Axing Dom ...

Garbage time points still don't matter.

Yards still don't matter.

Players still aren't making plays. That's not a scheme issue. Missing tackles and losing the LOS isn't a scheme issue. No scheme works when those things happen.

They have more talent and fewer rookies which should make a difference.

Regardless of scheme or what is happening the D is not performing and change needs to be made. Promoting from within the staff is idiotic because it doesn't solve the problem. It just creates chaos.

I was ridiculed a few yrs ago when I voiced my displeasure with Dom but right now I question the talent level on the D side of the ball.  Clay, Daniels and some young guys in the backfield that may or may not be good and what else?   Raji?  Peppers? Perry?Burnett? I dont see many difference makers.

the safety blitz, which was late coming, with 50 seconds or so at the end of the 1st half was the final straw for me.  that was some top notch stupid.  that stupid call made me officially over with Dom.  he needs to go. shake it up sugaree.

Why duck, it's the truth.

 

In the NFL teams are always looking to exploit matchups. The Chargers found a couple they liked and pounded the hell out of them.

 

Denver said "Hey, we can do that too. The bye week won't make Hyde or Heyward any faster, nor will an inside linebacker become serviceable."

 

Shields is their one DB with true speed, Gunter the one with size (and he's a raw rookie still). Dix is all over the place, Burnett can't stay healthy, Rollins is dinged up too, and Randall looks good, but that's for a rookie.

 

The d-line is a bunch of guys, despite where some were drafted.

Yes

Good defenses are good, disciplined and effective regardless of the score.  We've seen letdowns over and over again when holding a lead.  Another symptom.  

 

Hemorrhaging yards is a problem.  It seems to currently make it significantly easier for teams to score.  

 

Players have not been making plays.  How you can consistently distance that trend from coaching baffles me.  I think the defense has played below capacity for far to long.  If coaching doesn't matter, then go ahead and promote from within.  Or find someone else.  Hoping that Dom's squad will come around eventually is just a ****ty plan.  

 

 

My questions with coaches is always: 1) Can they motivate the players to give great energy & emotion. 2) Are the players physically capable of carrying out the scheme 3) Are the players mentally capable of carrying out the scheme.

This conversation is just ridiculous at this point. It's been beyond stupid since that divisional playoff game in San Francisco almost 3 years ago where they gave up 579 yards to a hack like Kaepernick. I'll admit I kept defending Dom after that point (mostly because I wanted to fool myself into believing the Packers were contenders), but I was wrong to do so. Completely and utterly wrong.

Why do some ignore that the Ravens "promoted from within" and won the Super Bowl just 3 seasons ago?

 

Sticking with a formula that is not working is idiotic and creates dissension like we saw on the sidelines today. 

 

 

Except that the Pack is not currently the #2 seed. The Vikes are (3-0 in the Division versus 1-0 GB).

Best summation of the talent so far Herschel.

       
Sure, one team will find something that works against another and then everybody will exploit that weakness until it stops working.

I just figured "The Blueprint" has become another x4 meme and if I brought that up, it might cause a little consternation. 

Maybe it's just time for a different voice. 

 

Listening to the post game on the radio was a whole 'nother level of stupid.

 

Listen, if anyone of us had the answer, we'd be working in the NFL...

I am guessing Dom is really missing Slodum to take some of the heat.

 

That being said I have come to fear 3rd and long with our defense going back to some previous fired DC's.  That was the dagger in a game that we needed.  

We can go back and forth on this like always Bong and pick at every little thing, but in the end I just don't think firing Capers is the best move mid-season. I don't think someone on this staff is going to turn it around, it might even make things worse.

McCarthy needs to find a new DC after the season, there's talent there for Capers to work with and for whatever reason it's not getting done. I don't think Capers is terrible, but you do so in the end it's whatever. I don't think he's been elite, but I think his system and probably any other system can work if players are executing properly.

How many years do we have to tolerate these players who cannot execute properly?  

 

It was Cam Cameron. He had no businesses coordinating any offense beyond PeeWee football.

I don't think Capers will be fired either.  

 

 

Tell the NFL to update that link. As their website shows us as 2 seed. 

