Mike McCarthy spilled the beans a bit in his press conference on Monday as well:
Well, we got a little thin there with the pass-rushers going out of the game there fast, with Clay, Nick and Jayrone going out....
WTF ?????!!!!! Never heard Clay was injured in Bronco game ??
Couldn't even get to week 1 before Nick and Clay get dinged up. Geezus f**q!
McCarthy has never been the master orator, may have just meant CM3 going out after his prescribed # of snaps?
Sure isn't going to help negotiations with Brooks. May need to find another OLB.
Guess TJ Watt at 29 isn't looking so bad now? ****ing A
And don't give me "we have Biegel AND King for Watt" bull****
Biegel may never play and King has looked mediocre at best
We knew coming in that Clay and Perry had to stay healthy but that's about as likely as me winning the US Open
Love TT but seriously WTF
By the way - anyone know that a pass rush can make good corners look great? That might be a problem if our thin OLB can't stay healthy.
You don't want to wish injuries on players, but seeing TJ Watt get a season-long case of hangnail or turf toe wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
I really wonder if Ted is just obtuse to the LB postion given he played it. He's ****ed up more on LBs than just about every other position other than DL.
Watt playing well is just another kick in the nuts.
don't know if anybody watched the 49'ers last night, foster was murdering people - how good would that guy look in our soft underbelly.
We will just try to outscore everyone
Until we face a good offense
Tschmack posted:Guess TJ Watt at 29 isn't looking so bad now? ****ing A
And don't give me "we have Biegel AND King for Watt" bull****
Biegel may never play and King has looked mediocre at best
We knew coming in that Clay and Perry had to stay healthy but that's about as likely as me winning the US Open
Love TT but seriously WTF
By the way - anyone know that a pass rush can make good corners look great? That might be a problem if our thin OLB can't stay healthy.
Right now. **** TJ Watt. Rueben Foster went 31 to SF. He's killing it right now. He's a tackling machine playing outside LB and he's really effing good in coverage.
He lasts until 31 because he blew up at a nurse at the combine. Right now he looks every bit like top 10 talent he was projected as. At pick 31. So whatever about TJ Watt. Foster looks like the bigger miss.
I'm on my phone right now. Can someone please post the video of Foster launching Vikings Boone aside and making a play on the Viking RB ??
As Cris Farley would say ... "that was awesome"
No idea if it's the play you mention. But on the Vikings first drive Foster lined up in the middle and read Dalvin Cook on a swing pass and moved like a heat seeking missle and just destroyed Cook for a loss. It was all Foster. And it was impressive.
Yes, but have you seen the Vikings' Oline? They flip-turn faster than Vanna's letters!
Maybe more impressive is the parade of really good LB's that have marched through SF in the last 5-10yrs.
John Lynch said they had Foster graded out as the third best player in the entire draft. Packers have two areas of glaring need they need to shore up to have a realistic shot at the SB.
Tschmack posted:
Biegel may never play and King has looked mediocre at best
I have no clue about Vince Abberderis and personally don't care at this point. As far as King, we haven't seen anything as it's preseason as a rookie. CB is much harder to play than OLB. So I wouldn't throw out the pick considering the massive need in the backfield.
That said, the Josh Jones pick is starting to look like a luxury.
Clay Matthews has tightness in his groin and was held out as a precaution. As Mike McCarthy said, there's not long-term concern there. He wouldn't have played in Thursday's preseason finale anyway.
Rob Demovsky, ESPN Staff WriterDean Lowry (knee) is also back. https://t.co/Bsp7FgK4vu pic.twitter.com/GWUDm36YFN
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) August 29, 2017
If (big IF, I know) we can avoid the injury bug, I am excited to see how the Dline progresses. Still worry about the LBs and to an extent the CBs, but I want to see if the DL hits its potential.
Capers said he believes Matthews, Perry and Elliott will all be back and available. Their absences are precautionary. #Packers
Packdog posted:Capers said he believes Matthews, Perry and Elliott will all be back and available. Their absences are precautionary.
#Packers2:02 PM - 29 Aug 2017
Then we don't really need Brooks.
PackerPatrick posted:Packdog posted:Capers said he believes Matthews, Perry and Elliott will all be back and available. Their absences are precautionary.
#Packers2:02 PM - 29 Aug 2017Then we don't really need Brooks.
