Pick up the drives after GB goes up 7-3, and that's how the 1st qtr ends but CAR is driving

  CAR scores to go up 10-7

  GB goes 3 and out with Lacy getting 1 carry for 1 yard

  CAR then scores again to go up 17-7

  Packers go 3 and out again, Starks 1 carry for -1 yard

  CAR gets a FG, 20-7

  Lacy fumbles...

  D gets CAR to 3 and out and missed FG

  GB with another 3 and out. Starks for no gain and Starks for 2

  CAR scores another TD, 27-7 to end the half

 

So, how does more carries fix this? Either the run scheme sucked, the blocking failed, or the RBs failed... it wasn't about attempts.

 

They were in bad down and distance the whole game because they couldn't get anything going consistently on 1st or 2nd down.

 

 

I've been in favor of moving on from Capers for awhile now - probably since 2012/2013.  It's the same thing every year.  You see incredible performances followed up by "miscommunications" in the secondary, the inability to holding the edge by our DE's and OLB's, and the constant struggle to cover the same basic routes concepts game in, game out.  Good defenses hit ball carriers; this defense drags them down.  Good defenses attack, this team waits and reacts; good defenses have a swagger, this defense always looks nervous.  

 

I don't usually call for a firing but the results are just not there with Capers.  The talent is there, no question because we've all seen it.  But it rarely shows up consistently on game day and in my mind, that's a coaching issue.  He's had 1 above average year since he's been here.  That's not enough to get a lifetime pass.  

Dom is not going anywhere because he is the stepchild of Curly Lambeau.

He also had Brad Jones, Jamari Lattimore.... yep, a cavalcade of suck to work with at the position.

He doesn't draft them.

Exactly illustrates my point.

 

Prior to the 3 and out, which you ignored, Starks ran 3 times for 28 yds. That's over 8 yds per carry, and we score a TD. Next drive, Starks doesn't get a touch, and we go 3 and out. Cam drives for another TD. 17-7.

 

I'm sorry, but this is football. Runs don't always result in yds. But, you have to keep going to the well. Running takes a lot of pressure off of your passing game. This is very simple. Can't run like a pussy, and just give up because you are down a score or two, especially in the first half.

Simply.

 

 

 

Dom be like  

 

 

 

When Dom needs to be like  

       
       
Which to me should be the biggest criticism of Ted Thompson that somehow goes unnoticed by many. Thompson hasn't addressed ILB the way he has every other position on D, and I would argue it's the most critical or at least equal to FS and ROLB. A TRUE ILB would solve a lot of issues...not all, but a lot.

When?

 

The defensive line is Dat One Guy, Mike (Hobbit Cory Williams) Daniels, BJ Once In a While, Wonderjoints-for-everyone Guion and Some Guy Named Mike.

 

At linebacker there's Matthews (when healthy), Peppers (when not at AARP meetings), Neal ( far less durable than Matthews), Perry (Mike Neal's an ironman), and some guys over 220# TT found smoking at Kwik Trip.

 

At D-back there's Shields (Solid and has speed), Heyward (would be solid if he had speed), Hyde (wishes he had Heyward's speed), Burnett (Mike Neal's tub buddy), Clinton-Dix (somebody fetch him a Ritalin), Randall (Rookie, but holds promise), Rollins (See: Randall), Gunter (inactive only big guy), Banjo Kazooie: Special Teamer, and Goodson: Really Special Teamer.

         

Took 3 years to add a starting calibre S. Looks like it will take another 3 to add a starting calibre ILB.

This isn't a sewing circle. It has nothing to do with relating and everything to do with creating the right defense for your talent and teaching that defense. Dom is clueless in that regard.

Starting caliber safety on this defense??? Don't make me LAUGH. 

There were times that we ran the ball when they had 9 guys in, or just outside of the box. There was no way we were gaining yards on those plays & I can not understand why AR did not check out of them. Didn't someone post that we had something like 13 first down plays that either had zero or negative yardage? Hard to sustain drives if you are behind in down & distance every series.

The talent does seem to be there.  You saw it at times last season and in some of the games earlier this season.  

 

This situation reminds me of the Broncos.  Denver has the same talent this year that they had last year.  The difference?  The defensive coordinator.  Jack Del Rio wasn't getting it done.  Wade Phillips is.  

The Donkey's were third in the league in total defense last year:

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statist...on/defense/year/2014

 

But, Wade Phillips is a heckuva a coordinator.

To say that we've never seen flashes of talent from this defense is an extreme response to a poor game.  Guys like CMIII, Peppers and Daniels are obviously studs, but we've seen guys like Haha, Burnett, Perry, Neal, D Jones, Heyward, Hyde, Randall, Shields, etc. have all flash serious talent and not just for a play or two here and there.  We've seen it for stretches.  But then it all falls apart.  Why?  My opinion is because of Dom.  I don't know what he's dong that's the problem, but clearly a problem exists.  

 

I refuse to believe that TT is so bad at drafting defenders that he's 1 for his last 5 drafts on getting impact players (Daniels).  Even if he did suck that bad, at some point he would have gotten lucky if these guys were being developed.  IMO, they're not and that's on Capers.  

Take it from someone living in Denver, they're significantly better this year under Wade Phillips.  Story we hear out of Broncos headquarters is that Wade just simplified things.  He has his best pass rushers rushing (instead of Miller and Ware dropping into coverage to "confuse" offenses); he has his CBs playing aggressive, man coverage and not worrying about crazy zones to again, "confuse" offenses; and they've put they're one dimensional players in a position to succeed instead of asking them to do what they're not good at (for example, TJ Ward playing in the box instead of as a centerfield safety).  

 

 

What impact has this had? 

