Crush the Dodgers Thread

Just like the Brewers controlled De La Cruz they need to do the same with Ohtani.  And I got to admit I dislike Dave Roberts more than any other manager in MLB.  Not sure why, I just do.  KICK their asses BREWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We do owe them some payback as the Dodgers won the 3 game series in LA 2-1 back in early July.

Good news so far. Guardians beating Cubs 4 - 3 bottom 5th.  Better news yet Reds beating Cards 6 - 1 end of 5th.

Guardians now up over scrubs 7-3 after 5, Reds still beating Cards 6-1 after 6.

Crew 0-0 after 1

Still 0-0 after 2. Crew blows a chance with 2 on 1 out, but can't score.

Freddie better start throwing more strikes before this goes south.

Codgers 2 run HR makes it 2-0 Codgers in the 3rd

And there it s 2 run homer by Betts on a 2 - 1 count.

Hitters not exactly making Kershaw work.  Only 46 pitches through 4 innings.

Bad Freddy again.  That’s becoming the norm unfortunately.  I would have him as the #3 starter in any playoff rotation.

Ohtani hits a 2 run HR after Betts hits a 2 run HR in an earlier inning. Kershaw dominating.

All 3 are first ballot Hall of Famers. Those are the types of players that get you deep into the playoffs.

Garrett Mitchell catches a ball above the wall to save another HR and keep it 4-0.

The Brewers finally chase Kershaw and Contreras greets the relief pitcher with a 2 run home run to make it 4-2.

Kershaw had thrown 83 pitches and had struck out Mitchell on this series of pitches with two outs in the 6th after Chourio singled. Why would you take a guy out after he threw with this type of precise location? This was right before Contreras homered.

As a Brewers fan, I'm glad Dave Roberts is sometimes an idiot.

Kershaw pulled after 83 pitches.  I forgot he’s only a few games back from the IL.  Glad he’s out!

Brewers put 2 guys on with 2 out and then Hoskins strikes out on a ball about 8 inches off the plate and in the dirt.

At the game, a terrible non call by 1st base umpire on strike 3 to Betts, then get RBI single next pitch

Why do we continue to bat Turang lead off? He’s been hot garbage the last 28 games, hitting .144 with a sub .400 OPS.

@lambeausouth posted:

Why do we continue to bat Turang lead off? He’s been hot garbage the last 28 games, hitting .144 with a sub .400 OPS.

None of their other options are that much better and he does tend to work deep into counts.

@Slobknocker posted:

At the game, a terrible non call by 1st base umpire on strike 3 to Betts, then get RBI single next pitch

ESPN Gamecast has it as a good call.

Cubs and Cards both lost so nothing lost in the standings anyway.

@MichiganPacker2 posted:

ESPN Gamecast has it as a good call. O

Don't see pich 7,  Betts offered. We were sitting 1st base side, home plate ump checked with 1st base umpire he said no swing

Kershaw is now 39 strikeouts away from 3,000. After him, it may be a long time before we see 3,000 again. Gerrit Cole is 796 away. His health will bear watching. Chris Sale is 646 away at age 35.

After them, there’s nobody under the age of 37 with even 1,800.

@Slobknocker posted:

Don't see pich 7,  Betts offered. We were sitting 1st base side, home plate ump checked with 1st base umpire he said no swing

OK. Now I see what you are saying. Pitch 7 is in the graphic showing home plate, but not the itemized list.

@lambeausouth posted:

Kershaw is now 39 strikeouts away from 3,000. After him, it may be a long time before we see 3,000 again. Gerrit Cole is 796 away. His health will bear watching. Chris Sale is 646 away at age 35.

After them, there’s nobody under the age of 37 with even 1,800.

And Kershaw is still almost 2,800 strikeouts behind Nolan Ryan.

I would guess of all the all-time records out there, Ryan's 5,714 strikeouts might be the most unreachable. Rose's 4,256 hits are probably also unreachable.

Another 7:10 CT start for Tuesday's game. It should be on TBS.

Colin Rea starts for the Crew. Here's the pitching comparison:

Tonight's line up, Tyler Black is the DH:

Brewers down 2-0 early. Ohtani hits another HR. You are asking for trouble if you throw pitchers like this to Ohtani.

Now 4-1 after the the Dodgers hit another HR.

