TBSS

Goodson was surprisingly good as was that young secondary. Sadly, no one else came to play,

Good: AFC loss
Bad: Everything else

I thought special teams played relatively well.

outcoached and outplayed in virtually every aspect of the game. nothing good to take away from this. not even worth analyzing. move on.

There is nothing good.  I have seen every Denver play this yr, they have a good to great D and up until tonite a terrible O.  KC gave them a gift as did Cleveland, Mn played them real tough and were in it at the end. They went thru GB like a hot knife thru butter and choked the O to the point of futility.

 

Back to the drawing board, regroup and hope for the best.

Positives:

Randall.

Goodson
Mathsay 
AFC loss

 

We will get that fixed:

Rodgers never looked worse.
WR can't separate an inch.
Cobb isn't a #1 WR. Great #2.

Adams isn't a savior.

Packers offense incapable of adjusting. 
Joe Whitt starting Heyward outside.
Micah Hyde doesn't deserve the PT he gets.
Injuries to Shields, Clay and Rollins.
Gashed in the run game.

 

The Good

It's an AFC loss.  

 

Before anyone flips out about my comments below - I can 't be more clear.  They will still easily win the North.  They will easily win at least 11 and maybe 13 regular season games.  I'm not "jumping off a cliff"

 

Special teams has played well all year.  Ron Zook is far and away the best coordinator on the staff right now.

 

The Bad

I got nuthin

 

The Ugly

Two weeks to prepare for this defense and this was our gameplan?  I don't understand it.  We simply refuse to run any plays to try and slow the pass rush of the opponent.  No screens, no draws, nothing.   Clements is beyond disappointing at this point.  The offense has looked off for weeks and nothing changed over the bye week.  

 

Our WRs cannot get open.  At all.  Every pass that's completed is contested and has to be threaded like a needle.  Is that our WRs?  Is it the scheme?  

 

Our defense continues to suck big floppy donkey dick against a competent NFL QB.  500 yards allowed again.  Dom Capers should have been replaced the morning after the SF playoff loss in 2012.  MM continuing to tie his career to him is beyond baffling to me. 

 

The reality

Again, we'll comfortably win the North.  May even get first round bye.  But I cannot envision this defense being enough to get past any team with a competent QB come the playoffs.  

Mike McCarthy: I haven't had my ass kicked like that in a long time

By Lori Nickel of the Journal Sentinel

Nov. 1, 2015 10:57 p.m

Mike McCarthy said it was a humbling loss in a 3 minute post-game press conference. 

Here are highlights from what McCarthy said after Denver beat the Packers Sunday night.

(opening statement). Congrats to Denver. “Clearly the better team this evening. For us, a very humbling loss. Frankly, Gary Kubiak had his team playing a lot faster than I had my team tonight. I thought that was evident early and often. I don’t feel good about the way we performed. … Very humbling loss.”

(On rhythm) “You saw opposites. We didn’t break their rhythm on offense. They ran it well. The explosive gains was clearly lopsided in Denver’s favor. I think it was 9-2 at halftime, I don’t know what it ended up at; it was probably lopsided again in the second half. I thought that was a big factor in yardage production and obviously point production. You want to be able to get in to a run-pass rhythm. Especially against an excellent defense like Denver and we couldn’t really sustain that..”

McCarthy said both teams came off the bye week; both team felt healthy. “Both teams felt good; were healthy. … As far as the gun, the pistol, I thought they ran their offense and ran it effectively. It starts with the run, and that was my number one coaching point for the defense. We needed to stop the run and get after their pass protection and make sure we get Peyton Manning off the spot. We didn’t accomplish that at all.”

(needed the run yes) “You have to run the ball; you have to run against an excellent pass rush as Denver has. We got some things going on offense; we really just couldn’t sustain it.”

(McCarthy said praise had to go to Denver.) “You’ve got to compliment Denver. That’s a humbling loss. I haven’t had my ass kicked like that in a long time. They covered us very well. I thought we pass protected particularly well in the first half and there was a lot of green grass out there. So they did a heck of a job covering us.”

+

That INT was nice

Masthay punted well

 

-

Everything else was bad. Literally everything.

Agreed.. New year, same issue.  Why MM stays with coordinators so long is baffling.  Slocum was here way to long and it cost us a SB trip.  I'm convinced Dom has cost at least another.   Now throw in a stuttering offense minus Jordy Nelson and we have less of a chance to win a shoot out.  

 

Luckily the best QB we might face in the NFC is either Manning or Palmer.   

Cam Newton / Russell Wilson

The only good was the Randall INT, Crosby FG, and the fact that Matthews isn't hurt badly.  Otherwise, just an awful day for basically everyone.  Aaron Rodgers looked unprepared and confused by the Broncos scheme, that was the biggest disappointment out of numerous disappointments. 

