@FLPACKER posted:More importantly, Love got to be coached by Tom Clements. The whole media narrative of "Love learned by watching Rodgers" is overblown. Clements working with Love on his footwork. fundamentals, pre snap reads, etc. every day, had a lot more to do with his development than him watching Rodgers play.
Well, he definitely picked up some bad habits watching Rodgers. Set your feet, young man.
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You guys forget about the TBSS thread?!
Put that Bear shit in there.
This is the pristine mutha fukkin 13 time champion Green Bay Packers thread
https://www.acmepackingcompany...p-reporting-18-games
NFL PA looking to bring OTAs to an end.
@Goalline posted:NFL PA looking to bring OTAs to an end.
Here's a well-done article from 33rd team and Bill Polian on how OTAs came into being as part of the CBA negotiations and as part of the Reggie White lawsuit settlement
https://www.the33rdteam.com/ho...hy-they-were-needed/
Organized Team Activities, better known as OTAs, is the NFL’s offseason program that grew out of negotiations between NFL Management Council members and representatives of the NFL Players Association, headed by Gene Upshaw at the time.
In the early 1990s, Commissioner Paul Tagliabue and Upshaw led delegations of negotiators developing a new collective bargaining agreement. This agreement ended years of labor strife, rancor and litigation. It also settled an ongoing lawsuit against the NFL brought by future Hall of Famer Reggie White.
The settlement also created a brand-new era of labor relations. For the players, it included a guaranteed percentage of revenue each year and free agency for players with four years of service and an expiring contract. In return, the NFL got a salary cap and long-term labor peace.
I'm sure there is a lot I don't understand about the NFLPA, and/or collective bargaining between the union and the league.
One of those is why the union would target something like eliminating OTAs as opposed to something like roster sizes. I would think that would have much more importance, especially as it relates to player safety, than practicing in shorts and helmets in May.
I did read one report that said the NFLPA would likely insist on 2 bye weeks during an 18 game season. That would be wise and prudent for the same reason.
Josh Jacobs still in rehab. Which also entirely makes sense. No need to push his hamstring in May.
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) May 29, 2024
Jordan Morgan getting some reps at LG with Elgton gone today. Should be a great opportunity for him.
— Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) May 29, 2024
Josh Jacobs is back. No Gary, Smith, Jenkins or Van Ness (Among others). pic.twitter.com/RMF5F7GDWI
— Bill Huber (@BillHuberNFL) May 29, 2024
Christian Watson just went Allen Iverson on Keisean Nixon. Broken ankles to the ground on a checkdown screen in the left flat. Nixon got up and walked away impressed.
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) May 29, 2024
Impressive days by the two No. 17s. Anders Carlson went 6-of-7 on field goals with the miss from 51. Michael Pratt led a promising 2-minute drill; a dropped pass inside the 10 and a sack ruined the drive, though.
— Bill Huber (@BillHuberNFL) May 29, 2024
"Impressive day.
DE Deslin Alexandre has 2 potential “sacks” during 2 minute drill."
cool to see him taking advantage of some absences
VanNess out because he "broke his finger, a little bit."
Then MLF qualifies "just the tip."
@Chongo posted:VanNess out because he "broke his finger, a little bit."
Then MLF qualifies "just the tip."
"Just to see what it feels like."
an o line of Walker at LT, Morgan at LG, Jenkins at center, Jacob Monk at RG, and Tom at RT sends a tingle down my leg like Chris Matthews said he had when Obama got elected.
I'll allow it 🙂
@Floridarob posted:an o line of Walker at LT, Morgan at LG, Jenkins at center, Jacob Monk at RG, and Tom at RT sends a tingle down my leg like Chris Matthews said he had when Obama got elected.
A good chiropractor can help with that tingle.
@Timmy! posted:
One of those is why the union would target something like eliminating OTAs as opposed to something like roster sizes. I would think that would have much more importance, especially as it relates to player safety, than practicing in shorts and helmets in May.
Increasing roster sizes means more competition for marginal player's jobs and more people needing to fit in under the salary cap (lowering the salaries of guys who are good enough to play in the league, but not good enough to negotiate a premier contractl) .
I have to imagine there's a lot more voting members in the union that are scraping by than players that are secure with a future in the league. In the end everyone understandably looks out for their family than the best interests of everyone who loves watching the games.
The grinders and young guys are desperately trying to earn vested veteran status. It's three seasons with at least 3 credited games as active, inactive, IR, or PUP. I don't believe the practice squad guys count. Then the benefits kick in. Not a big deal for the mega contract guys but massive for mid to lower level guys that get us excited about their potential to plug holes in the roster
Then there's also accrued seasons which determine their level of free agency. 6 games per season for that with life changing status if they can achieve it. For the guys a level below the big money contracts it's a huge deal.
Always felt like the guys scratching and clawing to provide better is the most undereported part of the game. Countless players have achieved that level of security for their families over the years and it's barely mentioned in passing. It has to be a huge milestone for some of the guys that earn their keep in training camp or pass the test as a core special teamer every year.
Justin Jefferson is a big off season story this year. He's going to be fine no matter what his outcome is . With a little poking around I imagine there's major life implications for a couple of the guys trying to make every NFL roster this year. I can't imagine the let down of someone working their whole life to chase a dream and it ends one game short of all the benefits a vested veteran is granted. If I'm a player the game that gets me over is my personal super bowl whether it's game 1 or the actual super bowl.
