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I wonder if this means anything for AJ Hawk's future. Hawk has played pretty well of late, but earlier in the year Chillar was the preferred player by the coaching staff. It seems odd they would pay three middle linebackers fairly big money, but perhaps they plan on playng a lot of Okie, or Big Nickel or whatever.
The size of this contract makes you wonder if Hawk is in for a pay cut. Still, the Packers have the money and cap room, so you may as well use it.

Off the top of my head, Chillar is the only player slated to be an unrestricted free agent if the CBA is not redone, right? I think Clifton is too, but I'm not too worried about him leaving.

EDIT: Just remembered Kampman is too. But i don't think the packers will bring him back.
I think Kampman is gone for sure and who knows about Clifton and Tauscher. At this point I think both guys would come back as a safety blanket while their replacements are put into place.

As far as Chillar, I just don't see this as that big of a contract. He's a regular contributor on the field and a great fit in Dom's coverage schemes.
I'll wait to see the breakdown of the contract numbers, but it only has 7 million guaranteed. It wouldn't be all that surprising given their cap room that if the Packers are paying him a 2 or 3 million dollar roster bonus right now, which means they would only be on the hook for 4 to 5 million dollars after this season. Even without a cap the Packers are likely to run a payroll of 100+ million dollars...Chillar would be unlikely to cost the team more than 2% of that in any year if the Packers decide to cut him.
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Originally posted by CUPackFan:
The size of this contract makes you wonder if Hawk is in for a pay cut. Still, the Packers have the money and cap room, so you may as well use it.

Off the top of my head, Chillar is the only player slated to be an unrestricted free agent if the CBA is not redone, right? I think Clifton is too, but I'm not too worried about him leaving.

EDIT: Just remembered Kampman is too. But i don't think the packers will bring him back.

Pickett! I bet TT is working on him. Collins has to wait another year.
as PJ mentioned that really is not a huge amount of guranteed cash.

Good to be well stocked at a position other then Fullback and Brenoland.

Hawk has really been coming on. Barnett has been playing lights out. CM is ROY material. And Bishop, Jones and Poppinga are all in the mix and contributing. Not a bad group of LB's at all.

Chillar is still young and can fit in any position in the rotation
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Originally posted by Goalline:
There will definitely be an uncapped year in 2010. Don't get impatient.


The uncapped year isn't what I'm concerned about. It's keeping a great player happy. Collins did want a bump last year but came into camp and has played great. He's young and will be a fixture at safety. Pay the man.
I think they need to reward Collins pretty soon ... he's taken his game to new heights the past two years. Going into this year there was the unknown about how he'd work out in the 3-4 .. well he's answered that with another good year.
Collins has done very well.....and to be honest the whole defense has performed way beyond my expectations. And to think this is their first year in the system.


Not one of our guys had experience in the 3-4 or worked for Dom previously...that is incredible how well they have picked things up.
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Originally posted by FANtastic:
He's valuable on special teams and for depth, but this strikes me as a tad steep for a guy who is not a regular starter.


He's not been a regular starter because he broke his hand. As his cast has gotten smaller, his playing time has increased. When that hand is completely healed, I suspect he'll see quite a lot of playing time.
According to PU Packers would really benefit from no CBA next season. From that piece:

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With or without a new CBA, running back Ahman Green, offensive tackles Chad Clifton and Mark Tauscher, nose tackle Ryan Pickett and linebackers Aaron Kampman and Brandon Chillar will be unrestricted free agents in the offseason. Other than Pickett, there’s not another must-sign player among that group. And one can even argue if Pickett is truly a must-sign. “I’m sure the Packers would prefer to keep him, but remember, B.J. Raji was picked ninth overall in April’s draft for a reason,” said the source. “He has the potential to be a dominant nose tackle.”


Now with Chillar taken care of, main focus should be Pickett. Collins deserves to get PAID but on the other hand, he doesn't hold all the cards like he would as a UFA.
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Originally posted by Iowacheese:
Collins has done very well.....and to be honest the whole defense has performed way beyond my expectations. And to think this is their first year in the system.


Not one of our guys had experience in the 3-4 or worked for Dom previously...that is incredible how well they have picked things up.


