Wed Practice Report: One Jennings sits One Jennings Practices

‏@TyDunne
McCarthy: Watched Mike Neal a lot. In great shape. Not winded. Fresh legs. Better indication where he's at tomorrow.



@WesHod
#Packers Injury Report: Greg Jennings (groin) did not participate. Davon House (shoulder) was full participant with M.D. Jennings (neck)

Good to hear. I'm guessing House and Neal both sport their sweats on Sunday, with both suiting up for Houston.

No idea what will happen with #85 since this will likely hang around all year.

RE: GJ...


‏@TomSilverstein
#Packers WR Greg Jennings said he won't be coming back from his groin injury until he's much closer to 100% than last time.


sounds like this will be a while

Yeah, I'm gonna guess after the bye, at the earliest.

Let Jennings sit for a while. No point in rushing him back. Knowing he will not play in advance may benefit the game plan. And it also frees up another spot on the game day roster for someone else.

MM said yesterday he was seriously debating just shutting Jennings down for awhile until he's fully healed vs going through this song-n-dance where he's not ever 100%.

Fine by me. I understand it's hurting his pocket book to be out in a contract year but he'll do this team and himself a lot better to just come back when this is fully healed.

Neal wants to play on Sunday

He gained 4 1/2 pounds of muscle while suspended. Ya, I'd say he worked out. A lot.

Now he must really be strong.

Wonder if he can jump out of a pool standing flat-footed.

Depends upon how deep the pool is I suppose.

I jumped out of my gene pool.

I married a white girl.

As long as he passes tape and practice muster, why not turn him loose? I can't see where it would be detrimental to the team in the long run, it gives him a 'tune-up' before the Houston game, and some fresh legs on the line would be good.

I mentioned in another thread Jennings should be on rest & rehab until the bye week, at the minimum. Re-evaluate when practices resume after the break, and make a decision from there.
It's a shame if it actually 'costs' him money, but the NFL is a hard business. I couldn't see him getting much more than a 2 year deal if he stays with the Pack, and it's unlikely teams would spend large to acquire him as a FA.

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#Packers WR Greg Jennings said he won't be coming back from his groin injury until he's much closer to 100% than last time.

When's the funeral? :toobad:

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Originally posted by Timmy!:
As long as he passes tape and practice muster, why not turn him loose? I can't see where it would be detrimental to the team in the long run, it gives him a 'tune-up' before the Houston game, and some fresh legs on the line would be good.

I agree with you, but if I was to make a counter argument it would be injury insurance in case one of the DL get hurt on Sunday and a second point would be his injury history and that he has a tendency to go full tilt as soon as he's given the chance. The Packers under TT/MM have historically taken their time easing players in to regular season game speed.

The one thing about being out for a while, is it gives another person an opportunity to take your job. This has to be on Jennings mind - as well as the money this is likely costing him. From TT's perspective, it couldn't work out better. He gets a chance to find out if Cobb can take his place, while Jennings price tag takes a hit - to the point where GB can afford him - again. TT & MM know what Jennings can do in their offense. The risk for Jennings is going to be production in another offense - to the point where he can fulfiill the new contract he will sign if he leaves GB.

Good to hear about Neal. Hopefully he stays healthy. Maybe IR Jennings with the option to bring him back.

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Originally posted by packerboi:
Neal wants to play on Sunday

He gained 4 1/2 pounds of muscle while suspended. Ya, I'd say he worked out. A lot.

Would be nice to see a contribution from Neal. Any contribution. Any at all.

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Originally posted by packerboi:
Neal wants to play on Sunday

He gained 4 1/2 pounds of muscle while suspended. Ya, I'd say he worked out. A lot.

If true, it might give us a good idea why he was suspended in the first place. If even possible with PED's, that's a ridiculous amount of muscle to gain in 1 month.

Haha,yeah I was wondering if a guy with Olympic weight lifting strength who just took a month off for "ADD meds" really want's to come back looking even more jacked.

