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Originally posted by chickenboy:
Elway and Montana were money in the "clutch." If you look at Elway's numbers (specifically INTs and rating, especially early in his career) he wouldn't appear "clutch" to the statistic eye but he sure was to the naked eye.
I still remember in the second SB against the Bengals, in the final drive, Montana threw a pass right in the hands of a Bengal.

I thought Elway's numbers in some SB's were so-so, but to be fair, so much was on his shoulders.
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Originally posted by GusBob:
Pablo

Thanks for the link.

I think the Eagles will study the Dolphin game film and play ball control, keeping our offense away from their defense


We are a way different team than when we played the Dolphins. They can try to play ball control but that is not Vick's game. Play fast and go for big plays, that's Vick. Bring it on, either way Dan Compers will have a scheme for it.
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Originally posted by Iowacheese:
I defer to the "experts" but am guessing you have to be stoned to understand some of these opinions around here.


It's not helping me one bit, I can tell you that. Cool

Did you know that our whole universe could be just a single molecule under the fingernail of some nefarious giant? Or that one molecule under your fingernail might be a whole universe?

If that doesn't make any sense, go read a couple more phaedrus posts and come back and try it again.
Well MN,

Your name has "bong" in it and I don't think that helps your cause!

Anyway, no offense intended to anyone.

It's all the whole close games argument. When I did the whole points scored/points allowed topic and ranked teams by that measurement, two teams were different than all others in terms of how well those numbers were and their win-loss records.

Packers and Chargers.
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Originally posted by GusBob:
Pablo

Thanks for the link.

I think the Eagles will study the Dolphin game film and play ball control, keeping our offense away from their defense


A few problems with that theory.

1. CMIII and a couple of DL didn't play in that game (we didn't have Green yet).

2. The Philly OL isn't particularly good.

3. Andy Reid likes to pass. A lot.
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Originally posted by phaedrus:
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Originally posted by chickenboy:
Elway and Montana were money in the "clutch." If you look at Elway's numbers (specifically INTs and rating, especially early in his career) he wouldn't appear "clutch" to the statistic eye but he sure was to the naked eye.
I still remember in the second SB against the Bengals, in the final drive, Montana threw a pass right in the hands of a Bengal.

I thought Elway's numbers in some SB's were so-so, but to be fair, so much was on his shoulders.


Actually, that pass was long before that drive.
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Originally posted by MN SnowBong:
phaedrus: Does your tendency to overanalyze every shred of minutiae down to the angstrom increase or decrease your enjoyment of watching the games?
I don't analyze much at all during the games. I miss a lot. I am too emotionally charged up to even want to think of bothering to do so.

OK, I guess perhaps I "over-analyze" a bit at my leisure, but I don't think recognizing and delving a bit into how the Packers can be this good statistically and yet finding themselves losing to teams like the Lions or Redskins or setting a team penalty record in a loss to the Bears isn't cause for asking a couple questions and scoping out why.

This team could easily have lost just 2 games.

And FWIW, I am not only a huge critical guy and am open to the close losses mainly being due to random crap luck (save Crosby and Redskins).

For example, I marvel at their depth and think TT should be GM of the year.
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Originally posted by phaedrus:
OK, I guess perhaps I "over-analyze" a bit at my leisure, but I don't think recognizing and delving a bit into how the Packers can be this good statistically and yet finding themselves losing to teams like the Lions or Redskins or setting a team penalty record in a loss to the Bears isn't cause for asking a couple questions and scoping out why.


Is this your way of saying you're just a curious guy?
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Originally posted by MN SnowBong:
Did you know that our whole universe could be just a single molecule under the fingernail of some nefarious giant? Or that one molecule under your fingernail might be a whole universe?

If that doesn't make any sense, go read a couple more phaedrus posts and come back and try it again.
Nice bong btw....is that a chicken
I think it's fair to say that the Packers have under-achievied on ST's and O-line this year, and most (if not all) losses can be blamed on these 2 areas.
I also think that this is a reflection on coaching deficiency more than it is on the players themselves.
It's also fair to say the Pack has over-achieved on defense this year, and that also is a reflection on coaching.
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Originally posted by Timmy!:
I think it's fair to say that the Packers have under-achievied on ST's and O-line this year, and most (if not all) losses can be blamed on these 2 areas.
I also think that this is a reflection on coaching deficiency more than it is on the players themselves.
It's also fair to say the Pack has over-achieved on defense this year, and that also is a reflection on coaching.


