Well that was bad.
team is soft. matt lafluer is a pretty boy. time to move on.
Have some faith? OK cool
They lost to a 1 win team
They beat a New Orleans team based on a miracle
So this is a 1 win team, basically
If you are going to suck then do it well
@PackerPatrick posted:And I thought last year was bad.
Last year was bad, and with an MVP QB at the helm…..so, ya, last year was actually worse, so there is that. 
@Goldie posted:Who’s starting the plus/minus thread??? Oh that’s right THERE WASN’T ANY THING POSITIVE ABOUT IT. 🤬 🤬 🤬
Yes there was! It’s over.
@Tschmack posted:Nope
Drake Maye, Shake Sanders, Bo Mix, Penix, all good
Don't want Sanders, and Sanders won't want Green Bay. Too much Johnny Football attitude for me. I like Bo Nix and I haven't seen too much of Maye. Penix looks the part, but has kind of a weird throwing motion. A left-handed Love build with better accuracy and athleticism.
If it comes down to the last game, who can lose it the best when the Bears and Packers play?
i didn’t see anything today that gives me hope for the future of this team with matt lafluer as coach or jordan love as qb. blow it up. all the way to the top.
and by the way gutey’s draft picks suck too.
Cool
Stick with Jordan Hill. Or Deacon Love. And win 5 games a year.
@Tschmack posted:Get us a real goddamn QB. That’s a top 10 pick. Top 5 and send a bunch of cash for Caleb Williams and we are off to the races.
A week ago you complaining about the Badgers putting Locke in the game. After yesterday you were calling him the QB of the future. Maybe Love will have a good game and you'll change your opinion of him.
@JimBobDuggar posted:Can't imagine how bad this game would have been without the extra rest and time to prepare.
..or the two lucky TD passes. One was so late a guy beaten by 3 steps almost picked it. In fact, the rules expert on the broadcast said he did. The other was late and behind and we get one of the luckiest bounces I’ve seen in a while.
We could easily have gone all game without a TD and Love having 3 picks in crucial moments.
He sucks. Constantly late and constantly under thrown. I have a suspicion that the shit timing on the screen game falls on his shoulders too.
Cut bait. If Gute won’t do it, get rid of his ass too. Shit, do that anyways.
matt lafluer was supposed to be some sort of offensive guru. his offense is pathetically bad
It’s not a good football team
MLF and assistants aren’t good. Love isn’t good. Did I miss anything?
BTW Locke may not be anything either. I said he showed something against Illinois. Did some good things. If he flames out against Ohio State (very possible) will you come back and remind me how good he is? Or just make excuses?
Need a smart qb not scared about pressure- arm strength maybe 3rd in line screw measurable qb is about balls and smarts
@Tschmack posted:It’s not a good football team
MLF and assistants aren’t good. Love isn’t good. Did I miss anything?
BTW Locke may not be anything either. I said he showed something against Illinois. If he flames out against Ohio State (very possible) will you come back and remind me how good he is?
No, because I would never rate a QB's performance making his 2nd start against the #3 team in the country.
Lol
whatever man
Love has had 3 years to learn. He’s had 1 decent game. Several other mediocre to poor games. Based on those data points he’s not good.
Locke had 1 crap game and one good to decent game. Crown his ass.
All this Love hate is almost comical. Who helped him out? Did we see any WRs step up? The OL allowed pressure, didn't open holes for the running game, and made critical penalties. People have short memories and only think what happened at the end of the game is what matters. Carlson missed a chippie which gave Denver the field position to get a FG before the half. A 6 point swing. How many points did the Packers lose by? So to think that last pass prevented a game winning FG might not be true.
We have the Giants, Car, and Chicago on the schedule. We have a real shot at top 5.
how many draft picks has gutey spent on online in the past five years? at least 12. what do the packers have to show for it? jenkins. and a bunch of crap
@PackerRick posted:All this Love hate is almost comical. Who helped him out? Did we see any WRs step up? The OL allowed pressure, didn't open holes for the running game, and made critical penalties. People have short memories and only think what happened at the end of the game is what matters. Carlson missed a chippie which gave Denver the field position to get a FG before the half. A 6 point swing. How many points did the Packers lose by? So to think that last pass prevented a game winning FG might not be true.