Disagree
I will leave the decision to the staff. (Like I have a say so anyway)
I'm not throwing out the King pick at all. He has talent and seems like a good guy. Personally, we need him to play well. But I am also not ready to immediately dismiss Rollins or Randall. They played great in 2015 and tough to assess 2016 due to injury?
My only concern is there were some decent pass rush options there at 29 and Ted went another direction. That's cool but betting on often injured Badgers LB is not a recipe for success. See Mike Taylor and Chris Borland and our guy Vincent Biegel.
There was also pass rush talent at the Jones pick and a couple of decent prospects at the Jerel Adams pick. I know Burnett's in a contract year and they want the "Nitro" package at times, but it's a bit like buying a jet ski when you don't have a reliable car to get to work. IMO they really needed two solid OLB prospects, especially with one coming off an injury. They're not keeping four halfbacks or eight receivers.
I don't think it's like that all. We have two starters at OLB and we had an open hole at CB. If anything drafting another OLB would be the jet ski in your analogy. That would be a luxury pick, CB had a glaring hole, a more glaring hole than depth at OLB. Pass rush is a key component, but even a really good rush is negated by glaring weaknesses at CB...just ask the 2016 Packers who were 4th in sacks and trying to cover Julio Jones with a 2nd year UDFA.
I agree, go back & watch the Atlanta playoff game. Ryan is getting the ball out in less than the average time sacks occur in the NFL. When the immediate first look is open, does not make a difference who you have rushing, they are not going to get there
Perry and Matthews have proven they can't stay healthy. They are the only two decent pass rushers they have other than an occasional inside Daniels pressure. They are actually counting on Fackrell and Elliott? That makes Gunther seem like an All Pro option in comparison
They added House and from all accounts Rollins and Randall are back to being healthy and look the part. I get King but King and Jones at the expense of adding another OLB? Why? Brice was already on the team and looks really good. He could play the slot or if they needed Jones as the slot guy why draft King?
You can get by with mediocre CB play if guys can pressure the QB. If that doesn't happen CB talent or depth is irrelevant
You obviously cannot get by with mediocre CB play, if you could then we would have just won the SB. You can't get by with mediocre CBs or Safeties filling in at CB, we tried that and Matt Ryan shredded us.
Kevin King would not have made any difference in that game
We had 3 open holes at CB
tough to draft or plan for that
Yet Dom played our schit CB single coverage and no pass rush to speak of
Which teams have the most OLB depth? Maybe a trade with one of them for a WR or for Hundley or Hill? Or is there any chance an OLB better than our guys will get cut lose this Saturday by someone?
I don't think Matthews injury is all that mysterious. What is the only injury he almost always has? If you guessed "hamstring" you are correct. Unless it is a headache from all that hair hanging off his head. I rest my case.
Lack of pass rush will bury them again
I'm convinced, might as well not even watch the games this year.
Ted was at TJWatts pro day. I still dont understand passing him up. he better hope King turns into a shut down corner
All this angst over TJ, a guy who isn't even on the GB roster. Geez, I wish the season would start so we could complain about something else.
I'm not real fond of auto correct when I'm texting real fast. Does that count?
Grave Digger posted:I don't think it's like that all. We have two starters at OLB and we had an open hole at CB. If anything drafting another OLB would be the jet ski in your analogy. That would be a luxury pick, CB had a glaring hole, a more glaring hole than depth at OLB. Pass rush is a key component, but even a really good rush is negated by glaring weaknesses at CB...just ask the 2016 Packers who were 4th in sacks and trying to cover Julio Jones with a 2nd year UDFA.
No real qualms with King, they needed a 6'+, rangy corner also, but Jones really seems like a luxury pick, as does the Jerel Adams flier when OLB is also so thin. Bringing in House was a good move to add some depth to a struggling position, adding two guys where needed, but Fackrell is still really raw and Elliott appears to be another Vic So'oto, etc. If the Packers had two durable guys starting it would be a different gamble.
Fandame posted:All this angst over TJ, a guy who isn't even on the GB roster. Geez, I wish the season would start so we could complain about something else.
Would it make you feel better if it was Tak McKinley? Had Atlanta taken Watt instead then the name changes but the need doesn't. That's not to say Watt was the only answer, just the first/easiest/most obvious one.