EDIT - don't tell them anything as shockingly enough, the NFL is correct and you are not.  GB is currently the 2 seed.

 

Tiebreakers are

1. Head to head (haven't played)

2. Best division winning % (both 1.000)

3. Best common opponents winning %.  GB is 4-1, Minny is 3-2.

 

So, as I said, Green Bay is currently the 2 seed.  

Underachieving teams do frequently play a little better when the head guys are fired mid-season. Not because the coaches are any better (they generally aren't, which is why it's typically a mistake to give an interim coach the job), but because the players start to think "maybe I'll be next!" if they don't pick up their play. It's an easy way to create fear in a locker room, and fear isn't always a bad thing. All of this is idle speculation anyway; unless something crazy happens (like the Lions put up 50 points next week, and even that might not do it), Dom is going to be the coordinator for the rest of the season. I wish that wasn't the case, but it isn't a Mike McCarthy move to fire a guy or make radical changes in the middle of the season.

 

The best we can hope for is for Mike to spend a lot more time in the defensive meetings. He did that back in 2006 with Bob Sanders's dumpster fire, and it had a very positive impact over the last four games (that, combined with benching KGB and only using him as a situational pass-rusher)

I don't care.  At least we will know he is gone.  That's making it better.  No? 

No but I see Carson Palmer putting up video game like numbers

I'd fire Dom tonight. GB has given up an average of 490 yards per the last three weeks against offenses that aren't exactly lighting things up on offense. 

 

This defense cant get worse than historically inept. 

It can get worse.

 

 

For the want of a block, tackle, sack, 1st down or a recovered onside kick...

 

For Want of a Nail

 

Please be accurate, 500+ yards per week the past 3 weeks

Dom is our Jay Cutler.  Can't get rid of him. 

Jay still has potential

God I miss Fritz Shurmer.  

I'm not smart enough to know if the problem with our defense is that bad players aren't executing, bad position coaches aren't helping good players, or if good players and good coaches are being given bad schemes by a bad coordinator. What I don't like is the head coach saying there's nothing wrong with the team.

 

I don't know what kinds of changes can or should be made at this point in the season, but we certainly won't go far in the playoffs if we continue to play the way we have been. Something has got to change.

Newton missed some really easy throws today.  If we were facing a decent passing QB today it would have been a 50 burger.

 

Chompers needed to go in 2013..  MM has been loyal to a fault to his coordinators and it has cost us potential Lombardi trophies during Rodgers prime. 

This, x1000. We're just dumbass fans, but we all know enough to say that there's clearly something wrong with this team. Over the past three weeks, the defense has set decades old records, the really bad kinds of records. For the coach to get up and say that nothing is wrong either means that McCarthy is taking his coachspeak to Maximum Belichick, or he really is an imbecile. Presently, I'm still leaning strongly toward the former being the case. He knows that major problems exist, and he just thinks he's being smart by keeping it all under his hat. I don't necessarily like the Belichick approach, but I understand why coaches do it, and I can tolerate it when it bears results. I generally just think there's also a lot to be said for the Parcells approach (publicly berating your team and players in the media). At the very least, it makes the game more engaging.

Don Capers runs a fresh and exciting defense, 15 years ago. The rest of the league knows what he does and he never changes his approach. That's the problem, and I think the discontent we are seeing on the Packers is the result. Caper is becoming a problem for the Packers behind the sense, MM I think is his big supporter. I suspect there is a lot of discontent out side of MM brewing on Green Bay.

I may be wrong but I think I read someplace that this would be Teds Last year, I sure hope it is.

 

Ted's last year? Ted's going nowhere. Assuming healthy he's here at least another 4-5 years.  He's said repeatedly he has no plans of retiring anytime soon.

Really all downhill defensively from the blown coverage on third and sixteen. Final score was really misleading and people shouldn't be fooled by it- team was **** on both sides of the ball.

Grave digger hit the nail on the head a few posts back. Letting go of capers now might only make matters worse. Better to evaluate after the season.

Even in today's offensive minded NFL, defense wins championships.

Of course. Besides if this unlikely event were to occur, we know how Mike tends to roll. If Dom's fired now we'll get to watch current Assistant Head Coach Winston Moss trying to right the sinking ship.