The first 1st round pick to sign is Dez Bryant.
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Where was he drafted? How does this translate to tackles from Iowa??
Uh oh, Dez is starting to make some waves..........
Bryant says no to tradition, refuses to carry Williams' pads
Dez probably figures, "Why bother? I'll be taking his job, anyway."
Bryant says no to tradition, refuses to carry Williams' pads
Dez probably figures, "Why bother? I'll be taking his job, anyway."
It's that fine pimp/crack whore upbringing rising to the top.
Maybe if Mile Austin would have asked him and not a chronic underachiever like Williams he may have said "alright dog, hand me the gear..."
just typed this to a friend this morning in reference to Dez's refusal to carry Roy William's pads after practice, a small rookie hazing tradition I guess:
Dez may end up being a fine NFL WR but he ain’t played one game let alone 16. I’m glad the sallad sowboys and the sportswriter pundits are going all TMZ celebrity crazy on him – them magnifying glasses can also burn ya.
Dez may end up being a fine NFL WR but he ain’t played one game let alone 16. I’m glad the sallad sowboys and the sportswriter pundits are going all TMZ celebrity crazy on him – them magnifying glasses can also burn ya.
funny
step two is Michael Irvin doing coke off your ass, Dez is just trying to expedite things
step two is Michael Irvin doing coke off your ass, Dez is just trying to expedite things
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Aaron Rodgers to Dez Bryant: 'Fall in line'
By Kevin Seifert
Over on our fast-paced Twitter feed, we've had a nice little back-and-forth on the refusal of Dallas Cowboys rookie Dez Bryant to carry the helmet of veteran receiver (and former Detroit Lion) Roy Williams in training camp.
My own feeling is that Bryant needs to lighten up and understand that carrying a helmet is less about hazing and more about showing respect for established teammates who are welcoming you to their circle. Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12), responding to a follower's question about Bryant, was more blunt: "I'd tell him he needs to pay his dues n fall in line."
Rodgers also tweeted: "Every rookie gets hazed. There should be a rite of passage" and added:
Picking up some dinner bills, having a few pranks pulled on u n, doing some odd jobs for the vets is a small price to pay to gain respect
No ones gonna get taped to a goalpost in gb or beat up but young guys should show some respect to the older guys and being a good rookie...
Means keeping quiet n being in the right place at the right time n showing respect to the vets as long as it's appropriate
And in case you're wondering, at least two Packers rookies were listening. Here's what defensive lineman Micheal Neal (@mneal96), Green Bay's No. 2 draft choice, tweeted: "yes sir!"
Offensive lineman Bryan Bulaga (@Bbulaga), the Packers' first-round pick, added: "agreed... words of wisdom right there."
I'm really starting to like this kid.
I kinda wish Rodgers would lay low a little more. He's quick to voice his opinion in public and while it's great for entertainment value, I'd rather he keep a low profile and stick to the business at hand. Amongst the locker room say whatever you want about another team's players but in public statements just say that's their team and their business. He doesn't need to run around telling players on other teams how to handle their business.
As right as Rodgers is I have to agree with titmfatied.
Welcome to Twitter. Where you can say stuff without thinking first and get your thoughts out to the world in a hurry.
It doesn't bother me that Rodgers said what everyone else is thinking about Bryant, but he probably shouldn't have said (typed) it.
It doesn't bother me that Rodgers said what everyone else is thinking about Bryant, but he probably shouldn't have said (typed) it.
Could be worse, he could have been Merriman who tweeted that the Cowboys should dump his ass in the cold tub
quote:Originally posted by Boris:
Welcome to Twitter. Where you can say stuff without thinking first and get your thoughts out to the world in a hurry.
It doesn't bother me that Rodgers said what everyone else is thinking about Bryant.....
It doesn't bother me and correct, he's saying what most players would be saying except thanks to Twitter/Facebook/Skyping etc etc it's there for the world to read/see.
Just 5 years ago, we would have never known this was said. But as it is with the 20 somethings and younger, their lives being transparent is seemingly not an issue. This generation has little issues with people---many who they will never meet in their life--knowing exactly what their doing 24 hours a day.
Rodgers did the ultimate job in shutting his mouth in 2007. That alone allows me to give him the benefit of a few 100 doubts.
I don't mind Rodgers chiming in. This isn't a team matter that needs to stay within the Cowboys (like Rodgers commenting on the status of a holdout). I'm sure the Cowboys veterans appreciate the support from other teams.
Besides, if this is going to occur anywhere, it may as well be Twitter. That's as low on the media totem as you get.
Besides, if this is going to occur anywhere, it may as well be Twitter. That's as low on the media totem as you get.
quote:Originally posted by Tdog:
a small rookie hazing tradition I guess:
I like his stance. Has he proved a thing? not on the field, but I like this because we get irritated when they act like frat boys on the field and in their off time... I had no idea this kind of crap was such a long honored tradition with the Dallas Cowboys.
