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Veteran DT will be available as well. 





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Henry posted:

Why would you even think that?  If they're not going to pay Martinez why the hell would they bring back Ryan?

Jake Ryan would not be an improvement over Blake Martinez. He would be a lot cheaper, but that's about it.

packerboi posted:

Veteran DT will be available as well. 





How has Dareus played the past few years? Just wondering.

He's been good, not great from what I've read. BUF shipped him off for under performing, but he seemed to get his shit together in JAX. He's a stout run defender, average as a pass rusher. Sounds like Ryan Pickett when we picked him up. He was cut because he doesn't deserve $20M cap number, but he's not a bum. 

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Green Bay has had 4 placekickers since 1989.  31 years. 4 kickers.  And, really, 1 of those 4 was here only for a single year.  From Jacke to Longwell to Crosby, this has been a position that Green Bay has not had to worry about at all. (Save a brief stretch in 2012 where he was not great for about 6 weeks, and it's easy to remember the Detroit game in 18, but he bounced back immediately...)

And all of these guys have been productive as hell.  This isn't the work of lazy GMs sticking with the average/below average guy here.  

For context - 2 teams, New England and Tennessee, had 4 placekickers last year alone.  

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Per above, GB has had 4 kickers since 1989. Jacke, Longwell, Crosby and ______?

Without looking- can you name the 4th Kicker here?  I, for one, had no recollection of this guy and would not have guessed it anytime soon...

Grave Digger posted:

He's been good, not great from what I've read. BUF shipped him off for under performing, but he seemed to get his shit together in JAX. He's a stout run defender, average as a pass rusher. Sounds like Ryan Pickett when we picked him up. He was cut because he doesn't deserve $20M cap number, but he's not a bum. 

Thanks, Digger.

Tom Birney   I remember a Green Bay Gazzette cartoon from 1979.  It showed two groundskeepers talking with goalposts behind them with nets all around the outside (between the posts had no nets). One groundskeeper is saying...”well you said put up the nets so we wouldn’t lose any footballs.”

Grave Digger posted:

He's been good, not great from what I've read. BUF shipped him off for under performing, but he seemed to get his shit together in JAX. He's a stout run defender, average as a pass rusher. Sounds like Ryan Pickett when we picked him up. He was cut because he doesn't deserve $20M cap number, but he's not a bum. 

Buffalo gave up on him because he was a headcase and a distraction.  He was ok for awhile in Jax as he was motivated to prove doubters wrong.  He's probably still got some gas in the tank but I'd pass on him.  Don't trust his attitude or conditioning. 

Hungry5 posted:

Dave Rayner I believe.

Winner. He was the sorbet (from Applebees) between Longwell and Crosby.

From Rob Demovsky:

"Since the start of the 2007 season, no one other than Crosby has place-kicked for the Packers. In that same span, only two teams have used fewer than five kickers: Tennessee (four) and Indianapolis (three). Twenty teams have used more than five kickers, led by the Buccaneers (12) Chargers (10) and Saints (10)."

michiganjoe posted:

I've seen Grant Delpit, S, from LSU, fall to the Packers in recent mocks. The best Safety in the draft would not be a bad pick at 30, especially if Tramon decides to retire, or move on.  Hard to say what Veldheer will do. We would still need to draft O Linemen, no matter what Veldheer does, IMO.

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I was thinking earlier on that another safety wouldn't make sense there. But, now, I'm more open to the idea, especially if the top ILB's are off the board at 30. If he can take away the inside routes and help in run support, then that would be a useful pick. The only knock I've heard on him is tackling issues, which, for that position is a big problem.

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mrtundra posted:
We would still need to draft O Linemen, no matter what Veldheer does, IMO.

While never "flashy" picks, I'd have no issues if Gutenheimer picked OL and DL every draft. You can never have enough and while cliché , it's still true. These games more often then not are won in the trenches.   

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packerboi posted:
mrtundra posted:
We would still need to draft O Linemen, no matter what Veldheer does, IMO.

While never "flashy" picks, I'd have no issues if Gutenheimer picked OL and DL every draft. You can never have enough and while cloacae, it's still true. These games more often then not are won in the trenches.   

Skill players?

mrtundra posted:
michiganjoe posted:

I've seen Grant Delpit, S, from LSU, fall to the Packers in recent mocks. The best Safety in the draft would not be a bad pick at 30, especially if Tramon decides to retire.  Hard to say what Veldheer will do. We would still need to draft O Linemen, no matter what Veldheer does, IMO.

Safety would be a left field choice considering the investment they just made in the position, but if Savage could be shifted to a Honey Badger role, he would really excel.