Sounds like pain-free -- or maybe even tolerable -- standing or sitting is possible for him only for very short time periods. He's one of my favorites.
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Tip of the iceberg. He played such a short time. You know the vast majority of guys who play for 10+ years are physically a total wreck. The NFLFU should just automatically pay for the medical care for life for every player who is on an NFL roster for say, two years. To make them go through hoops and hoops and hoops to get worker's comp is a joke.
Because the NFL has a big pile of money, and that's just not fair.
Litigation is much more fun, and a better use of the funds.
I didn't say that. You said that. Did I say that? I didn't say that. I think that's so funny that you think I said that. I didn't say that.
quote:Originally posted by GBFanForLife:
Why?
Damn takers.
quote:Originally posted by Fedya:
Because the NFL has a big pile of money, and that's just not fair.
What's not fair about it?
What bugs me is I support them so fully yet they charge me to go to the games. What's up wit dat? Talk about unfair.
I don't pay unless I choose to.
Tough life after football for so many.
and you are right Boris, here we go.
"I talked to so many guys going through the same thing. Owners are trying to get rid of workers comp totally for former players because it costs too much. They don't want to pay for any future health care."
Employers are just greedy bastards, and it's the more money they make, the less they want to give to the employees that made them rich.
Hate to hear about this, there should be some benefit these players can get. The NFL is worth BILLIONS.
"I talked to so many guys going through the same thing. Owners are trying to get rid of workers comp totally for former players because it costs too much. They don't want to pay for any future health care."
Employers are just greedy bastards, and it's the more money they make, the less they want to give to the employees that made them rich.
Hate to hear about this, there should be some benefit these players can get. The NFL is worth BILLIONS.
I find it a bit disingenuous to talk about Owners as "greedy bastards" when every player to a man has the opportunity to walk away from the game at any time, or not play at all. Kinda hard to feel sorry for guys that chase millions and sacrifice their bodies in the pursuit.
And while the issue did come up in he recent CBA negotiations, if here isn't a significant deal in place, that's he NFLPA's fault. They negotiated the deal.
And the NFL is only worth BILLIONS because we make it so. If you think it's unfair, don't watch, go, or invest your time in the game.
In the end these men are doing what anyone would do if they could- chase the dream. And if you've played the game, you know some of it's consequences. And with more studies being done, there's more info every day. When you mak that choice to play, you're assuming the risk to get the reward.
And while the issue did come up in he recent CBA negotiations, if here isn't a significant deal in place, that's he NFLPA's fault. They negotiated the deal.
And the NFL is only worth BILLIONS because we make it so. If you think it's unfair, don't watch, go, or invest your time in the game.
In the end these men are doing what anyone would do if they could- chase the dream. And if you've played the game, you know some of it's consequences. And with more studies being done, there's more info every day. When you mak that choice to play, you're assuming the risk to get the reward.
In 1991, near the summit of Majik's career, the average NFL salary had risen to about $422,000 -- and that was up almost 19% from the year before. Chasing 'millions'? Well, sorta.
The NFLPA negotiated the present contract -- but it takes two to tango, they can't simply dictate terms. And the bulk of the NFLPA's active members are surely active players, many of whom are mentally and emotionally mere kids. I have read of selfishness in their ranks when it came to doing anything at all for the old-timers who actually built the league that they expect to feather their nests. I certainly would agree with your implied assertion that owners have no monopoly on being greedy. Greed can ruin anything.
Sorry, Music, that in your evident beliefs the ordinary sympathy one human might feel for another in a very bad situation seems lost because that person may have pursued a risky career.
The NFLPA negotiated the present contract -- but it takes two to tango, they can't simply dictate terms. And the bulk of the NFLPA's active members are surely active players, many of whom are mentally and emotionally mere kids. I have read of selfishness in their ranks when it came to doing anything at all for the old-timers who actually built the league that they expect to feather their nests. I certainly would agree with your implied assertion that owners have no monopoly on being greedy. Greed can ruin anything.
Sorry, Music, that in your evident beliefs the ordinary sympathy one human might feel for another in a very bad situation seems lost because that person may have pursued a risky career.
But the issue raised isn't whether or not its ok to have sympathy- it was fairness. That it isn't fair that the NFL is a $9 BIL industry and the players don't get worker's comp for injuries sustained while playing the game.
That so many players leave he game limping, debilitated physically, mentally, etc. is certainly a cause for concern For anyone intending to pursue a career as a football player. But what constitute fairness? What amount would be considered fair? If you're going to call the owners greedy bastards for not ponying up a substantial part of the pie for players not in the game anymore, would the NFL even survive as an entity? And if I remember correctly, there is insurance for players after they retire. It's not as if they all get cut loose.
