@Chongo posted:Love has to win one Superb Owl, and get to another to surpass 12.
The terms have been set.
The prize will be pubic group shaming.
Pubic group shaming? That doesn’t sound very family friendly.
@Boris posted:Some.of you may not know Dugger is about as good as it gets covering a TE
Well, with 18 siblings who wouldn’t be?
@PA green & gold posted:???? Kraft. Deguara.
Deguara?
— Mark Oldacres (@MarkOldacres) January 15, 2024
Giving Musgrave shit about staying on his feet and not falling down is hilarious. Probably been an inside running joke in the locker room all season.
This kid is re-emerging at just the right time. I hope MLF has a whole chapter of 2TE sets that SF has never seen.
@DH13 posted:This kid is re-emerging at just the right time. I hope MLF has a whole chapter of 2TE sets that SF has never seen.
SF defense practices against SF offense. It's the same as Packer offense and the SF defense has Fred Warner....I assure you they've seen it. Both Offenses are mirror images of each other.
I've been posting that sentiment all over this board. Same is true for GB D.
What they haven't seen is 88 and 85 running it. Players, not plays.
@DH13 posted:Kincaid. Speaking of rookie TE's. Where was Musgrave last night?
I saw MLF bitching at him in the 1st quarter.....that was after he had a couple catches early.....after MLF bitching him out, we barely heard from him the rest of the game.
I don't know what that was all about.
I can’t remember if it was him or Kraft that got beat twice in a couple run plays by Bosa. Whoever they were very very slow firing off at the snap and Bosa jist beat them across their face for a TFL.
Haven't seen much of Musgrave this season. He spend the off season practicing with Deguara?
@JimBobDuggar posted:Haven't seen much of Musgrave this season. He spend the off season practicing with Deguara?
Sadly, I think I did see him today… tackling his own RB like 5 yards in the backfield after he was tossed around like a ragdoll.
The knock on him in college was he was a shaky blocker, he still needs a LOT of work in that department.
Maybe once Love comes back he can get involved in the passing game a bit more. But yeah, at this point Tucker Kraft appears to be the better player overall.
You double dip for just this reason. Kraft IS the better TE.
The draft is a crapshoot. It's only Luke's 2nd season. MOST TE's take 3 or 4 seasons to develop. Not everyone can be Tyeorge Krafttle
He needs #10 back, that's part of the issue. The other thing is his game is mostly stretching the field on seam routes and stressing the defense vertically.
His blocking needs to get better and as Boris points out, it is rare that a TE develops this fast in doing all the things they need to. He still needs to marinate.
Tucker Kraft is the more complete TE at this point. He does a lot of the little shit right and that includes the dirty work. Musgrave should be taking notes.
@mrtundra posted:Tell that to Laporta, in Detoilet.
Not this year. I got him on my fantasy team and he has not done shit!
If you can't block, you'll never sell the run when you're on the field. That's a big part in TE's getting open.
Threat of being murdered is another tactic. Not one I would recommend but it's been proven to be successful.
Plenty of time for Luke to get better (snaps reveal who the #1 TE is).
@RobDemovsky: One piece of injury news from Matt LaFleur: he confirmed that TE Luke Musgrave underwent ankle surgery and there’s still a chance he could return this season.
Is Musgrave on IR? Have heard zero about him. Hopefully not a completely lost season as he'd be a huge red zone target. He doesn't bring the physicality of the other TEs but huge catch radius.
I can't remember if they put him on IR? But he did have ankle surgery. Hoping he comes back for the final 3 or 4 games of regular season.