6-8 weeks healing time...

A few more comments beyond the tweet in the post above.

Rodgers plans on playing

Speaking on his weekly radio show on Nov. 19, Rodgers insisted that his season wasn’t over, even if it meant coming back with the team out of contention.

Rodgers collar bone is in the process of knitting. Rodgers himself I would think feels fine. The issue is how strong is the knit, that is something Rodgers can not tell.

Rodger may need MM following Doctors advice to save himself from himself.

Then again he may be good to go, we just don't know.

I go back to the reports of him taking snaps and throwing the the locker room after being x-rayed right after the injury.

If those reports are correct, the fracture couldn't have been all that significant.

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-...carthy-until-tuesday

If you were hoping to hear what Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy had to say about quarterback Aaron Rodgers’ availability for Sunday’s game against the Atlanta Falcons, you’ll have to wait a day.

McCarthy’s previously scheduled news conference for Monday afternoon at 4:45 p.m. local time was pushed back a day.

McCarthy will now speak to reporters on Tuesday at 3:15 p.m. local time.

That'll be after Rodger's radio show.

Packers sign RB Kahlil Bell.  Need to make room on Roster.

That must mean Rodgers to IR!!!!!!!!

Of course he would try to stay in the game.  His adrenaline is pumping & the break probably doesn't hurt as much right away as it did later on.  Regardless, I don't see how tossing in the locker room has any bearing on the severity of the injury.

They put Franklin on IR earlier. Bell is his replacement.

They brought up an ILB (Aewya or something) from the practice squad when they IRd Franklin.

Maybe they'll cut Flynn?

Who was injured Thursday or was inactive due to injury? Taylor maybe? 

Actually 2 guys have to be cut or put on IR. Cobb will soon be eligible to come off IR and since the Packers right now have 53 on the active roster 2 need to go to make room for Bell and Cobb.  Maybe EDS is going to IR.  Or maybe Cobb is going to full IR.

AR getting scanned today

McCarthy moved his Monday presser to 4:45p this afternoon.

Rodgers has moved his radio show today from 1:30p to 5p.

Per the IR Designated for return rules - Cobb is eligible to begin practicing this week and then is eligible to play next week vs DAL.

yeah, good luck with that.

Was eligible not legible?

A few weeks ago, when the Chiefs were 9-0, I was going to start a MARK IT DOWN!!! thread with my two predictions being that the Chiefs would lose the next 3 games and that Randall Cobb would not play again this year.

‏@WesHod   MM: Aaron Rodgers has not been cleared yet from medical staff. He'll practice in limited fashion. We haven't ruled him out for game

Matt Flynn will take the starter reps, blah blah ****ing blah

I just quit watching the presser after that because you know where this is going.... "Aaron wants to play... medical decision... not cleared yet..."

I say we just IR Rodgers and bring McMillian back.  He just needs more time to develop.  

draft and develop baby! As long as you have HOF QB, you can take all the time you want.

Would you take 6-6-1 and a 1/2 game out of first place?

So he was scanned last week Tuesday and AR said it wasn't where he expected it to be, but he cleared 2 of the 3 hurdles for game clearance. McCarthy today said Rodgers would do some things tomorrow that he didn't do last week, and then would be checked out Wednesday. --  Not one of the reporters followed up on what those things are that he'd be doing and no one asked what the check-up on Wednesday would entail. Will he be testing the strength some how? Would there be a non-impact pain test? Will there be a scan Wednesday?

If the 3 tests were strength, flexibility and bone scan and AR passes the strength and flexibility tests...what would they have done 20 years ago? Or 10 years ago?

Before the days of weekly bone scans were players re-injuring collarbones more often than they do today? Back then if a guy passed the strength and flexibility tests...they probably let him play. Maybe do another x-ray. Was that the wrong thing to do? 

Not by the standards of the time. Did you see Majik on the field yesterday? How was he walking? Hasn't he had over 10 surgeries to his ankle? Playing through pain was once the standard, but it also was the long term cost. Good friend of mine (54 yo) played HS and College ball... knee and hip replacements and he can hardly walk. I know the players want to play because the window of opportunity is so small, but is the short term reward worth the long term pain? One example, Mark Schlereth (sp?), has said that he'd do it all again, exactly the same way... 

strength and flexibility test

From Dr. David Chao at National Football Post.

