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Grave Digger posted:
DH13 posted:

He was running on an injured ankle almost the whole 2015 season.  His rise is really not that surprising when you look at what he did as a rookie in 2014.  Still, considering how hard it must have been on him to show the way he did in 2015, it is still impressive he was able to return to his upward trajectory.

Yep. It's why it's so important to look at the context of a bad season and why prospects, especially high picks, should be given plenty the full 4 (or even 5) years to develop.

No that's apples and oranges on Adams.  He showed his freshman year and was injured his second.  It wasn't proof he needed time to develop.  He was just injured.

The idea that where you're drafted should give you automatic "development time" no matter how badly you play is b.s.  We almost lost Reggie Gilbert to that line of thinking, to Kyler Fackrell and his esteemed 3rd round draft status, no less.

Yeah just wait.  Any year now Fackrell will dominate.  Just needs 4 years is all. 

Going to keep disagreeing on this as long as you keep bringing it up GD, and no, Davante Adams isn't Exhibit A.   Fackrell is.

 

Last edited by Pistol GB

I could hear the ref announcing the penalty while Adams was doing his sideline interview, but all I heard was "...after the TD, personal foul, #91..." but couldn't hear the rest of it.
Donnerson and #68 were pushing each other in the end zone, so I assume Donnerson either gave him a shot to the head or pushed him down.

The time out was for MM to get an explanation from the refs why the ball was placed at our 45 after the OOB kickoff. I don't understand it either, since they added an additional 15 yards, which seems to be a double penalty for a single play.

Timmy! posted:

I could hear the ref announcing the penalty while Adams was doing his sideline interview, but all I heard was "...after the TD, personal foul, #91..." but couldn't hear the rest of it.
Donnerson and #68 were pushing each other in the end zone, so I assume Donnerson either gave him a shot to the head or pushed him down.

The time out was for MM to get an explanation from the refs why the ball was placed at our 45 after the OOB kickoff. I don't understand it either, since they added an additional 15 yards, which seems to be a double penalty for a single play.

A kick that goes out of bounds is an automatic penalty.

the ball is automatically placed 25 yards from the point of the kick.

the unsportsmanlike penalty was enforced on the kickoff.

meaning the Packers were kicking off from their own 20 yard line. The kick went out of bounds.

therefore, 20 + 25 = 45 yard line.

 I hope it makes sense the way I just explained it..

EDIT for clarity: There were actually 2 penalties assessed on that kickoff. The original on 91 for being stupid, pushing the spot of kickoff back to the 20 yard line, and the second on Scott for being even stupider for kicking the ball oob.

Last edited by GrainBelt66

Letโ€™s simplify. A kick off out of bounds is spotted at the 40. Tack on a dumbass going rouge on a dead ball for no reason. 15 more yards. 

Dont ever, ever, ever kick the ball out of bounds on a kick off in 2018. Again. EVER!!! Itโ€™s damn near impossible to let the return team get to the 30 yard line if you are doing things right. So giving away the 40 is bull**** Zook!

ChilliJon posted:

Letโ€™s simplify. A kick off out of bounds is spotted at the 40. Tack on a dumbass going rouge on a dead ball for no reason. 15 more yards. 

Dont ever, ever, ever kick the ball out of bounds on a kick off in 2018. Again. EVER!!! Itโ€™s damn near impossible to let the return team get to the 30 yard line if you are doing things right. So giving away the 40 is bull**** Zook!

I agree with this. Scott cost the team potentially 25 yards of field position by kicking the ball OOB.

But, he is young, has a killer leg and can only improve IMO.

Fandame posted:

Perhaps they need to run behind Marcedes more often. That's supposed to be his strength and why he was signed. Gutterkiss also needs to find a way to hang on to Tonyan based on the last game. He just has burst and seemed sure-handed. I didn't get a chance to see his blocking, but if it's adequate keep him and cut Kendricks. I hope we get to see more of him next week.

With 2 veteran TEs ahead of anyone, if they keep 3 (and I think they will), it wouldn't shock me to see them go youth/development with a 3rd TE.  Maybe even 1 on the PS.

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