Like we've done in previous off seasons, we will create a topic to discuss Packer moves made during the off season. And this year due to cap issues there is likely to be quite a few.
Here's a rather interesting comment from Douglas. Perhaps he's a Packer in 2022:
#Packers CB Rasul Douglas said "nothing crazy" when asked what it would take for the team to re-sign him. "Probably a little bit more."
— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) January 24, 2022
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@paul_bretl: Per source, the Packers have signed QB Kurt Benkert to a futures deal.
Packers 2022 Offseason To-Do List
— Ken Ingalls - Packers Cap 💰 (@KenIngalls) January 24, 2022
🌅Early Items
🔲Sign PS to Futures
🔲Figure out QB
🔲Tender ERFAs
🔲Tender Lazard
🔲Extend Jaire
🔲Clear Salary Cap
⚠️Critical Needs
🔲WR
🔲CB
🔲DL
🔲ILB
🔝Other Priority
🔲Edge
🔲TE
🔲S
🔲OL
🔲ST
🔲RB
🔲QB
📋Status
☑️= A Little
✅= A Lot
@packerboi posted:Like we've done in previous off seasons, we will create a topic to discuss Packer moves made during the off season. And this year due to cap issues there is likely to be quite a few.
Here's a rather interesting comment from Douglas. Perhaps he's a Packer in 2022:
#Packers CB Rasul Douglas said "nothing crazy" when asked what it would take for the team to re-sign him. "Probably a little bit more."
— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) January 24, 2022
His agent probably hates him. 
A starting CB trio of Douglas and Alexander on the perimeter, and maybe Stokes moving to the slot could be awfully good. Yes, I understand Stokes is also an outside CB but he has the speed and athleticism to play slot if they wanted to upgrade Sullivan...who I think is just OK.
Make no mistake, if the Donkeys are bent on trading for Rodgers, this is a move that would sweeten the pot for AR to consider:
#Packers OC Nathaniel Hackett is set to have his second interview with the #Broncos today in Denver, per source.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 24, 2022
Packer free agents.
packperfect2 Packers free agents in 2022:
1. Davante Adams
2. De'Vondre Campbell
3. Rasuel Douglas
4. Robert Tonyan
5. Kevin King
6. Chandon Sullivan
7. Lucas Patrick
8. Dennis Kelly
9. MVS
10. EQ
11. Tyler Lanchester
12. Bojo
13. Oren Burks
For the Complimentary Draft we are projected to receive a
4th and 7th rounder for Cory Linsey and Jamaal Williams
The other thing for AR to consider is weather. Many have pointed out that the cold appears to bother QBs more as they age. That would be another factor in Denver's favor as opposed to Pittsburgh.
MLF would be an idiot to let Getsy also go to Denver. If Hackett is hired, he can find his own OC, Gesty stays put and can be promoted to OC here.
Packers OC Nathaniel Hackett
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) January 24, 2022
Cowboys DC Dan Quinn
Rams OC Kevin O'Connell
Luke Getsy out. If Hackett gets the job, I'd imagine Getsy gets promoted to OC in Green Bay. Would he make a lateral move to be an OC who doesn't call plays in Denver if a certain QB joins him and Hackett? https://t.co/TjQPwDBYRZ
12 and 17 are tied together...one isn't coming back without the other.
If 12 comes back, it's going to be a "will retire a Packer" deal. My guess is 3 years max. They will sign Tae to a 5-year deal, heavily loaded in the first 3 years (IF he comes back).
Something that can't be underestimated as to the fate of this squad....the unprecedented, repeated kicks in the balls to the OL. 69 was supposed to be back mid-season. Elgton wasn't supposed to blow his ACL. Myers was brought in to replace an All Pro, got hurt and lost critical snaps in his development. Turner got hurt. Kelly wasn't supposed to be the starting RT in the playoffs.
And that says nothing for Tonyan who was a major weapon last year, being out most of the season.
This team got dealt the shittiest injury hand of any team this year...and they were the #1 seed.
If I were GM for a day:
packperfect2 Packers free agents in 2022:
1. Davante Adams - tag and trade (he won't come back without 12)
2. De'Vondre Campbell - keep
3. Rasuel Douglas - keep
4. Robert Tonyan - keep
5. Kevin King - cut (call the Uber to pick him up)
6. Chandon Sullivan - cut
7. Lucas Patrick - keep if deal is reasonable (good for depth and versatility)
8. Dennis Kelly - keep if deal is reasonable (might need him if Bak's issues continue)
9. MVS - keep if deal is reasonable (only because you can't replace the entire WR group and he's a legit deep threat)
10. EQ - cut
11. Tyler Lanchester - cut
12. Bojo - keep
13. Oren Burks - cut* (see "Kevin King")
For the Complimentary Draft we are projected to receive a
4th and 7th rounder for Cory Linsey and Jamaal Williams
Chongo I agree with you on 12/17. They are a package deal. And agree with your entire post. What gets tricky is the defense.