Rodgers was injured against the Chicago Bears five weeks ago. A non-displaced (in place) distal (end) clavicle (collarbone) fracture occurred when he was dumped on his left (non throwing) shoulder. Medically, the returnwould not be based on pain tolerance or Rodgers’ ability to throw/play. Early fracture healing is the key to prevent displacement (bones moving out of place) and further injury. If re-injury occurs, Rodgers would likely need season-ending surgery. My medical analysis has not changed over the five weeks since the injury, with an estimate of 4-6 weeks needed for a return to the field.

 

Mid-shaft clavicle fractures typically take 6-8 weeks to heal. Many times, surgical plating can decrease the recovery time. Saints wide receiver Marques Colston (2011) and Chargers running back Ryan Mathews (2012) are two recent examples of early return. Each missed only two games after surgery. A plate converts the slower secondary intention healing (by soft callous) to that of the quicker, stronger primary intention healing (by hard bone). Essentially, bones heal more quickly when the broken pieces are held firmly next to each other by a plate.

 

Aaron Rodgers has not needed surgery because the ends of his break are already holding next to each other. In addition, a distal fracture would be harder to plate. However, the cancellous (spongy) bone at the end of the collarbone heals more quickly as opposed to the cortical (hard shaft). Rodgers may also have a bone stimulator, which sometimes induces quicker healing.

 

Fracture healing does not make a sudden leap. The process occurs day by day and heals a little more every 24 hours. The idea of a magic threshold whereby the Packers doctor declares the bone completely healed is a fallacy. In fact, bones continue to heal and remodel for at least six months. If one could guarantee Rodgers would not be hit, he could have played weeks ago.

 

The doctor’s clearance isn’t based solely on the x-ray or CT scan findings. It is a balance of risk (re-injury) and reward (playing). It also involves balancing the patient’s desires with an informed consent of the risks. This is why being a good team physician is an art, not a strict science.

 

What happens if Rodgers returns and re-injures and displaces the fracture? Based on my experience, surgery would be required with a minimum of three months recovery. The good news is that there would not be any significant anticipated long-term health or functional issues after recovery.

 

The Packers medical staff has done a good job of being conservative and protecting Aaron Rodgers by holding him out for five weeks. I am in no way second-guessing their decision. Based on my NFL medical experience (I have not seen film or examined Rodgers), I feel that the timetable is ripe for his full return based on the risk/reward equation and informed consent.

In his press conference today, MM indicated that they are preparing as if Flynn will once again be the starter.

 "Rodgers may also have a bone stimulator, which sometimes induces quicker healing."

And I thought steroids were illegal in football.

Fluffer?

Maybe he's trying PRP?

I know Rodgers is Gay, but now you say he is a rabbit?

I saw Majik on the 4th floor near the alumni room talking with fans. He looked like he was still 25 years old. Great hair.

I am jealous.....

Met Majik about 5 years ago---my cousin was in media in GB and made a point of having Majik meet me and 4 of my sibs at a pre-game event before the Steelers kicked our ass at Lambeau.

As nice as could be and genuinely friendly---although I imagine he has to do meet and greets constantly.

Definitely Packer People.

Not only great hair----great skin and yes, dude does look like he's 25.

Hair - fantastic, no doubt.

Sweater - the ol' standby??

Rodgers-Nelson car-pool chat

Not much knew in the article... or did Jordy unknowingly tell [us] all the timeline the Packers and Rodgers knew / were working toward since day 1?

“He had target dates (since the injury happened) that he had kind of told us, so you want to be updated and see how he’s doing and check on him. Because it’s easy for a guy when they get hurt – no matter who it is – to be kind of put on the back burner. ‘OK, we’ll see you in six weeks.’ You don’t want to make him feel that way. You want to still talk to him but you don’t want to be constantly, ‘How’s the shoulder? How’s the shoulder? How’s the shoulder?’ You just want to talk to him. But yeah, there’s been [some] conversations.”

Shut Rodgers down. This team wouldn't even win a playoff game anyway. This club is so conserative with injuries that it contributes to the "softness" label the team has. Look at AP. Carted off the field last week and he is back this week. This culture of coddling injuries is ridiculous.

another indisputable argument about why we should be more like the vikings