Agree on Collins. As for the D, they've steadily gotten better which is really what matters. Guys complained a little bit early on but I think Capers has them sold, and it's showing.
I wonder what this means for Poppinga, haven't seen much of him this season at all. Not sure if that's just because he's playing within the system or he's playing badly (haven't seen him get burnt either).

He seems to be making a lot of coin for a seemingly marginal player...
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Originally posted by tbor:
I wonder what this means for Poppinga, haven't seen much of him this season at all. Not sure if that's just because he's playing within the system or he's playing badly (haven't seen him get burnt either).

He seems to be making a lot of coin for a seemingly marginal player...


He'll have to take a pay cut.
Agreed with all statements here ...

My guess is TT looks as a whole at the front 7 including depth when looking at salaries paid. IMO, eventually Hawk will take a cut or walk, Barnett will take a cut or walk, Poppinga will take a cut or walk, Kampman will be gone and TT will build from there.

BTW, this Capers-type of defense is the only type of defense the Packers should even consider for the forseeable future ... Capers or no Capers. If I remember right, TT played the 3-4 himself so me thinks he understands what is going on, on that side of the ball.
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Poppinga is a good pass rusher but he isn't great in coverage. The guy was a DE in college and if anything he's kind of a poor man's Kampman. He's not horrible but he doesn't fit very well. Some people may laugh but I think he has some trade value for a 4-3 team. His money is definitely a issue though.
Barnett signed an extension and is locked in for a while, so I dont think he'll walk any time soon (at least another two year). Hawk might walk, but it seems like he is playing better, and I could see him staying with a cut, but fair salary.

The rest of the LB's are either around for another year or two, or gone, Bishop probably walk, Jones might need to be restructured if he continues to play well, but I hope we can keep CMIII, Jones, Barnett, Hawk for the next couple of years.
Hold the fort on the Chillar extenstion....

Greg Bedard from his post- game chat last night:
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" Chillar won't sign, will look to start someplace else."
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Thanks for the insight
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Originally posted by Henry:
Poppinga is a good pass rusher but he isn't great in coverage. The guy was a DE in college and if anything he's kind of a poor man's Kampman. He's not horrible but he doesn't fit very well. Some people may laugh but I think he has some trade value for a 4-3 team. His money is definitely a issue though.


Good post Henry. I think you can get a 5th for Poppinga.
I don't see Barnett going anywhere but Hawk's base goes up to something like $10 mil in 2011. Hawk will either get cut or take a cut at some point if he wants to be part of the future in GB. Chillar looks better in the 3-4 and getting the 4 year extension definitely says he's part of the future.
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Originally posted by Rags:
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Originally posted by Henry:
Poppinga is a good pass rusher but he isn't great in coverage. The guy was a DE in college and if anything he's kind of a poor man's Kampman. He's not horrible but he doesn't fit very well. Some people may laugh but I think he has some trade value for a 4-3 team. His money is definitely a issue though.


Good post Henry. I think you can get a 5th for Poppinga.


Hell, if TT could get a 5th rounder for Moll, I'd be ecstatic if he picked up a fifth for Poppy. The other consideration I forgot about Poppinga, his age. He doesn't have a ton of mileage but he got into the game late.
Surprised no discussion here about Chillar as a potential starter at LOLB in 2010, effectively replacing Kampman. The guy seems to me to not only be good in coverage and effective against the run, but an excellent blitzer. Maybe Ted Thompson sees him the same way, justifying the starter-type money. I see our four best LB's as Matthews, Hawk, Barnett and Chillar. Brad Jones may come on on the outside, J. Thompson a question mark, and Poppinga serviceable. Bishop provides excellent ILB depth. Kampman in limbo. Bottom line, do you see Chillar as a good fit at LOLB, and if not, why not?
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Originally posted by PackerRick:
I don't see Barnett going anywhere but Hawk's base goes up to something like $10 mil in 2011. Hawk will either get cut or take a cut at some point if he wants to be part of the future in GB. Chillar looks better in the 3-4 and getting the 4 year extension definitely says he's part of the future.


Good point. Something will have to be done with Hawk after next season. Re-signing Chillar gives the Packers somebody to step right in if need be. I'm a little surprised by the amount of money. I wonder if a guy like Jenkins will be pissed off.

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