@MichiganPacker posted:Love picked a really bad time to morph back into the guy that dropped into the bottom of the 1st round at Utah State.
What a terrible decision. As bad as any that Favre ever did.
Jordan Love was not ready. Big-time choke job there. Frustrating to lose your last chance on just an idiotic decision.
What?!? It’s not Carlsons fault all of a sudden?!?
Special teams for packers reared it's ugly head again
We let ‘‘em off the hook.
@Pikes Peak posted:Fun year..Need to get some OL depth, an RB, a safety and a new D coordinater
Maybe a LB, too
@YooperPackfan posted:But lets dwell on the kicker
Damn right we will.
@MichiganPacker posted:Not so much for me. They fell apart in a winnable game.
They used to say Dan Marino was going to be back to several Super Bowls when he lost in his rookie year.
You only get so many chances.
The Packers choked.
Love fell apart. Never an expectation about Barry’s Funeral Defense.
@Floridarob posted:Special teams for packers reared it's ugly head again
Same as ever.
Purdy was ripe for the picking. Too many mistakes and blown opportunities.
Redzone offense, Savage, Carlson, Love horrible INT
We've lost in a lot of disgusting ways to that team with 4 and 12. Throw another log on the fire.
@MichiganPacker posted:Not so much for me. They fell apart in a winnable game.
They used to say Dan Marino was going to be back to several Super Bowls when he lost in his rookie year.
You only get so many chances.
The Packers choked.
MLF following in MM's footsteps since 2011.
@D J posted:So much for Love getting $50 million. Crapping the bed when he was needed the most.
Never base evaluation on a 10 game stretch, and never give a ridiculous contract based on same.Yes. That last throw was exactly what everyone was worried about with Love. He made terrible decisions in college like that. It is who is is at his core - a guy that is just good enough to lose.
It's one thing making throws when you are way ahead like last week.
Pressure situations tell you a lot about who players really are. We learned a lot about Carlson and Love in the last 10 minutes.
That was a Brett Favre level meltdown, especially because it happened with 40 seconds, two timeouts, and on a first down.
Someone can bookmark this for down the road, and I hope I'm wrong, but that decision by Love suggests to me he's not ever going to be a consistent winner.
He's not a rookie. He's had 4 years of coaching.
At his heart, he's a guy that will lose you games if it comes down to it.
Every phase had their part like usual.
All the missed tackles did not help us, either.
@titmfatied posted:Every phase had their part like usual.
It’s a team game
@D J posted:So much for Love getting $50 million. Crapping the bed when he was needed the most.
Never base evaluation on a 10 game stretch, and never give a ridiculous contract based on same.
Don’t base it on a ten game stretch where he was arguably the best quarterback in the NFL and carried the youngest team in the NFL almost to the NFC Championship Game, but do base it on one game in a torrential downpour against one of the best defensive front sevens Love will ever see?
Genius. 🤦🏻♂️
@YooperPackfan posted:What?!? It’s not Carlsons fault all of a sudden?!?
It was, but if you are a max contract QB you can't make those types of decisions.
Carlson missed, but it wasn't like he made a stupid decision. He just missed slightly right.
Love threw a pass on 1st down that would have been picked by 3 different Niner defenders. Across his body, across the field, on first down.
It was 3rd down I think
@lambeausouth posted:Don’t base it on a ten game stretch where he was arguably the best quarterback in the NFL and carried the youngest team in the NFL almost to the NFC Championship Game, but do base it on one game in a torrential downpour against one of the next defensive front sevens Love will ever see?
Genius. 🤦🏻♂️
His last pass was one of the worst decisions you'll ever see a QB make. Yes. it has to affect your judgement of him.
They may not still have won, but he made sure they didn't have a final chance.
@MichiganPacker posted:Love threw a pass on 1st down that would have been picked by 3 different Niner defenders. Across his body, across the field, on first down.
He's been drinking too much of the kool aid.
@MichiganPacker posted:It was, but if you are a max contract QB you can't make those types of decisions.
Carlson missed, but it wasn't like he made a stupid decision. He just missed slightly right.
Love threw a pass on 1st down that would have been picked by 3 different Niner defenders. Across his body, across the field, on first down.
There’s plenty of blame to go around MP.
@Boris posted:It was 3rd down I think
Nope.
We really, really need to fix ST. I’m sorry, but I don’t think Biscuitaroni is the guy for the job. It’s been our Achilles heel now how many big games? But, the forties looks bright. A few more pieces and we’re going to be monstrous. A few more taking advantage of opportunities, and we win this game. We’re so close. I expect us to dominate next year.
Would have loved to have seen this team back at Ford Field.
@MichiganPacker posted:It was, but if you are a max contract QB you can't make those types of decisions.
Carlson missed, but it wasn't like he made a stupid decision. He just missed slightly right.