 

 

 

Not a lot of mensa's in the NFL, unlike x4.

 

I don't think Carolina has ever been accused of having a potent offense. The Green Bay defense sucked. Giving up multiple 50 + yard passes with Cam as the QB. Too many young guys in the secondary. Could have used Shields in there.

 

 

I hate to admit it but the eternal sage "Henry" might just be right with his delayed PTSD line of reasoning.

 

The effects of Seattle are still there, rearing it's ugly head in seeming random displays of "WTF is going on here"? 

 

I'd bet Ha ha's perceived blown coverage on Sunday...ties in with a Peppers PTSD flashback to Seattle that hasn't been discussed or maybe even communicated until yesterday's ridiculous blown coverage maybe brought up a snide comment from Pep that was like putting out a fire with gasoline to Ha ha.

 

I dunno, but we are all just speculating. Teams that lose SuperBowls often have a weird and disappointing next season...I don't see why this particular circumstance would be emotionally much differerent from that. The NFL is a very emotional game...it's hard to stay ' up" if you think the guy next to you cost you a once in a lifetime moment of glory.

 

There are various cracks of disagreement, and harsh feelings about how to play and coach football that trace themselves back to the emotional punch in the gut at Seattle is a valid theory.

 

A team doesn't get that close...and lose it in the way we did... without a lingering effect and bad feelings that later surface.

 

Or...maybe it is Yoko...she aint no Cherry Starr, I can tell you that. 

 

 

 

 

I remember a when the defense was all kinds of 

That Dom simplified the scheme on defense as part of an effort to ramp up the speed everyone played at. 

 

Apparently there are varying forms of simplification. 

 

 

Was wondering the same thing myself, especially after I listened to MM's podcast with McCarren last week. Mike said he's very much into statistical looks to give additional perspective. One would think Eayrs and MM tried to develop a successor but by all accounts he was one of the best in the biz.

I understand (and agree) the position that middle linebacker is lacking, but it is not like they lost a stud to injury and had to scramble to compensate.  Dom has known for years what he has in the kitchen and still failed to make the meal.  There is plenty of talent on this team to field a good defense, they just need to stop underperforming.  

Don't know how much this helps, if at all. But Ryan deserves more snaps.

 

 

Ooof....

@zachkruse2 4h4 hours ago

Packers defense has allowed 19 explosive plays (16 pass, 3 run) over 20 yards over the last three games. Eight over 30, three over 50.

Almost 1,500 yards - 86 points & 30 total explosive plays over 3 games

 

Let's sit back & think about that a minute

Or develop them

"I don't want the Packers to give Mike Daniels a big contract extension. Not when he fails time and time again to deliver. 3 sacks in 8 games? Wow."

 

List of interior DL that have more sacks.  That's where Daniels is rushing the passer from in this D. 

 

Geno Atkins -6

Kawann Short -6

Aaron Donald - 4.5

Gerald McCoy -4.5

 

 

 

Seems odd that a guy would retire four games into a season? Article gives no mention as to why the odd timing.

I'd believe you if the plugs were red.

McGinn did an article which explains it.

Eayrs, 64, worked his last day Sept. 30. He was the team's director of research and development since being hired by Mike Sherman in March 2001.

Coach Mike McCarthy offered Eayrs a contract extension after the 2013 season. In a compromise, he agreed to work through the first month of the 2015 regular season.

"It was time to let some younger guys do this," Eayrs said Friday. "I love football as much as I ever have. But the energy level that's required gets harder and harder as you age."...

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...263z1-331855511.html

 

The official name is Olivia's Munn.

Inside Linebackers Coach: Assistant Head Coach Winston Moss.

 

In his defense, most of the guys he's been given were failed, late-round or UDFA OLBs.

To make it better Ryan Feder, the new guy,  used to be an analyst for Pro Football Focus before the Packers hired him.  I'm not sure if he has the same responsibilities as Mike Eayrs, though. 

 

Lots of fun stuff about Eayrs from around the web

 

This article is a 2004  interview with Mike Eayrs.  Gives an idea of what he did for the Packers even back then. 

 

Another one from before the Superbowl in 2010

 

Interesting that the Seattle guy started out under Eayrs

 

 

This is also interesting (might be some BS meant to make the book seem better though ).  Box Score from the game referenced. 

 

quote from this site  “according to Mike Eayrs, Head of Research and Development for the NFL’s Green Bay Packers, over the last 30+ years in the NFL, the distance of 12 or more yards on runs and 16 or more yards for passes are the minimum distance needed to trigger a dramatic increase in scoring probability. When these distances are achieved on a run or a pass they are labeled Explosive Plays. As you’ll see, most QB decision making structures on pass plays hinder explosive opportunities.

In that same timeframe, the NFL team with a positive turnover ratio and more explosive plays (You get more than you give up) win 91% of the time! Lesson learned: We need more explosive plays in our offense.” 

 

I've heard the explosive play and turnover thing before.  Never knew the exact yardages they looked at.  (not hard to imagine our neurotic QB tracking the explosive plays like a card counter and trying to play catch up if he's behind )   

 

 

Oh good grief! That's only two years older than I am! Am I going to be put on an ice flow too?

For all the coach-speak that happens in PCs, and all the "good" things Dom likes about our defense, I'd love to hear an explanation of how the only game Manning has shown any  sign of life this year was against HIS defense. If he likes our defense, he must love the Colts!

And the Bears defense tonight. How are they able to keep Rivers in check, and produce sacks from a 3 man rush in crunch time? Are they really that much better than we are?

You mean the Chargers minus Keenan Allen going into the game, and then losing Malcom Floyd in the game, and down to an injured Stevie Johnson as their #1 WR?

None of those guys play on the OL.