Bring Pat McAfee in
The only thing he would tackle would be the buffet table.
Something not mentioned enough: MLF giving McKinney, Nixon, and Jaire days off even though they were mandated. Something like that goes over well in the locker room and shows guys that if you do the right things and do them the right way, the coach and team will reward and do right by you. 
@Fandame posted:Something not mentioned enough: MLF giving McKinney, Nixon, and Jaire days off even though they were mandated. Something like that goes over well in the locker room and shows guys that if you do the right things and do them the right way, the coach and team will reward and do right by you.
Their presence at the voluntary workouts certainly helped build that good will. I also read somewhere that Jaime was in GB for 3 weeks prior to voluntary workouts. ð
@FinnLander posted:I remember The Tasmanian Devil kicking off.
Wayne Walker, a teammate of Jerry Kramer at Idaho also kicked for the Lions. He was also a Linebacker.
@PackerHawk posted:I feel like a kicker that can tackle would be a huge asset with the new KO rules. Maybe start training a defensive player to kick off.
With as conservative as the NFL is I bet a bunch of teams are booting it through the end zone and dealing with the spot at the 35 by the end of the season. If the play is designed to have exciting returns why bother sinking so much practice time into limiting the inevitable? This setup seems like a lot bigger problem for the coverage team than the receiving team.
I'm all for devoting extensive time in training camp to exploit the return, but see a lot less reason for kick coverage. I'd rather exploit the offensive side first and not give opponents live game reps figuring their offensive situation out. Particularly for the NFC teams. Boot it through. Defense knowing where they're starting every time isn't the worst thing.
Our goof kicker can concentrate on FGs (and xps 
) instead of shredding his confidence if he misses the landing zone on a kick off and all hell breaks loose.
I'd also rather have everyone dialed in on the known known of punt coverage until the whole kick coverage thing sorts itself out. The coverage unit can't move from the 40 until the receiving team touches the ball. Just seems like a lot of advantages in place that can be exploited by the receiving team.
Special teams are generally populated by young guys and guys with potential that can be hit or miss when it comes to performing their roles. There's a non significant chance we sink a lot of time into executing a scheme and it turns out someone else comes up with a better system (not that ours was bad, out of 32 teams odds are someone's is better) and we scrap everything to change things up anyway.
Just seems like a lot more controlled certainty dealing with the 35 every time. Might be an advantage later in the season if we've earned the reputation of a team that doesn't cover and then unleashes the fully fleshed out dialed in version no one has on live game tape to pin a division foe or in a battle to capture the #1 seed.
I thought they wanted to avoid returns because of the potential for highspeed collisions and injuries. That didn't last long.
@titmfatied posted:With as conservative as the NFL is I bet a bunch of teams are booting it through the end zone and dealing with the spot at the 35 by the end of the season.
Just seems like a lot more controlled certainty dealing with the 35 every time.
There's so much to consider here - from roster construction to weather to opponent tendencies to score, etc. A fair number of commontaters have echoed the same sentiment in terms of NFL coaches generally preferring the conservative option. Modern defenses are based on " don't give up the big play"
Strategically, Bisaccia should be an advantage for GB, we'll see what happens
One thing to factor into this discussion is average field position and average drive length. Ceding 5 or 10 yards on the KO doesn't seem like much but that's right at the cutoff line for drive success based on DVOA stats.
The Football Outsiders site is gone now, so I can't link it - but there's a HUGE difference in offensive success rates starting before or after the 30 yd line.
Its not a continuum as I would have imagined, but more of a quantum thing where there's a real line in the sand for score/no score. Giving up that extra yardage may be more expensive than you're willing to pay in a given situation.
I'd guess smart teams will have several solutions based on game script and then deploy them accordingly ?
And fans will dissect those choices accordingly, same as it ever was.
Go Packers
My whole perspective on this is if 5 yards is a problem what's 15 or 20 if we don't cover it right and how much training are we losing on other aspects of the game to mitigate the 5 on the kickoff? I'll gamble on the defense defending the 35 consistently over Anders being relied on to make a impact play saving tackle no one knows how many times out of ten or one hundred.
@Satori posted:I'd guess smart teams will have several solutions based on game script and then deploy them accordingly ?
Any team coached by Bill Belichick certainly would be....looks like he'll be doing something else this year.
Maybe Bisaccia & MLF have a plan. ððŦĄ
@Dr._Bob posted:I thought they wanted to avoid returns because of the potential for highspeed collisions and injuries. That didn't last long.
The new kick off rules are designed to prevent (reduce?) high speed collisions.
@Boris posted:Any team coached by Bill Belichick certainly would be....looks like he'll be doing something else this year.
Belichick is busy bangin cheerleaders.
And the good ole USA has a lot of cheerleaders.
@Iowacheese posted:Belichick is busy bangin cheerleaders.
And the good ole USA has a lot of cheerleaders.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertai...l?fr=sycsrp_catchall
48 year age difference. I'm sure Belichick is dating her because of her advanced education in cosmetology.
Would it make sense to not use a tee on kickoffs, rather have a punter out there directionally punting so the coverage team could have tighter lanes to cover? I would think most punters could kick 55-60 yards pretty consistently with no rush (especially after subtracting the typical 14 yards not needed for the long-snapping distance that occurs on punts), which would make the "landing zone" of the kick around the 5-10 yard line.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:https://www.yahoo.com/entertai...l?fr=sycsrp_catchall
48 year age difference. I'm sure Belichick is dating her because of her advanced education in cosmetology.
The media needs to stop assuming stuff. When has Belicheat ever told the truth? She's not his girlfriend. She's his nurse. Plus, she came cheap because she's not licensed.
@Shadow posted:The media needs to stop assuming stuff. When has Belicheat ever told the truth? She's not his girlfriend. She's his nurse. Plus, she came cheap because she's not licensed.
It's cool he can get a nurse that let's him visit at 6 AM.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:It's cool he can get a nurse that let's him visit at 6 AM.
Morning meds ð
@Shadow posted:Morning meds ð
Something lasted longer than 4 hours?
Tons of great player pics here from minicamp
if yer bored, take a scroll through and see how many of these youngsters you can identify by their fresh faces or jersey numbers.
spoiler: less than you think 