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Off-season hard knocks Giants episode 2 discusses Xavier's free agent process from the Giants perspective with -30:44 left in the episode.

It's amazing to me the Giants let NFL Films do this. Whether they're obfuscating their process or not it's a look inside an organization's off season process that leaves them wide open for criticism warranted or not.

The Giants seem to think it's better than training camp hard knocks. I think it's much worse. If it's a ploy by the NFL to get other teams to do the training camp hard knocks it's going to work well. Any team with common sense will avoid this version at all costs. Honestly think this might be one and done. Fascinating watch though.

Feel like one thing every aspiring GM will take away from this show is getting interviewed at the scouting combine wearing a backpack is a bad look. Perception matters to the people who make the big decisions for these teams. I think any of us would hate having cameras follow is around at our job all day. I can't imagine how much of a distraction this is for everyone already performing in a demanding environment. Giants haven't had success in a long time. This is the opposite of them ingratiating themselves to their fan base. It seems like getting to watch a guy seal his own fate.

@titmfatied posted:

I have to imagine other front offices are flabbergasted watching this.

I didn't watch it, but I did read a comment from HC Daboll where he said that anytime they wanted to have a real conversation, he'd turn on some music on his phone and it would eff up the recording and they couldn't use that film.

So my guess is that what we see is partially farce for the cameras. I think the entire thing is idiotic, but apparently people watch so they keep making more.

Also, here's a blurb from The Athletic ( paywall) that talks about WHY Mara changed his mind about allowing the cameras in

https://www.nytimes.com/athlet...offseason-john-mara/

"Team president and co-owner John Maraโ€™s, letโ€™s call it, distaste for the program is well-known. He infamously told the New York Daily News in 2010 that the Giants would appear on the show โ€œwhen Iโ€™m next to my father in the Gates of Heaven Cemetery.โ€

So, why the change of heart?

The answer to that question has roots dating back two years when the Giants started to organize the celebration of the teamโ€™s centennial season in 2024. The new series spun from one of the primary goals of that planning process: How could the Giants tell the franchiseโ€™s 100-year story on a national scale?

โ€œHow do we identify and target that 17-year-old kid who lives out in California who may never go to any of our YouTube channels or our social media accounts?โ€ said Nilay Shah, the Giantsโ€™ senior vice president for marketing and brand strategy. โ€œHow do we get them to understand the history and the impact this organization has had in the NFL in the context of our 100th season?โ€

To answer those questions, the Giants reached out to NFL Films and began brainstorming.

@titmfatied posted:

Off-season hard knocks Giants episode 2 discusses Xavier's free agent process from the Giants perspective with -30:44 left in the episode.

It's amazing to me the Giants let NFL Films do this. Whether they're obfuscating their process or not it's a look inside an organization's off season process that leaves them wide open for criticism warranted or not.

The Giants seem to think it's better than training camp hard knocks. I think it's much worse. If it's a ploy by the NFL to get other teams to do the training camp hard knocks it's going to work well. Any team with common sense will avoid this version at all costs. Honestly think this might be one and done. Fascinating watch though.

I liked it much better than training camp hard knocks. Some eye opening stuff there.

@titmfatied posted:

John Runyon discussed on episode 3. Jets were in on him for $9 million and the Giants beat their offer with $10 million to sign him. Giants GM cited him not missing a game in 3 years as a positive. Runyon was a solid, always available starter, sometimes up and down. Not sure I'd want to commit $10 million for him. Glad he did well for his family.

Caught that last night. They also mention that matching the $9 million deal wasn't going to be enough to get the deal done because of Rodgers being with the Jets. So Rodgers cost them about $1 million per.

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From Rob Reischel at Forbes

https://www.forbes.com/sites/r...3---xavier-mckinney/


โ€œI recruited (McKinney) for two years, so I guess that wouldโ€™ve been his sophomore and junior year, and he ended up committing his senior year. But he was the same player in high school that he was in college, and same player heโ€™s been in pro ball.

Heโ€™s a pro, he works every day, heโ€™s a good leader, very low maintenance. Heโ€™s a ball guy 24-7. I donโ€™t think he has a whole lot of hobbies. Heโ€™d tell you that. But heโ€™s the same player I knew back in Roswell, Georgia, that he is now.โ€ โ€” Packers defensive backs coach Derrick Ansley, who recruited McKinney at Georgia nearly a decade ago

more comments on X-man here
Having a smart and talented vet at Safety is HUGE for the rest of the DBs

https://www.packers.com/news/t...e-total-package-2024

McKinney, who turns 25 on Friday, was widely considered one of the top free agents on the market this offseason after catching nine interceptions on 27 passes defensed in 49 games (46 starts) for the New York Giants the past four seasons.

Despite his youth, the 2020 second-round pick was a team captain in New York. During his five months with the Packers, McKinney has already made himself at home in Green Bay's secondary with several breakups to go along with his two INTs.

Asked recently about his experience practicing against McKinney, Love praised the 6-foot, 201-pound safety for testing him and the rest of the Packers' offense on a daily basis.

"He knows where he needs to be, he knows how to kind of hide from the quarterback and disguise stuff," Love said. "'X' is doing a phenomenal job back there. He's a playmaker. He's always around the ball, he's always hunting that ball, so I'm excited to see what he can do this year."

Making McKinney's production even more impressive is the fact the Packers continue to rotate Bullard, Williams and second-year safety Anthony Johnson Jr. alongside him in practice.

@lovepack posted:

a discussion about the Cardinals having to know where X is at all times.

No need.....just ignore X there Kyler.....he's nothing ๐Ÿคญ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

@lovepack posted:

Who was the last guy on our defense that offenses had to be aware of? CM3?

I'd say Reggie.....but more to the point and position....Nick Collins. Before the Super Bowl, Mike Tomlin said in his presser....."I see you Nick Collins....I see you!"

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