I'm guessing Yosh may well figure into being backup OT1 for this team...
@RochNyFan posted:If I were GM for a day:
packperfect2 Packers free agents in 2022:
1. Davante Adams - tag and trade (he won't come back without 12)
2. De'Vondre Campbell - keep
3. Rasuel Douglas - keep
4. Robert Tonyan - keep
5. Kevin King - cut (call the Uber to pick him up)
6. Chandon Sullivan - cut
7. Lucas Patrick - keep if deal is reasonable (good for depth and versatility)
8. Dennis Kelly - keep if deal is reasonable (might need him if Bak's issues continue)
9. MVS - keep if deal is reasonable (only because you can't replace the entire WR group and he's a legit deep threat)
10. EQ - cut
11. Tyler Lanchester - cut
12. Bojo - keep
13. Oren Burks - cut* (see "Kevin King")
For the Complimentary Draft we are projected to receive a
4th and 7th rounder for Cory Linsey and Jamaal Williams
Like the way you think.
Ideally, you have to find a way to keep Jaire Alexander. He’s a top 3-4 cover corner in the league and you pair him up with Stokes and that’s as good a starting duo as there is.
If the money is right, you make a reasonable effort to keep guys like Tonyan and Lucas Patrick and MVS and Bojo. Maybe Campbell too, but I think at least one or two teams may throw big money at him. Same deal with Rasual Douglas.
You cut Z, Lowry and Cobb and trade Rodgers and take back picks and not players and you now have 7M to play with. Cut Preston and Amos and now you are up to 29M in cap space. Enough to extend Jaire and Patrick and Tonyan and Bojo and MVS and sign the draft picks.
Assuming you trade w/Denver and hope you get their 1 and 2 this year and 1 and 2 next year that’s a start. But you’ll need at least another WR, another pass rusher, another DE, and some other breaks to fall your way in the draft and FA. Ugh.
No surprise. Too early.
@TomSilverstein: LaFleur said he met with the coaching staff in the morning, then had a team meeting and has been meeting with players from around 9 a.m. to about 3 p.m. Said he has not gotten to decisions on his coaches. "We're not even close to that right now."
@TomSilverstein: LaFleur said GM Brian Gutekunst and negotiator Russ Ball have a plan to deal with $40M-plus in cap overage and thinks they won't have to gut the team, but he said "there definitely will be some tough decisions."
Keep the regulars:
2,3,4,6,7,12 maybe Dennis Kelly
that would keep things solid
Adams is the only big-money free agent so I could see any of them back, maybe most.
1. Davante Adams - Keep with extended years. He'll be expensive.
2. De'Vondre Campbell - I doubt he gets a huge offer. May be back unless some otehr team gets stupid.
3. Rasuel Douglas - Same as Campbell
4. Robert Tonyan - Rodgers makes him. Bring back if cheap.
5. Kevin King - Depends on Douglas
6. Chandon Sullivan - Bring back if cheap
7. Lucas Patrick - Love to keep him, but likely gets starter money somewhere and Packers have a lot of guys behind him.
8. Dennis Kelly - Walks. They have a number of guys behind him.
9. MVS - Bring back on moderate deal
10. EQ - Walks
11. Tyler Lancaster - Walks unless comes back for rotational guy money.
12. Bojo - Punters aren't big money and they gave up a pick. Back.
13. Oren Burks - Should come back fairly cheap and keep one of the few good ST players you have.
The cap moves will be interesting. It's a good draft year for Edge guys, so Z and Preston likely restructure heavily or gone.
