Needs his own thread....Here's a cool stat to kick it off
Xavier McKinney forced a tight window on a league-leading 30.8% of his targets when aligned as a safety last season (min. 20 targets).
— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) March 11, 2024
McKinney will join a Packers team that forced a tight window on just 12.4% of pass attempts in 2023, 3rd-lowest in the NFL.#GoPackGo https://t.co/0jA1D7xi3M pic.twitter.com/3LbBnO27dI
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Yah, but can he make wine?
A way to look at the Xavier McKinney deal:
— Ross Uglem (@RossUglem) March 12, 2024
Nick Collins' last extension: 4 yrs/$26.8M in 2010. $6.7M per. The 2011 cap was $120.3M. That's 5.6% of the cap.
Adrian Amos FA deal: 4/$36M | $9M AAV | $188.2M cap | 4.8% of cap
X: 4/$68M | $17M AAV | $255.4M cap | 6.6% of cap pic.twitter.com/xHOex7gIoL
Turn on Sirius XM channel 88. Our newest safety is on right now
@Floridarob posted:Kirwin asking Mckinney if he gave the Giants one last shot. SMH.
They hate it that Green Bay got better
crappy interview. the two bozos doing the interview were more interested about the Giants butt hurt than anything else. They were asking him if he can work in the system the Packers run. Really? What system is that? The one nobody has seen yet the new DC is running. What a stupid question.
X had a good response too....he can play in any system.
The one good question was about him having a relationship with Ainsley from when he was a freshman in Bama...
They know how good he is....Kirwan definitely likes the Giants....probably because he likes NY and the restaurants there....
One year we saw Pat K, Randy Cross and Pete Carroll come into Ben Benson's After the draft. That was when Cheaty Petey was in his last year at USC
The plays X makes are scheme independent...he has a nose for the ball, he knows when to break on the ball and he catches it a lot. That's not because the scheme, that's because he studies film and his brain works fast enough to process it.
That's the kind of thing that separates the Ronnie Lott's and Charles Woodson's from a lot of other elite athletes.
Not that X is either of those dudes, but he's on another level than most S in the league. That is why he got paid...and if it wasn't the Packers it would have been someone else. Promise.
@RobDemovsky:
Xavier McKinney’s contract: 4 years/$67 million
'24: $23M signing bonus, $1.45M base
'25: $8.5M roster bonus due 3rd day of league year, $2.75M base
'26: $8.5M RB 3rd day of league year, $4.25M base
'27: $16.15M base
$400K workout bonus, $200K per game roster bonus each year
The Packers like putting roster bonuses into multiyear deals so they can later convert them into signing bonuses and shift the cap hits. They're expecting Xavier McKinney to play two seasons minimum and likely more.
— Jason B. Hirschhorn (@by_JBH) March 13, 2024
This is a much "realer" contract than that of Josh Jacobs. https://t.co/IpzefydgTt
@ilcuqui posted:@RobDemovsky:
Xavier McKinney’s contract: 4 years/$67 million
'24: $23M signing bonus, $1.45M base
'25: $8.5M roster bonus due 3rd day of league year, $2.75M base
'26: $8.5M RB 3rd day of league year, $4.25M base
'27: $16.15M base
$400K workout bonus, $200K per game roster bonus each year
Based on the Spotrac information, it looks like it's really a 3 year, 50 million dollar contract. Minimum base salaries until 2027. McKinney has roster bonuses of 8.5 million each of the next two years which agents put in to force decisions early in the free agent cycle for each year, but the roster bonus is absent in 2027.
Dead cap vs. cap hit is even next year. Then, the Packers would save 8 million of cap hit if they moved on after 2025, but 17 million of cap hit if they did it in 2027.
@Chongo posted:The Packers like putting roster bonuses into multiyear deals so they can later convert them into signing bonuses and shift the cap hits. They're expecting Xavier McKinney to play two seasons minimum and likely more.
— Jason B. Hirschhorn (@by_JBH) March 13, 2024
This is a much "realer" contract than that of Josh Jacobs. https://t.co/IpzefydgTt
Looks like we posted the contract info simultaneously.
LMAO, X is learning Packer history:
Ya kid. Ya ain't getting 15. Ever
What number should I get?Keep that 2 9
— Xavier McKinney (@mckinney15__) March 13, 2024
Or bring that 1 5 mf 🤔
Bart had 1 5… playas F up sometimes too 🤣🤣 my bad
— Xavier McKinney (@mckinney15__) March 13, 2024
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Packers Wire with some fantastic Xavier McKinney highlights and commentary
https://packerswire.usatoday.c...-breakdown-analysis/
"It’s easy to see why the Packers coveted a player like McKinney. For starters, he is only 24 and has plenty of years of high-level play left in him. He is also versatile from an alignment standpoint, which is something Green Bay tends to seek out. McKinney is comfortable dropping into the box, lining up in the slot, or at post safety.
Hafley can choose when to use McKinney as a chess piece but expect him to spend a lot of time roaming in center field. From what I’ve seen, McKinney is a good communicator who is rarely out of position.