Played are greedy too- the central part of the most recent CBA was what % of league revenue was going to be available to the players. Total, TV deal? When the dust cleared, they agreed to X. And then what happens? $100MIL contracts start popping up everywhere. What % of hat is fair to the 53rd man on a roster killing himself on STs for 1/100th of that? WHat about the NFLPA Chair and their team of lawyers? How much for them is fair?
Why not tell all players "here's your salary regardless of performance and merit, and here's your life of benefits." How much would the league be worth then?
That so many players leave he game limping, debilitated physically, mentally, etc. is certainly a cause for concern For anyone intending to pursue a career as a football player. But what constitute fairness? What amount would be considered fair? If you're going to call the owners greedy bastards for not ponying up a substantial part of the pie for players not in the game anymore, would the NFL even survive as an entity? And if I remember correctly, there is insurance for players after they retire. It's not as if they all get cut loose.
Played are greedy too- the central part of the most recent CBA was what % of league revenue was going to be available to the players. Total, TV deal? When the dust cleared, they agreed to X. And then what happens? $100MIL contracts start popping up everywhere. What % of hat is fair to the 53rd man on a roster killing himself on STs for 1/100th of that? WHat about the NFLPA Chair and their team of lawyers? How much for them is fair?
Why not tell all players "here's your salary regardless of performance and merit, and here's your life of benefits." How much would the league be worth then?
quote:Originally posted by Fedya:
Because the NFL has a big pile of money, and that's just not fair.
Donald Trump has a big pile of money too.
So does Michael Moore.
That's not fair either.
quote:Originally posted by Fountainfox:
In 1991, near the summit of Majik's career, the average NFL salary had risen to about $422,000 -- and that was up almost 19% from the year before. Chasing 'millions'? Well, sorta.
$412,000 in 1991 would be equivalent to $710,000 in money today. And that's only taking into account 1 year.
He made more money in his career than most that post here will ever realize. And he admitted that he knew the consequences and would do it again in a heartbeat.
It's sad, but there's no reason to pity him or any of the players that do the same thing.
But that's not fair.
We need fair.
We need fair.
Paying a guy to kill a rat $1,600 is fair, right?
If some chucklehead is willing to pay that....yes.
BTW....it was 5 rats, so that's like $300 per.....
A happy wife is worth it.
Latest problem is fleas.......got any quotes?
BTW....it was 5 rats, so that's like $300 per.....
A happy wife is worth it.
Latest problem is fleas.......got any quotes?
Not willing to pay per flea, however.
You're a scratch then?
Majik signed for 1.5 mil with a possible 6 hundred thousand in incentives in 1990. He was not only chasing millions but he caught them.
Everybody has a price.
You could have held out for more than $1.35.
Slut.
Slut.
quote:Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
BTW....it was 5 rats, so that's like $300 per.....
A happy wife is worth it.
It might have been cheaper to get a cat.
quote:Latest problem is fleas.......got any quotes?
Try shaving your back hair. It will be easier to spot the fleas.
Hateful.
quote:Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
You could have held out for more than $1.35.
Slut.
I really wanted that 7 Eleven hot dog.
quote:Hateful.
I'm not the one who hates [catts].
Well okay then. Didn't realize I opened such a huge can o' worms. Maybe the NFLFU shouldn't be expected to pay for all medical costs. But, what if the NFL offered health insurance to players for after their career ended? Yes, it would be expensive, but so's an ongoing knee problem. (One year, one knee, four surgeries, $500,000 later in my case. That would eat up a large chunk of salary for all but the star players.) The NFLFU would probably have to pony up a bit, but so would the players. I think that would that be more "fair" all the way around.
We can say, "The players know the risks going into it," but so do cops, garbage collectors, furniture movers, plumbers, construction workers, etc. All carry different physical risks, and all get help with insurance.
We can say, "The players know the risks going into it," but so do cops, garbage collectors, furniture movers, plumbers, construction workers, etc. All carry different physical risks, and all get help with insurance.
The NFL offers 5 years of health coverage after a players retirement.
Discussed Here among many other places. They are on their own after that.
Discussed Here among many other places. They are on their own after that.
Maybe I'm rong, but I think the NFLFU has an issue with the going rates of health care to hand out free health care passes to former players. There's the cost of what it should cost to care for them vs. the cost they're actually going to end up having to pay.
Which I guess is a whole other can of worms.
Which I guess is a whole other can of worms.
quote:Originally posted by Jaymo:
$412,000 in 1991 would be equivalent to $710,000 in money today. And that's only taking into account 1 year.
He made more money in his career than most that post here will ever realize.
You've obviously never met derpchicago