@titmfatied posted:Increasing roster sizes means more competition for marginal player's jobs and more people needing to fit in under the salary cap (lowering the salaries of guys who are good enough to play in the league, but not good enough to negotiate a premier contractl) .
I have to imagine there's a lot more voting members in the union that are scraping by than players that are secure with a future in the league. In the end everyone understandably looks out for their family than the best interests of everyone who loves watching the games.
The grinders and young guys are desperately trying to earn vested veteran status. It's three seasons with at least 3 credited games as active, inactive, IR, or PUP. I don't believe the practice squad guys count. Then the benefits kick in. Not a big deal for the mega contract guys but massive for mid to lower level guys that get us excited about their potential to plug holes in the roster
Then there's also accrued seasons which determine their level of free agency. 6 games per season for that with life changing status if they can achieve it. For the guys a level below the big money contracts it's a huge deal.
Always felt like the guys scratching and clawing to provide better is the most undereported part of the game. Countless players have achieved that level of security for their families over the years and it's barely mentioned in passing. It has to be a huge milestone for some of the guys that earn their keep in training camp or pass the test as a core special teamer every year.
Justin Jefferson is a big off season story this year. He's going to be fine no matter what his outcome is . With a little poking around I imagine there's major life implications for a couple of the guys trying to make every NFL roster this year. I can't imagine the let down of someone working their whole life to chase a dream and it ends one game short of all the benefits a vested veteran is granted. If I'm a player the game that gets me over is my personal super bowl whether it's game 1 or the actual super bowl.
Well said. It’s the guys like former packer Krys Barnes who now has his four seasons under his belt after being a UDFA and will someday get a pension. Had lunch with a guy from Bakersfield who now owns real estate and an auto repair business. He got four seasons in as an Ol with the Ninets and Bengals before it ended. Saved what he could and set himself up nicely.
@titmfatied posted:Increasing roster sizes means more competition for marginal player's jobs and more people needing to fit in under the salary cap (lowering the salaries of guys who are good enough to play in the league, but not good enough to negotiate a premier contractl) .
Only the top 51 payed players on a roster count against the cap during the offseason. Once the season starts, it's the 53 man roster that counts against the cap. So if the roster size was 90 or 80 or 100, it wouldn't make a difference to the cap.
In the past, the owners reasons for not having a larger roster where 2 fold
They didn't want the 53 up to 55 or more because that opens the door for gimmick players and they felt the gimmick players cheapened the game.
A 7 foot tall TE who can block kicks and can't be covered by a 5'10 CB
A 400 lb full back for short yardage, a track star who runs a 9.7 hundred etc
The other reason is money and while the salary cap handles the player pay, the benefits are a substantial cost for the owners and more players = more health insurance and more concussion liabilities.
As titm noted above, the NFLPA didn't want to add more players either, also for selfish but understandable reasons.
I'd advocate for 55 on the roster and 50 actives on game day. They can't all be active on Sunday because one team may have 8 players injured while the other team only 3. By limiting the game-day rosters it levels the playing field on game day.
@KenIngalls:
Today the Packers have $20.59M of cap space.
📈On Sunday De'Vondre Campbell's contract falls off netting $9.66M
📉When they sign Morgan & Bullard it will cost $1.97M
Afterwards the Packers will have $28.28M of space to cover in-season costs and Jordan Love's pending extension.
Per Mark Murphy on packers.com this morning:
The first training camp practice will be July 22 at 10:30 a.m. The annual shareholders meeting will be that same day at 3 p.m.
Rookies and selected players will report on July 17 and veterans on July 21.
@Chongo posted:Josh Jacobs still in rehab. Which also entirely makes sense. No need to push his hamstring in May.
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) May 29, 2024
You are never really a Green Bay Packer until you've had a hamstring injury. Welcome to the club, Josh Jacobs.
More preseason hype.
Can he kick?
No, for that you want Baures. He kicked a lot last night.
I know little about baseball, but kicking doesn’t sound like a desirable trait in a player. 🤣
Well you need to learn and watch the Brewers. You are missing out a fun team to watch. They are much like the Packers last season. A bunch of young guys are not afraid to lay it all on the line so to speak and yet have no fear of failure.
Lukas Van Ness, who broke his thumb last week (just the tip, as Matt LaFleur so eloquently noted), is back practicing this week. pic.twitter.com/y0Qrlibc7T
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) June 4, 2024
Elgton back at practice...Morgan repping at LT and RT.
I don’t know who was supposed to block #Packers rookie LB Edgerrin Cooper, but no one did. And when he gets downhill, it’s like being shot out of a cannon. Would’ve dropped Josh Jacobs for a 3-yard loss.
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) June 4, 2024
The key word Gutey used when describing the S position was “interchangeable.” At Tuesday’s OTA practice, that was on full display w/ McKinney, Bullard, Williams lining up all over, and on the field together with late movement.
— Paul Bretl (@Paul_Bretl) June 5, 2024
More from yesterday⬇️https://t.co/PUXrXW8ej7
Glad to hear that Valentine bulked up a bit.
20 lbs is a lot to pack on, and if it's all/mostly muscle, that's even more impressive!
Enegbare's story remains incredible. To go from a required surgery to repair his ACL, to not, to practicing, to exceeding expectations...wow! Good for him.
Hell, even the kicking competition is exciting!
The fever that the Packers caught during the 2nd half of the season has carried over to this year, and everybody wants to catch it. I'm loving the change(s) it has brought to the team. Football feels 'fresh', much more so than it has over the last 5 years or so.
@titmfatied posted:
My boy is gonna win this thing