@RochNyFan posted:If I were GM for a day:
packperfect2 Packers free agents in 2022:
1. Davante Adams - tag and trade (he won't come back without 12)
2. De'Vondre Campbell - keep
3. Rasuel Douglas - keep
4. Robert Tonyan - keep
5. Kevin King - cut (call the Uber to pick him up)
6. Chandon Sullivan - cut
7. Lucas Patrick - keep if deal is reasonable (good for depth and versatility)
8. Dennis Kelly - keep if deal is reasonable (might need him if Bak's issues continue)
9. MVS - keep if deal is reasonable (only because you can't replace the entire WR group and he's a legit deep threat)
10. EQ - cut
11. Tyler Lanchester - cut
12. Bojo - keep
13. Oren Burks - cut* (see "Kevin King")
For the Complimentary Draft we are projected to receive a
4th and 7th rounder for Cory Linsey and Jamaal Williams
The tricky part of tagging and trading Adams is what does Adams do, and how soon would you be able to trade him? 19 million is a lot of jack to tie up on a guy you know doesn't want to be there. Agree on pretty much everything else. For sure cut King, Sullivan, EQ, Lancaster, Burks and let Cobb walk.
@Chongo posted:I'm guessing Yosh may well figure into being backup OT1 for this team...
Yosh is going to get paid. He performed like a league average starting LT. Half the teams in the NFL don't have that. He Gone.
Unfortunately, yes, and there goes a chunk of depth.
@Harry Manback posted:The tricky part of tagging and trading Adams is what does Adams do, and how soon would you be able to trade him? 19 million is a lot of jack to tie up on a guy you know doesn't want to be there. Agree on pretty much everything else. For sure cut King, Sullivan, EQ, Lancaster, Burks and let Cobb walk.
Adams tells his agent to go out there and find him the best deal. The kicker is that if the team that offers it is not top 15 in draft, they have to send us a 1st and a 3rd. If it is top 15, we take the 1st.
Ya don't like that, sit out.
No chance they sign Adams to a long term deal. Adams has said many times he wants to be the highest paid WR in the game and what Rodgers does or doesn’t do doesn’t matter to him. That puts him at $30m per year minimum. Packers cannot afford that. Best they can do is tag him and if they do they aren’t trading him.
I think MLF is living in fantasy land if he thinks they can keep Rodgers (at 46M) and not gut the team. If they rework his deal, they are just pushing more dead money into the future. That’s great if you are coming off a Super Bowl victory, but this team is not.
There is virtually no realistic scenario to keep Rodgers and Adams on the team unless they cut Z, Preston, Cobb, Crosby, Lowry, and Amos. That’s 5 1/2 starters. And they likely wouldn’t be able to afford Jaire either. Sure, it’s possible they could maybe bring back guys like Tonyan and Campbell and Douglas and MVS and scrubs like Sullivan and Lancaster but that’s not getting them back to being competitive. Like really competitive.
The biggest questions with Tonyan is when will he be ready to play full time and what will his speed be? Keeping that in mind I draft Jake Fergusson if he is available, even if it is the 1st round. I also let MVS and EQ walk. You can draft college guys who will be cheaper who can do what they don't do. Then get some DL depth in draft or FA. Try to keep Rasul and Douglas and Jaire. Goodbye King too.
Flame away all.
Trey McBride from Colorado State was an All American Tight End and Mackey Award winner - would be another solid option
*Edit to add - I like your plan Ammo, just throwing another name out there especially for those who would flame just because you mentioned a Badger.
to all the fans that complained that the front office wasn’t “all in,” this is what happens when you max out the cap and don’t win the sb. you’re screwed
@Jessie Clark posted:to all the fans that complained that the front office wasn’t “all in,” this is what happens when you max out the cap and don’t win the sb. you’re screwed
They aren’t screwed.
Isn't Yosh a restricted FA? If so, you slap a first round tender on him. Shouldn't be to expensive.
First-round tender: One-year contract worth the greater of (a) $4.766 million or (b) 110 percent of the player's prior-year base salary. If the player's original team decides not to match an offer sheet signed with another team, it is entitled to a first-round draft pick from the player's new team. Unless received two days or later prior to the NFL draft, draft compensation for each tender is due in the same league year as the offer sheet is signed.
@ammo posted:Try to keep Rasul and Douglas and Jaire. Goodbye King too.
Flame away all.
I’m pretty sure that if you keep Raul, you have to keep Douglas.
Yes, Yosh is a RFA. So is Lazard.
@Timpranillo posted:They aren’t screwed.
Optimism! Is that allowed?
I do wish they hadn't done the Bakh contract, seemed to me it was a sop to Rodgers as much as anything. No one knew that he'd get hurt of course, but I thought the signing was way too much.
Tender both, can't be that much at 110% of the previous years salary...
@justanotherpackerfan posted:I’m pretty sure that if you keep Raul, you have to keep Douglas.
OPPPSSSS Douglas was supposed to mean DeVondre Campbell. 
tonyan was a marginal player before he wrecked his knee. move on
Spotrac has his calculated market value at $10.8 million. That is insane.