The result tonight should hardly be surprising with what we've seen. An inability to sustain drives coupled with an inability to get off the field on 3rd down? Can't seem to run the ball effectively to get the pressure off Rodgers? WRs unable to get open even while Rodgers buys ridiculous amounts of time?

E've been watching this movie the last few weeks- Denver's just the first team able to truly capitalize on it. Better get right quick... the Vikings are proving a potentially worthy adversary...

MM3

 

I thought that was evident early and often

 

 

Yup.  Fix your O that should have no reason to need to be fixed.

 

Fix your D too. 

 

It's shredded by injuries.  At least the D has an excuse.

 

 

Good = 6-1 with the chance to have the best record in the NFC next week at this time.

 

Bad = No big plays on offense anymore. No easy completions or open running lanes. Everything is a struggle all of the sudden.

 

Ugly = 500 yards to a team that can't run and has a statue throwing wobbly punts up for grabs behind a makeshift Offensive line? The Packers have not won a game on the road against a good team since I can't remember when. Dom's soft D does not work on the road, it just doesn't. 

I am frustrated by Rodgers, he will not pass to guys he does not like. He hold the ball trying to find a guy he trust.

Frankly, I don't know how good I feel about them easily winning the North. Minnesota is only a game behind them!

 

The word that came to mind watching that game tonight is "stale". The entire offensive and defensive scheme just look stale…just a repeat of everything we've seen pop up over the years happening in one game: WRs can't get open, defenders knowing what we'll run, no pressure on opposing QB, middle of field wide open, etc. etc.

 

The safety epitomized the predictability of this team. Same formation we've seen countless times, same play action roll-out. Only this time the DE stays home b/c he's seen it on tape, Rodgers can't get away…and even if he does get away, no one will be open.

 

They aren't going to change anything, and that's probably the wisest course of action overall. But man, you watch a game like that and you just want to have an offensive coordinator who uses the creative formations you see all over the league to scheme guys open. Or a defensive coordinator who isn't past his prime and everyone knows what to expect. Or, and I know it's heresy, a GM who would consider trading a future draft pick to acquire a player who can inject some life in this team.

 

Who would have thought that at this point in the season we'd be 6-1 but the strongest part of the team is Special Teams.

Jordy Nelson gone.  Adams with that high ankle sprain.  Ty Montgomery out. 

 

Things get bad when your WR level of play is - well - just not very good.

Very ugly loss - no question about it.  The most disappointing aspect of the game was Denver just looked so much more inspired and prepared and that's surprising given the fact GB had two weeks to get ready.

This team has not been very good on the road lately, and their D has not proven to be good enough consistently against good QBs.  That's fine in the regular season but sooner or later they will see one of those teams in the playoffs.

Need to regroup and get focused quickly.  Beat Carolina and it takes the sting out of this loss.

The good:
I turned off the TV and went to bed in the 3rd Quarter of a Packers game. Unheard of.

The bad:
I turned off the TV and went to bed in the 3rd Quarter of a Packers game. Unheard of.

Denver is in fact a well schemed, disciplined, and assignment sure defense.  

 

 

About the only positive was our Special Teams play.

Positive and Negative: They made it clear from the get-go they weren't going to compete. Which allowed sports fans to watch a great World Series game.

TE really needs to be upgraded as well. You invest a third rounder in the position and you need to do better than Richard Rodgers.

R E L A X 

This. Did you see Adams running free over the middle? They mentioned it, happened in the first half, Rodgers didn't let it fly, scrambled to his right instead. What the hell, I know he dropped one earlier, but he was as open in the middle as the Bronco receivers were all night.

 

Rodgers needs to look in the mirror. He's not making the right decisions.

 

@AdamSchefter: Broncos' D pressured Aaron Rodgers on 63 percent of his dropbacks, the highest rate he has been pressured in a game in past seven seasons.

I'm inclined to believe that AR simply didn't see him and it's no more complicated than that.

A nuts and bolts take on the offense's problems by Andy Benoit at the MMQB. He diagnoses the issues well. In the remainder of the article he makes suggestions, using what the Patriots have been doing as one option.

... As NBC’s Cris Collinsworth shrewdly pointed out late in the game, Aaron Rodgers did not throw once to the primary read in his progression. His second and third reads were often covered, as well. As the game unfolded, the Broncos’ noisy pass rush started getting home, turning the hits it’d been laying on Rodgers into sacks. If not for a handful of Broncos penalties, this would have been a drubbing. It probably was anyways; Green Bay’s passing game netted only 50 yards. And it didn’t even look that efficient.

The reflexive reaction is: Hey, the Packers’ offense wasn’t itself Sunday night. The problem: Yes, it was. The Packers’ passing attack has been incongruous throughout this season. That’s why I hoped to talk to the receivers a few weeks ago. Since then, the offense has only been wobblier, culminating in Sunday night’s face-plant.

