packers had benefited. No way I could feel happy or good about it.

The Walden call and the shields call were a couple of the worst calls I had ever seen....until the final call of the game officially trumped any call in the history of bad calls.

I am becoming disinterested in the NFL>

Don't believe it cannot happen Rog....The strike season that cancelled baseball ruined it for me....and I have not been back...nor spent a dime on that product.

Fairplay and sportsmanship is what we teach our kids. The NFL debacled itself to me last night
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Originally posted by CAPackFan95:
1. Dual possession. (it wasn't)
2. The other ref wasn't signaling touchback. Simply clock stop. (I don't know what he was signaling. It wasn't touchback. But it sure as hell wasn't touchdown.)
3. Review can't review possession in that case. (True per rules) It was simply checking was the ball dropped. Since nothing conclusively showed that, the play on the field was upheld.
4. Aren't you happier knowing that the NFL saves 30M over 7 years by having scab refs? My god thats almost 4.5m a year in savings for the poor NFL. Ignore the $1,000,000,000 sponsorship recently signed with Bud. You should be happier knowing the NFL saves money. Of course you are. (The NFL is all about one thing. And it ain't integrity or protecting the sheild)

Ta-da!

Bet the house that it closely matches the first 3.


1.It was not dual possession
2.There were conflicting signals, but just about everyone can see these refs dont know what they are doing, so this point is a wash
3. It was an incomplete pass then
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Originally posted by Boris:
Unless they overturn the ruling giving the Packers the win, their exPlanation isn't necessary


I'm with you. I don't want to hear or see anything except an overturning of the rule. Any explanation they make will just being maddening BS!

I've already heard that the officials on the field can discuss and make the decision which must stand. The review can only determine a completion which was deemed to be to Seattle.

This is WRONG WRONG WRONG. Everyone involved in this decision is wrong and blowing smoke up our ass. There are no two ways about it.

I'm not the only one that believes this. Every pundit that I've heard or read has stated that the Packers won the game.
First of all, the overturning will never happen as GD says.

Secondly, the funny thing is that the regular officials make a ton of mistakes and I could have seen them blow this call also. Don't get me wrong, these replacements are horrible and they are affecting the game outside of that one play. They affected the SF as far as I am concerned also.

I feel bad for the Packers team and as a fan I know we were robbed, but keep I am really trying to keep it in perspective that its just a game. 20 years ago I used to make myself sick over things like this (and a lot less), finally I learned it wasn't healthy. I screamed for about 10 seconds after that horrible call and then saw the look on my kids face and realized what I was teaching him.

Finally, I am a true believer in looking for the silver lining. The Packers played a great second half, they have a fairly easy schedule of a while and this should hopefully focus them on running the table for the next few games. Also, if this gets the lockout setttled I think the Packers will benefit as much as any other team since they have a precision passing game that to some extent is being effected by the amount of downfield contact that is going on.

Yes, I woke up this morning and my backside was sore, but time to move on.
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Originally posted by GratefulPack:
Secondly, the funny thing is that the regular officials make a ton of mistakes and I could have seen them blow this call also.

It's not just about that they are missing calls, and yes the regular refs miss calls too, it is about their inability to keep up with the pace of the game. The blown final call had neither ref truly in position to make the call and neither was adamant about their call when they did finally make it. They looked at each other like, ah, what you got?.
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Unless they overturn the ruling giving the Packers the win, their explanation isn't necessary


exactly. I don't need more lies or for them to tell me I didn't see what I saw.

beer gone, vodka gone, whiskey gone - gotta restock today. that whiskey on the rocks to end the nite shoulda been had with a victory cigar - they ****ed me outta that too.
GratefulPack On any other Tuesday I would tend to agree with you. MNF has been real bad with flags flying in the past. But this is bigger than that. Even NBA players are tweeting no more NFL games for them.
The leagues actions and lack of action caused this strike which led to these debacles. The league cant stand by their decisions and these refs both. What are they gonna say?
"We stand behind the replacements referees&all their calls. We believe the integrity of the game is a solid as it ever was. Once cooler heads prevail the fans, coaches, and players will have to realize that these refs are as good as it gets"
The striking refs are all shopping for time share condos in Hawaii today, they are gonna end up the winners
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Originally posted by Hungry5:
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Originally posted by GratefulPack:
Secondly, the funny thing is that the regular officials make a ton of mistakes and I could have seen them blow this call also.

It's not just about that they are missing calls, and yes the regular refs miss calls too, it is about their inability to keep up with the pace of the game. The blown final call had neither ref truly in position to make the call and neither was adamant about their call when they did finally make it. They looked at each other like, ah, what you got?.


I agree, the other bad calls (roughing the passer and PI) actually bothered me more since they were easier calls.

I noticed the placement of the officials also and then tried to figure out what they saw and they were definately in poor position. The back judge was on the other end of the field and didn't even start to come over it seemed until after the catch. The funny thing is that he was the one that was going to call it an interception. The other guy was out of the end zone, but he did have a better view of it from his perspective. I firmly believe the crowd and all the Seahawk players crowding around afterwards effected his judgement. If this happened on the other side of the field the call might have been right. The biggest mistake on their part was not getting together and talking about it. Going through what the rule is and what everyone saw. This is what the regular refs have been good at for the last few years.

Finally, I don;t understand if it is reviewable whether he caught the ball how its not reviewable whether he caught the ball. I know the distinction is they are only allowed to look at whether the ball touched the ground or they were out of bounds, but I think we will see a change in the rule book to allow this type of play to be reviewed.

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