Who shot AR?

"Or that second baseman (can't remember his name) who suddenly could not make the throw to first."

 

 

Steve Sax, Chuck Knoblach. Also catcher Mackey Sasser had to retire because he couldn't throw it back to the pitcher.

Thanks.  It was Sax I was thinking of, but I totally forgot about Knoblauch, although I think I remember he was able to overcome it?

'Twas beauty that killed the beast

I might equate this slump that Rodgers is in to almost something like "shellshock" from a football standpoint. He's completely lost faith in everything around him, and it's causing him to lose some confidence in himself.   He's hurrying throws when he doesn't need to and he's rarely just getting set in the pocket and throwing with good mechanics.  He wants to get out of the pocket, and can't and he's not adjusting well to that defensive tactic at the moment.

 

I think he'll work himself out of this, but even once he does get out of this funk, I just think there are so many other weaknesses on this team being exposed that even if Rodgers gets back to his old self, this is not going to be a championship level team this season.

Here's some breaking news that's mmmm... not breaking to probably anyone but

 

 

This offense is vanilla as fu**.  

From SI last week:

 

According to charting metrics from Pro Football Focus, the Packers had run “11” personnel—one running back, one tight end and three receivers—on 76.6% of their plays. It was a major increase in one personnel package for the Packers and a huge bump over the league average of 51.4%.

 

So how to beat GB is really quite simple. Jam the WR's (who play soft) on the line and punch them in the mouth. Physically rip them off their routes. Then keep Rodgers in the pocket and don't rush off the edge where he can escape and make a play on the run. Watch the pocket collapse because no WR is getting open or their just completely thrown off their route. Rodgers than falls in a heap or makes a crap pass because he has nowhere to go with the ball and refuses to even think about throwing a semi-risky pass.

 

Rinse.

 

Repeat.

 

It doesn't take an defensive guru to figure out how to scheme against an offense who runs the same fu**ing set over and over again.

I don't think the solution of HOW to beat this offense has ever been in question. It's pretty much the formula teams have used since 2009. Actually successfully executing that gameplan has always been the problem, teams haven't really been able to stop this O. There have been less than a dozen instances, before this season that teams have just flat out stifled this offense since 2009. Either execute perfectly on D or your offense better execute perfectly and score more points.

There's no reason that you can point to that is causing this lack of production other than it being mental. This team has lost players to injury, they've moved coaches around, they have played good defenses and bad defenses and the consistency has always been there. They're beating themselves right now more than other teams are. Winnig cures everything...win the 1 on 1, win the LOS, win on 3rd down, win the turnover battle, win the game.

Not sure who shot AR, but clearly he was shot in the face.

First paragraph is spot on.

 

Second paragraph is premature.  Remember 2010.  People said the exact same thing halfway through that season.

 

But really, why even go there right now? Let's just see if the offense can work through this funk they are in.  As others have said, this team was a muffed onside kick away from the SB last year and there's no way Jordy's absence alone completely changes that.

To pboi's point.  Without Nelson, we do not have a single receiver that can beat his man 1 on 1.   We don't have a single receiver or tight end that regularly gets snaps that scares you deep.  We just don't.  We don't typically to run the crossing patterns or rub routes that you see many teams run to get people open for those intermediate gains.  

 

Our options, as I see it are:

1. Keep on doing exactly what we always do

2. Try running some more routes designed to help receivers that can't otherwise beat man coverage

3. Get 83 and or 84 in the game more simply to create the threat of a deep option. 

 

Thus far, we've done #1 and there's no sign of that changing any time soon.

But yet Teddy is such a guru when it comes to drafting WR's

We do what we do....

Very good post! Look at Carolina. They lost their #1 WR in preseason, but have tweaked their offense to compensate. They anticipated that they would have to change & did so immediately. We on the other hand have steadfastly stuck to our system, even though all the signs were there that once defenses figured out how to play us, we were going to have problems.

Capers probably couldn't figure it out.

 

 

I wonder what their % was last season for that set? I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying it was around 75% of the time.

 

Damn you, Maynard! 

I would have posted the exact same thing!  I guess great minds think alike. 

From the same article cited by pboi:

When I wrote about Green Bay’s stagnant passing offense early last season, the Packers’ primary issue was a constricting sameness in their formations. According to charting metrics from Pro Football Focus, the Packers had run “11” personnel—one running back, one tight end and three receivers—on 76.6% of their plays. It was a major increase in one personnel package for the Packers and a huge bump over the league average of 51.4%.

Article link here:  http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/11/...ackers-mike-mccarthy

 

And from from the article linked to in that quote:

Again, the trend has been severe. In 2013, per Football Outsiders' stats, Green Bay ran "11" personnel on 68 percent of their plays.