Love threw a pass on 1st down that would have been picked by 3 different Niner defenders. Across his body, across the field, on first down.
The defense could’ve made a stop, Love played like shit most of the second half, Carlson missed. If we would’ve taken care of the other two things the Carlson missed is a non factor.
@NedFlanders posted:Would have loved to have seen this team back at Ford Field.
The Lions fans would have loved to as well.
It's not Love's fault, but it's also not not Love's fault. He had a chance to make a moment and shit the bed. The last drive of the season will always be most memorable good or bad. He choked and it's undeniable. Brutal throw to end the game.
Two missed interceptions that were gift wrapped.
@MichiganPacker posted:It's one thing making throws when you are way ahead like last week.
Pressure situations tell you a lot about who players really are. We learned a lot about Carlson and Love in the last 10 minutes.
That was a Brett Favre level meltdown, especially because it happened with 40 seconds, two timeouts, and on a first down.
Someone can bookmark this for down the road, and I hope I'm wrong, but that decision by Love suggests to me he's not ever going to be a consistent winner.
He's not a rookie. He's had 4 years of coaching.
At his heart, he's a guy that will lose you games if it comes down to it.
Same BS every year. Defense melts down, special teams melt down, 3rd down conversions by opponents.
Add in Love's lay once they took that 21-14 lead, it was abysmal; not just that game ending crappy throw.
It’s sort of funny of funny and sad at the same time.
We’re talking about Savage, Barry’s schemes, Carlson’s accuracy, some shaky tackling, and Love failing to get them over the hump in a key moment.
These were all things that came to light during the season as concerns and wouldn’t you know it. It shows up in the most important game of the year.
@MichiganPacker posted:His last pass was one of the worst decisions you'll ever see a QB make. Yes. it has to affect your judgement of him.
They may not still have won, but he made sure they didn't have a final chance.
I think you have to give the kid a break. He didn’t miss the FG. He didn’t drop a pick six. He was trying to win the game at the end and sis we really want the game in the hands of the most inaccurate kicker we’ve ever had? It is what it is. He’s young, and it’s a young team. The arrow is pointing up.
@Harry Manback posted:We really, really need to fix ST. I’m sorry, but I don’t think Biscuitaroni is the guy for the job. It’s been our Achilles heel now how many big games? But, the forties looks bright. A few more pieces and we’re going to be monstrous. A few more taking advantage of opportunities, and we win this game. We’re so close. I expect us to dominate next year.
Carlson being the kicker is out of Bisacci's hands. Other than the miss, our ST's outplayed theirs today
We covered, dammit.
Jordan Love to end the game.
6 for his last 11, 19 yards, 2 interceptions. With no significant pressure in his face.
He choked.
I forgot to mention how big a difference maker Christian Watson was as well. He had what, 1 catch for 10 yards?
@lambeausouth posted:Don’t base it on a ten game stretch where he was arguably the best quarterback in the NFL and carried the youngest team in the NFL almost to the NFC Championship Game, but do base it on one game in a torrential downpour against one of the best defensive front sevens Love will ever see?
Genius. 🤦🏻♂️
Biggest moment, and he wilted multiple times after they took a 21-14 lead. Had you been paying attention, it wasn't just that game ending INT.
@Harry Manback posted:I think you have to give the kid a break. He didn’t miss the FG. He didn’t drop a pick six. He was trying to win the game at the end and sis we really want the game in the hands of the most inaccurate kicker we’ve ever had? It is what it is. He’s young, and it’s a young team. The arrow is pointing up.
This could be the equivalent of the 2009 Arizona playoff game, but I don't think it is.
I think this is more post-Holmgren Favre type games. Love is good enough to win you regular season games, but he reverted to form when the pressure was on. The knock on him in college was always that he had all the tools, was a great kid, but would make poor decisions under pressure.
@Harry Manback posted:I think you have to give the kid a break. He didn’t miss the FG. He didn’t drop a pick six. He was trying to win the game at the end and sis we really want the game in the hands of the most inaccurate kicker we’ve ever had? It is what it is. He’s young, and it’s a young team. The arrow is pointing up.
Not with two brutal picks. It's winner take all and he came up short. Doesn't make him a bad QB, but it detracts from a player being magical. The playoffs are the crucible. The opportunities are rare and how you perform in those moments define your legacy. Kid is going to have a lot more based on his talent, but he definitely has to learn from tonight. Wasn't good enough against a middling QB on the other side. Turnovers are inexcusable.
@Tschmack posted:We’re talking about Savage, Barry’s schemes, Carlson’s accuracy, some shaky tackling, and Love failing to get them over the hump in a key moment.
But we're talking about it. May I remind everyone that most people said before the season started that they'd be happy if we just won 7 games?
And yet we're here in the Divisional round of the playoffs complaining about all these things. It's a good problem to have.