I think it's fair to say that this post is dum.

Timmy! We're in the playoffs! Enjoy the ride! Smile! Embrace the moment! Do it for Johnny! Stay golden! Thanks!
Now Aaronstory, your original ( and erroneous)gripe was about MM's offense and I might note that the Packers offense and Rodgers have scored 7 TDs in the playoffs so far

The first time in NFL history that a QB scored 7 TDs in his first 2 playoff games

I will also note that Rodgers threw 4 TDs yesterday, its just that Mr. Jones decided not to catch one of them

Might be a good time to try a different meme, but ya gotta go with whatever drives traffic now don't ya ?

Cool
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Originally posted by Aaronstory:
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Originally posted by Henry:
PROVE ME WRONG


Whooo boy did they ever there. Esp Rodgers on that last third down. Man, you just can't BUY clutch performances like that! Yes! Punt-and-pray-the-defense-bails-you-out FEVER! Catch it baby! Whooo hooo!

Smiler


I sometimes think you get treated unfairly on this site, but when you come here with stuff like this, I can see how it happens. Rodgers won a playoff game, and was masterful doing it. He was masterful in his other playoff game, but the defense decided not to help him out in that one.
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Originally posted by Aaronstory:
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Originally posted by Henry:
PROVE ME WRONG


Whooo boy did they ever there. Esp Rodgers on that last third down. Man, you just can't BUY clutch performances like that! Yes! Punt-and-pray-the-defense-bails-you-out FEVER! Catch it baby! Whooo hooo!

Smiler
The plays are coming from the booth. Sure, Rodgers could decide to screw whatever play is called, but isn't your criticism misdirected? It is either MM or his offensive coordinator who did the whole "punt and pray" shtick, if that is what they did.
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Originally posted by PROVE ME WRONG:
Because when it comes to the offense, apart from the opening game of the 2009 season against the Bears and the last minutes of the game in Atlanta this season, you have pretty much been able to count on them choking away whatever chance at victory the Packers have.


Ah yes. The meme of the retarded. Guys like Cowherd, and no talent hacks like Nagler come with this, because they have no ability to look beyond the stats that lazy hacks provide. ZOMG! Rodgers isn't clutch! The offense is to blame! Why in all but two games Rodgers and the offense has choked!

2008
Rodgers leads the team to FG position vs Minny in a dome. Crosby misses. For intellectually dishonest tards, that means Rodgers choked.

Rodgers leads the team to a lead late against Carolina, which the ST and Def give back to Carolina in under a minute. For intellectually dishonest tards, that means Rodgers choked.

Rodgers leads the team to tie the game late against Houston, which the defense proceeds to then give away on next drive after pinning Houston on their own 3. For intellectually dishonest tards, that means Rodgers choked.

Rodgers leads the team to a lead late against Jax, which the defense gives back on the next drive. For intellectually dishonest tards, that means Rodgers choked.

Rodgers leads the team to game winning FG position vs Chicago as the game expires. Crosby gets it blocked. For intellectually dishonest tards, that means Rodgers choked.

2009
Rodgers leads the team to take the lead with 2 to go against Pittsburgh. Defense gives up GW TD as time basically expires. For intellectually dishonest tards, that means Rodgers choked.

2010
Rodgers leads team on late drive against Chicago. With just over 2 to go Jones fumbles at midfield. Defense allows GW FG. For intellectually dishonest tards, that means Rodgers choked.

Rodgers leads team to GW FG position late in game vs WA. Crosby hits the upright. For intellectually dishonest tards, that means Rodgers choked.

Rodgers leads the team on a 16 play 90 yard drive to tie the game against the Falcons in ATL. ST gives the game away. For intellectually dishonest tards, that means Rodgers choked. What's funny here is that the tard gives Rodgers a pass here, but didn't in any of the other examples which a less lazy and intellectually dishonest writer could have found easily is baffling.

All the heat you get here is fully deserved. You're a lazy incompetent hack.
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