This pitch wasn't to Ohtani but if you throw pitches at this speed to major league hitters in the middle of the plate they are going to crush them. Brewers down 4-1.

oof 7-1

I think this is a reflection of what a playoff series with the Dodgers would look like.

Well just like yesterday the Cubs and Cards both lose so the division lead will stay the same.

@Cheezers posted:

Well just like yesterday the Cubs and Cards both lose so the division lead will stay the same.

It would be an upset for any team in the NL Central to advance beyond the first series of a playoff.

The Brewers offense is hibernating once again.

Since the first 3 innings of the first Reds game, the Brewers have scored 7 runs on 16 hits….across 39 innings.

@lambeausouth posted:

The Brewers offense is hibernating once again.

Since the first 3 innings of the first Reds game, the Brewers have scored 7 runs on 16 hits….across 39 innings.

The Brewers have played the Braves well this year going 4-2 and the Braves currently have the final seed for the NL playoffs.

Against the other 4 NL teams currently in the playoffs (Dodgers, Phillies, Padres, and Diamondbacks), the Brewers are 3-12. They deserve a lot of credit for beating the average and poor teams, but they are outmatched against the elite teams.

It makes sense given the economic differences in baseball. With Yelich out (along with Miley) the current payroll of the active roster is 67 million total. While much of Ohtani's money is deferred, he is still eventually going to make 70 million for playing baseball this year.

The pitching staff is at roughly 43 million (Devin Williams gets 7 million and Montas is at 14 million).  The other 12 guys combine for 22 million.

What might have made a difference? - maybe having a guy like Corbin Burnes. He's a guy that other teams fear facing 2-3 times in a 7 game playoff series. I don't think any of the good teams are very scared of having to face Colin Rea, Peralta, or Myers no matter how good they've been at times this year.

They traded Burnes to save money and to get a couple of guys that could contribute at a moderate level this year and, more importantly down the road instead of losing Burnes for nothing. Ortiz is already a good player and he might be very good, but the reason they got him is mainly because they are likely to lose one of their best 5 players after this season because they can't afford Adames and they'll need another SS.

Give Attanasio credit for giving big dollars to Chourio that he didn't have to in order to buy a few extra years of a potential superstar at a bargain price. Chourio looks like a perennial future all-star. Contreras is an all-star and Hoskins is a very good one-year rental and Adames is playing his last 50 games as a Brewer.  But other than that, the lineup is composed of a bunch of Charlie Moore/Jim Gartner types. They are decent players, try hard, scrap, are easy to root for, and play great defense, but they aren't difference makers - Turang, Mitchell, Monasterio, Ortiz (so far), Frelick.

I know I'm preaching to the choir of small market baseball Brewers fans here, but the nibbles at the apple are going to be what happens over and over. They just don't have the elite talent to compete with the true World Series contenders. The only way that happens is if someone like Peralta or Montas gets hot and can dominate playoff games (not impossible but unlikely)

Adames is gone after this year and Ortiz will probably play well enough after another 2-3 years to leave when he finally hits his potential. They will non-tender Montas next year as well. Williams has one more year until free agency.

Well the Dodgers have had their way with the Crew so far this series. They do have a lot of good bats. Can the Brewers salvage something from this series when play resumes at 7:10 CT? Looks like it's on MLBN.

For whatever reason I like this pitching match up tonight. Hoping for a win.

@DurangoDoug posted:

Well the Dodgers have had their way with the Crew so far this series. They do have a lot of good bats. Can the Brewers salvage something from this series when play resumes at 7:10 CT? Looks like it's on MLBN.

For whatever reason I like this pitching match up tonight. Hoping for a win.

Player	W-L	ERA	WHIP	IP	H	K	BB	HR
W. Buehler	1-4	5.84	1.51	37.0	46	31	10	10
F. Montas	5-8	5.10	1.46	102.1	104	90	45	16

Two similar pitchers in they both have had the pitch repertoire and talent to be top-of-the line starters but have had their careers derailed by injuries. Montas was 6th in Cy Young voting in 2021. His shoulder injuries led to his regression, .Buehler looked to be on track to be a perennial Cy Young candidate in 2022 after starting his career by going 40-13 with a WHIP under 1. Then he had his second Tommy John surgery.