The problem is he didn’t help himself either.
this team looks like 2017 with brett huntley at the helm
@Jessie Clark posted:how many draft picks has gutey spent on online in the past five years? at least 12. what do the packers have to show for it? jenkins. and a bunch of crap
Tom isn’t shabby.
@PackerRick posted:All this Love hate is almost comical. Who helped him out? Did we see any WRs step up? The OL allowed pressure, didn't open holes for the running game, and made critical penalties. People have short memories and only think what happened at the end of the game is what matters. Carlson missed a chippie which gave Denver the field position to get a FG before the half. A 6 point swing. How many points did the Packers lose by? So to think that last pass prevented a game winning FG might not be true.
No, I’m not just judging the last late and under thrown ball. I’m judging all of them. Including the one to Watson that ended the game 2 weeks ago.
2 games in a row have ended on a Love pick.
Fact is the Broncos whooped our ass and we got some big breaks to make it close. Then, in the final minutes, we do what we do. We give up scores and we throw picks in crucial situations.
@Goalline posted:The problem is he didn’t help himself either.
I think he had his moments. He made plays that gave the Packers a chance to win. People are so used to Rodgers acting as an OC on the field that they expect the same from Love who can't even change a play. He actually overcame some very stupid penalties. But the team can't be behind the sticks like they were at the end. They really needed a 1st down and the had 2 plays to get 20 yards. It was pretty obvious the ball had to go downfield.
What Love hate? Seriously?
He’s been awful the last several weeks. The team hasn’t been good either. Not all on him but it’s not a good football team.
Broncos are really bad and we lost to them.
We need a top 5 pick
@Iowacheese posted:
They'll very likely be #8 after tomorr.ow
@R MaN posted:Tom isn’t shabby.
Did the offensive line play better when he replaced Myers?
@BrainDed posted:..or the two lucky TD passes. One was so late a guy beaten by 3 steps almost picked it. In fact, the rules expert on the broadcast said he did. The other was late and behind and we get one of the luckiest bounces I’ve seen in a while.
We could easily have gone all game without a TD and Love having 3 picks in crucial moments.
He sucks. Constantly late and constantly under thrown. I have a suspicion that the shit timing on the screen game falls on his shoulders too.
Cut bait. If Gute won’t do it, get rid of his ass too. Shit, do that anyways.
rules analyst Gene Steratore is as bad as the officials---to say that contested pass was an interception is laughable. His feet are down first, but he doesn't complete the reception --or make the dreaded 'football move'---just a stupid thing to say..and ..speaking of stupid rules items-the holding call on Jenkins in crunch time on the QB draw was asinine... let that go the same way you let the offensive pass interference go on the Broncos last TD and Green Bay has a clear shot of winning and Love is the hero.
Love may not be Johnny U but he doesn't suck. He made a bad throw on 3rd and 20 protected by a mediocre line
Here is the official rules on a catch/interception in the NFL
a. secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
b. touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
c. after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.
That flukey New Orleans win is looking significant right now. A loss there and they are 3.
@PackerRick posted:I think he had his moments. He made plays that gave the Packers a chance to win. People are so used to Rodgers acting as an OC on the field that they expect the same from Love who can't even change a play. He actually overcame some very stupid penalties. But the team can't be behind the sticks like they were at the end. They really needed a 1st down and the had 2 plays to get 20 yards. It was pretty obvious the ball had to go downfield.
Some of his missed passes were atrocious and throwing that ball up for grabs with a strong legged young kicker in his back pocket was extremely stupid.
He’s got below average instincts. He doesn’t see the field well and takes way too much time to make decisions and release the ball.
Which makes him an average starting QB at best and backup at worst.
we’re told tom is good. i haven’t seen much evidence of that
@Jessie Clark posted:i didn’t see anything today that gives me hope for the future of this team with matt lafluer as coach or jordan love as qb. blow it up. all the way to the top.
So you want Me Murphy doing a complete Packer rebuild? I sure as hell don't. IMHO he is the main cause of all the problems right now.