In Weeks 1-6, Green Bay’s struggles were obfuscated by Rodgers’ remarkable playmaking prowess. He extends plays better than anyone. But plays get extended only when they don’t work in the first place. And as we were reminded Sunday, raw quarterback playmaking can’t be enough against a top-shelf defense. Even before the loss, McCarthy probably would have privately admitted that he and his staff were not comfortable with how its offense has been performing.

So what, exactly, is the issue? And more importantly, how can it be fixed?

 

The Packers’ offense is spread-based and full of isolation routes. You’ll notice that in most of its formations, the outside receivers are lined up in what’s called a “plus split,” meaning outside the field numbers. The slot receiver (usually Randall Cobb) is almost always several yards detached from the end of the offensive line. Clearly, Rodgers prefers to have his targets spaced out so that he can progression-read across the field.

Thus, Receiver A runs his route, Receiver B runs his route, Receiver C runs his, etc. Little to nothing about the routes overlap or intersect. They’re all independent of one another. It’s up to Rodgers to drop-back, identify the defense, analyze the action and decipher which of these individual routes is best to target. This approach is fine… as long as your receivers win one-on-one.

This year, Green Bay’s receivers have not won. It’s a weaker group. Jordy Nelson tore his ACL in the preseason. Davante Adams returned to action Sunday night after missing the previous three games with a sprained ankle. Third-round rookie Ty Montgomery did not initially earn his coaches’ trust, which is why in early September James Jones was brought in off the street and immediately inserted into the starting lineup. And Rodgers, for all his greatness, has a tendency to leave some throws on the field, leaving guys open within the timing of the design in order to extend the play in hopes of a bigger payoff later in the down. Typically, this has more pluses than minuses. But that can’t be the case when his pass protection doesn’t hold up, which was the issue Sunday night. And, given the limitations of Green Bay’s offensive tackles (David Bakhtiari struggles against bull rushers, Bryan Bulaga has very little twitch), could be an issue against other viable pass rushes moving forward.

So Green Bay’s problem is defeating man coverage. The answer for how to fix this is the same as for all the other teams enduring poor receiver play: more “man-beater” play designs. If guys aren’t getting open physically, help them get open tactically ....

 http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/1...ncos-loss-nfl-week-8

I am hoping to chalk this up to just a bad game.

 

I am hoping that Adams just needs some game time to get back up to speed and on the same page as AR. At least he did not seem to re-aggravate the ankle.

 

I am hoping that Burnett also needs some game time to get back up to speed. He did have a couple of really nice hits.

 

Hayward did not seem to be able to cover anyone.

Rodgers has looked pretty ordinary but let's be honest - it's not like the WRs are setting the world on fire either

I keep hearing how talented Adams is but damn he needs to start stepping up.  He's been dinged up but this season he's been a non factor.

Jones is coming back to reality and Cobb is in the backfield?  Why?

Jordy Nelson isn't going to walk through the front door anytime soon so they had better figure things out quick.  They can win with these WRs but they need to answer the bell.

you two are twins

+This is the best team left on their schedule. Carolina will be a tough road game, but they aren't as good as Denver. Beyond that I don't think there were many positives. The punting was good I thought. Masthay appears to be out of his funk. Crosby nailed a 56 yarder, that's pretty sweet.

-Too many negatives. I thought the D had some really positive moments, they were over aggressive too often and left holes open in the run game. Palmer had a Brad Jones reminiscent performance and while Clay had possibly the best performance of anyone, even he overran plays and wasn't assignment sure. They capitalized on how aggressively he attacks from the backside and it led to some big runs. ILBs have to be smart. As much as he has improved the D, he's just not an ILB...it's not his game. We need an actual ILB, preferably two.

In the end I think Denver won by controlling both lines of scrimmage. Their DL gave no running lanes and pressured Rodgers. Our DL left gaping holes and gave Manning plenty of time. I don't think this is a sign of thing to come, I think it's an off night like we saw in New Orleans last year. We will bounce back and finish strong, this is one loss...there's a reason there have only four  undefeated teams since 1930.

So you  are saying the Pack can beat bad teams?

Great article above. I hope that MM adjusts the passing attack like he did with the running game last year (adding some traps, pulls to the zone blocking scheme). Even with Jordy, has the emphasis on stockpiling "cover corners" in the pass-happy NFL, making our scheme more difficult to successfully implement?

Positives:

This is an AFC loss and as a previous poster said they are very much alive to have the best record in the NFC, homefield, and most importantly win the division

Thankfully we don't have to go back to Denver for awhile

 

Negatives:

I won't dwell on it too much but doesn't it seem like this time once a year lays a huge egg on a big stage especially in prime time?  I

The defense looked like they were running in cement, very poorly prepared, very reactionary and not taking the game to a Broncos offense that has been struggling

 

One question I have had for a few years now is when you have a team that is rushing you hard why don't they call screen plays more?

Before last night, this defense had surrendered the fewest points in the league.

 

Chill.

 

P.S. Mike Zimmer is a blowhard and the Queens are frauds.