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A workout warrior, Neal said he added four pounds of muscle to his lower body while working out for 2½ weeks of his suspension in Tampa, Fla.

FWIW

sadly, I added 4 lbs over the weekend but not an ounce of it is muscle.

I might be preaching to the choir here, but the general rule is that gaining 2 lbs of pure muscle in a month is about the limit a person can do. That of course is from somebody with fantastic genetics, a super clean diet and a superior weight training effort. Few people even come close to the diet/training portion of that and there's nothing you can do about genetics outside of taking PED's.

There's also a limit to that. If you are meeting the above criteria, you're only going to gain so much muscle. At two lbs per month, that's obviously 24 lbs of muscle a year. When you do the math, you can see that the human body's ability to build muscle will come to a crawl, if not completely stop over time at some point.

As for Neal's claim, gaining 4 lbs of muscle in 2.5 weeks seems very, very far-fetched to me. He may have gained 4 lbs, but 3 of them is probably fat or water weight.

Just my 2 cents on the topic.

How exactly would he weigh (gauge) that he added that "muscle" weight to his lower body?

love muscle

Neal's PED?

Neal sounds like he would be better inclined to be a weight lifter then a football player. There are plenty of defensive linemen that look way out of shape that kick butt on the field.

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Originally posted by Hungry5:
How exactly would he weigh (gauge) that he added that "muscle" weight to his lower body?

The only way to really measure muscle gain is body fat testing coupled with tape measurements. The most accurate way to test body fat is through an autopsy, which is generally not recommended. Next is Hydrostatic testing, where you are submerged in water. Finding facilities that offer this is hard, but I'd imagine an NFL player would be able to find a place. The most common test used is caliper testing, but even these generally have a 3%-4% body fat variance that is based quite a bit on the skill level of the person administering the test. The lowest grade test is bioelectric impedance (Think bathroom scale that offers body fat percentage with it). These tests shoot electric currents through your body and measure how fast it takes to complete a circuit. The numbers change dramatically based on how much water you have in your body. The more water you have, the "leaner" you are. In short, they are not accurate at all.

So again, I have a hard time believing somebody when they announce they gained 4 lbs of muscle in 2.5 weeks in their lower body. Not only is it damn near impossible to gain that much pure muscle in that amount of time, testing it is a very difficult process with many variables.

That said, gaining 4 lbs in 2.5 weeks is easy enough, especially when a person is intaking more calories coupled with heavy lifting. But even then, the weight gain isn't all muscle by any stretch of the imagination.

Jennings officially out for Sunday

In the end, does it really matter. As if no one here has ever stretched the truth.

This season is Neal's last shot at staying with the team. He won't get a fourth season if he doesn't perform this year.

I really think given the good offseason he had and the solid rotation the team has on the DL now, Neal finally earns his paycheck.

He had to get stronger. He wasn't meating kworsts standards.

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Originally posted by Hungry5:
Neal's PED?

He revealed recently it was Ritalin. Prescribed.

Thought it was Adderall?

Which is basically the same thing.

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Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:
Thought it was Adderall?

Correct. Not Ritalin. And he was prescribed Adderall. He was taking it as prescribed. He just didn't tell the NFL.

Oops. Right.

(Amphetamine based either way.)

The Adderall story came out of Neal's camp. The NFL, due to confidentiality policies, doesn't comment on those things. So... I guess you can choose to believe Neal's story or not.

Personally, I find it a bit difficult to believe that the NFL would suspend a player for 4 games because he failed to notify the league that he was taking medicine prescribed to him by a doctor. You would think that would be easily cleared up.

When you consider all the reports about how strong Neal is and how he's a weight room warrior, well, let's just say I'm a bit skeptical.

I've been wrong before though.

Pakrz - you don't believe Mike Neal, but you do believe Lance Armstrong

I'm curious - What's the difference in these two PED cases ?