 

In 2012, it was 54 percent.

 

ESPN Stats & Info has Green Bay with "11" personnel on 46 percent of their snaps in 2011, and just 35.6 percent of their snaps in 2010.

 

So, over the last five seasons, you have one team running one formation more than twice as often as they used to, and formation diversity has gone right out the window.

And Janis! still doesn't get it?

This is what Brady says about losing his #1 WR

 

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"When someone's really integral to part of basically everything you're doing, and then you lose that person, it may take a little bit to kind of figure out how you can move things around and get comfortable with what you're doing, because you want to have a lot of confidence in the things that you're doing," Brady said. 

"That's just the way kind of it is. There's nothing that's really seamless when you lose a great player. When it's someone that's been the leading receiver on your team for multiple years and you lose them, it's not like you go, 'OK, well, let just put someone else in.' He's too good of a player for that. You've just got to kind of find your way to make some adjustments. I think we just made some critical plays when we needed to, which was really important down the stretch, certainly defensively, and special teams we did. And on offense I thought we just did enough"

A little different perspective than when we lost Jordy, no real talk of adjustments. 

I'm no sports psychologist, but AR's play and body language suggests that he doesn't have the same zest for life that he once had, has grown withdrawn and depressed, and even feels disspirited if not betrayed. A lot like how Blair Kiel felt when he learned his daughter was "dating" Goalline.

I really miss Ty. Not sure where he's at on ARs trust scale but there's not a lot of DBs that jam him on the line. In his limited snaps the kid has shown he knows where to find holes in the defense. Would like to see him get snaps Sunday.

I think he's been a bigger piece of the puzzle than we initially realized.  After he got hurt is when the wheels really came off.  Adams and Cobb, failing.

Does he trust  AR? 

Yes. Sort of a repeat of 2010, at a smaller scale, when MM decided to retool the passing game to feature Finley following his blowing up in late 2009, to then see Finley lost for the season early on. Took them until the last 4 games to sort things out.

 

IMO whatever new wrinkles were planned for this season were premised on having a full complement of WRs with two Swiss Army knife types in Cobb and Monty. Haven't had Cobb, Jones, Adams and Monty on the field together for an entire game since week three if I'm not mistaken.

Jordy was the one receiver without an exploitable weakness.

 

Cobb is a hobbit, and dinged up.

Adams is not fast, and dinged up.

Jones wishes he was as fast as Adams.

Abbrederis is small, and dinged up.

Montgomery is raw, and dinged up.

Janis is Janis.

 

Jordy is God.

How did we ever win a game after he got injured?!?!

MM was a geneous, now he is stupid

He was never either. With Jordy (and Jennings before) they had a receiver who could consistently win matchups with a second guy (Jordy, then Cobb) they could move around to get a good matchup and a strong plugger of a possession guy (Jones, now Adams) who would draw a lesser corner and do the equivalent of a post-up on him.  

 

With Jordy out, Cobb plays his same roll because that's best for everyone, but Adams can't replace Jordy and the offense hasn't really adjusted. Add in the offensive line struggles and Rodgers' conservative ball tendencies with teams also working to contain his improvisation and the offense looks stagnant.

Maybe Eddie ate him?

I used to prefer "black avalanche" for Eddy and I'm not baggin on him because I don't really think his weight is the real issue but Feast Mode is pretty frickin funny.

 

Rodgers needs a slump-buster.

 

You're playing and you think everything is going fine. Then one thing goes wrong. And then another. And another. You try to fight back, but the harder you fight, the deeper you sink. Until you can't move... you can't breathe... because you're in over your head. Like quicksand.

Like a Mark Grace slump-buster??

 

"A slump-buster is if a team's in a slump, or if you personally are in a slump, you gotta find the fattest, gnarliest, grossest chick and you just gotta lay the wood to her. And when you do that, you're just gonna have instant success. And it could also be called jumping on a grenade for the team."

 

Urban Dictionary

That Mark Grace is all class...

OK, so the Vikings are coming a perfect time, right?

I'm sure there are slump buster candidates in MIN.    

BK doesn't like it when his daughter dates Wisconsin residents?

 

That's bad.

Herd Peter King today and he said he watched a lot of Packers/Lions game.  He saw several things:  OLine is underperforming, run game lacking and his biggest speculation is that Rodgers is losing confidence in Cobb - He sited that on 9 straight pass plays Rodgers avoided throwing to Cobb and chose Adams.  He targeted Adams on 22 throws.  It was pointed out that Adams caught only 9!   So...is King right, beats me.  But Cobb may be hurt more than we think and therefore unable to get more production. 

Yeah, and the whole "He's 45 and she's 22" didn't bother me a bit.

 

If your wife signs off on this, I'm good with it. 

You want to watch, don't you?