As a run defender, he’s aggressive when coming downhill and uses his play strength and length to wrap up ball carriers with minimal missed tackles.
In coverage, McKinney really shines through his route recognition, mental processing, and change of direction to be showcase his ball-hawking ability. His production backs it up as well. Overall, the Packers have signed a really good player who will be the team’s first do-it-all safety in over a decade."
From Zach Kruse:
I posted earlier that I'd like for Gute to find the next C Woodson, I love the profile of this kid and I hope to see him poking his nose around the LOS like #24 did. Just a great signing by our GM.
I’m not sure there’s ever going to be the next Charles Woodson.
@Pakrz posted:I’m not sure there’s ever going to be the next Charles Woodson.
Most recently Derwin James and Jalen Ramsey were billed as that type of player coming out of school. They certainly flash that ability and are very good players in their own right but they don't seem to have that consistent extra gear where they take over games like CW could. Granted, those guys still have some time left.
X is young. His starter bowl is still germinating. Given some more years, and the right system, that will be some great bread.
I think RAS is something Gutekunst looks at heavily when it comes to the Draft (based on his history). But not necessarily established players.
Gutey definitely uses RAS for the draft.....why?
You cannot teach speed and athleticism
So when you see your player on an NFL gridiron and you know what they're capable of because they are now playing against other NFL players, ras obviously becomes less important
@Satori posted:From Zach Kruse:
Xavier McKinney is one of the best tackling Safeties in football.
His 5.7% missed tackle rate was the lowest among all NFL safeties playing at least 600 snaps in 2023. Career missed tackle rate: 6.9 %
(Darnell Savage: 17.4%)
Missed and passive tackling is something that has plagued this defense for a long time now. I really hope that Xavier's tackling ability and willingness to do it rubs off on the other defensive players. I am beyond excited to see the Packers land someone who is physical and flies around making actual plays.
That’s a really good point Heckler. The Packers DBs in general aren’t great at tackling and it was clearly a weakness last year for sure.
@Tschmack posted:That’s a really good point Heckler. The Packers DBs in general aren’t great at tackling and it was clearly a weakness last year for sure.
The "tackling" by the secondary players is something that has been a glaring weakness for quite a while now. One other thing I hope stops is the defense chasing the offense around the field instead of taking it to them.
@The Heckler posted:The "tackling" by the secondary players is something that has been a glaring weakness for quite a while now. One other thing I hope stops is the defense chasing the offense around the field instead of taking it to them.
Yes! I hope the coaches emphasize wrapping up the opponent when tackling him. Too many times have we seen our DBs and LBs run into a player to tackle him. Then, the ball carrier bounces off and continues to pick up yardage. One of the worst violators was Savage. Now, he's gone, so in a way, we improved already.
Xavier McKinney had dinner with new Packers DC Jeff Hafley last night.
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) March 15, 2024
“I know we gonna have fun together, for sure.” pic.twitter.com/tFFrc3CipK
Xavier McKinney says Jordan Love played a “big factor” in him joining the Packers.
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) March 15, 2024
“You need an elite quarterback to be able to even have a chance and I believe he is an elite quarterback.” pic.twitter.com/eXuO77mzrp
Tackling.....wrap up and twist. Seattle been doing it for years. Copycat league
@Goldie posted:Ah, hello, have been saying this for, like, forever, and it isn’t JUST the DB’s, it’s the whole defense at times. Ugh…….
Without a doubt we have been saying that for a long long time. Bad tackling and just reacting to what the offense is doing.
Good to hear that Xavier wants to come to GB because of a young talented QB. Reminds me of a time when players wanted to come to play in GB when there was a young talented QB in #4.
@The Heckler posted:Bad tackling
1) They don't practice it much anymore, deemed too risky
2) The league has made it harder & harder on the defenders with endless rule changes about hitting high, hitting low, horse collar rules, defenseless WRs and untouchable QBs
The Packers aren't the only ones who display poor tackling, its the entire NFL.
And that's the way the owners want it.
Poor tackling = more offense & points= higher ratings= mo money.
@PackLandVA posted:I think RAS is something Gutekunst looks at heavily when it comes to the Draft (based on his history). But not necessarily established players.
RAS is probably more useful in evaluating specific positions more than others.
I think there is a big difference between safety and DB. If you are safety playing in a single high defense, you'd rather have a guy that ran a high 4.5s with a lot of football intelligence that can run the defense, tackle, and play the ball in the air than a 4.35 that struggled with those traits (Savage).
If you are looking at a bump and run corner or any type of corner in a man defense, the 40 time (and other measures) are more important. When you line up against Tyreke Hill or some other speedster, football smarts only get you so far.
I’ll be honest, tackling is probably my number three priority for a defensive back
I just want to know if it's Havier or Zavier?
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:I’ll be honest, tackling is probably my number three priority for a defensive back
Well, don't leave us hanging.
What are your top 2 priorities for DBs ?
And thanks for alerting us to your honesty.
Super helpful
More from McKinney here:
https://www.usatoday.com/story...defense/72974478007/
@Pakrz posted:I’m not sure there’s ever going to be the next Charles Woodson.