Please please tell me this isn't the case with the Packers? Maybe only insiders really know, there were stories of Favre putting ben-gay in jocks & what not, which I think was pretty amusing locker room stuff, ritual hazing on the other hand is just loving retarded in an NFL org.
Stick with riding kids bikes in training camp, that's awesome. Which reminds me, I said to anyone who cared to listen during the 96 season...know what I like about this team? The closest thing we have to a jack-ass is Antonio Freman...and he isn't that good at it.
I am not an insider, but it is going on
Weird how Bryant refers to carrying veterans pads as "hazing". To me, "hazing" is the bad stuff. Little traditions like carrying veterans pads, bringing coaches/veterans water and paying for lunches don't bother me at all. I don't see why Bryant has made such a big deal out of this. Oh well, it just makes him more of an outsider on his team, which can't be good.
Thank god we didn't draft this punk. Imagine him telling Donald Driver no way.
quote:Originally posted by packerboi:
This generation has little issues with people---many who they will never meet in their life--knowing exactly what their doing 24 hours a day.
Especially Martellus Bennet
quote:Originally posted by Snorton:quote:Originally posted by Tdog:
a small rookie hazing tradition I guess:
I like his stance. Has he proved a thing? not on the field, but I like this because we get irritated when they act like frat boys on the field and in their off time... I had no idea this kind of crap was such a long honored tradition with the Dallas Cowboys.
Please please tell me this isn't the case with the Packers? Maybe only insiders really know, there were stories of Favre putting ben-gay in jocks & what not, which I think was pretty amusing locker room stuff, ritual hazing on the other hand is just loving retarded in an NFL org.
Stick with riding kids bikes in training camp, that's awesome. Which reminds me, I said to anyone who cared to listen during the 96 season...know what I like about this team? The closest thing we have to a jack-ass is Antonio Freman...and he isn't that good at it.
Moopy business a tad slow? It happens on every team and carrying a guy's pads isn't exactly swirlies in the locker room. Lighten the **** up pusscake.
quote:Originally posted by Snorton:
I like his stance.
I do too. This story is a non-issue. I'm sick of it.
What teams do to indoctrinate guys may be silly but it's part of team building, a very basic component of success. It's being able to check your ego at the door for the sake of team.
It does make a difference and it does speak volumes about this clown.
It does make a difference and it does speak volumes about this clown.
There is a reason Holmgren so disliked hazing that he banned it from his camps. You are asking these guys to come and help the team by knocking down their confidence and making them seem like second class members of the team? Great! Try that at your job someday and see how far you get with it. These guys are adults and they are supposed to be professionals. Act like it.
Roy Williams has everything to gain by putting down dez bryant. Good for the rookie for refusing to bend to his weak attempts.
Roy Williams has everything to gain by putting down dez bryant. Good for the rookie for refusing to bend to his weak attempts.
"Hi, I'm the new guy in the office.
I won't be doing things your way and you will all learn from me.
Let's have a great day now."
Yeah, that would go over just super. Put me in Henry's camp. And it's not like we're talking about duct taping to the field goal post here. A simple act of becoming a part of the group.
Treat them like professionals? When they merit that treatment, sure.
I won't be doing things your way and you will all learn from me.
Let's have a great day now."
Yeah, that would go over just super. Put me in Henry's camp. And it's not like we're talking about duct taping to the field goal post here. A simple act of becoming a part of the group.
Treat them like professionals? When they merit that treatment, sure.
Carrying veterans bags is not hazing. Buying the veterans a few lunches and dinners after you just signed your first contract is not hazing. I think of hazing as stuff that causes physical or psychological damage. When i swam in high school and college it was always the freshmen's job to put in and take out lane ropes. They had to put the equipment away after practice. How is that going to cause any damage?
This is just point #1 why Bryant was drafted in the 20's and not the top 10, as his talent would suggest. Something tells me this won't be the last we hear of this guy....
This is just point #1 why Bryant was drafted in the 20's and not the top 10, as his talent would suggest. Something tells me this won't be the last we hear of this guy....
"Hi, I am the new VP of marketing".
"Welcome, newby. Pop into my office and take out the thrash immediately".
Yah, that would go over well. Don't be disingenious, Tdog. He wasn't being asked to run routes. He was being asked to do something that is not in his job decription. The reason? To put him down.
From everything I have read, Bryant has been the consumate professional. 1st to practice, last to leave. Roy Williams could learn a lot from him.
Now, why don't you try again.
"Welcome, newby. Pop into my office and take out the thrash immediately".
Yah, that would go over well. Don't be disingenious, Tdog. He wasn't being asked to run routes. He was being asked to do something that is not in his job decription. The reason? To put him down.
From everything I have read, Bryant has been the consumate professional. 1st to practice, last to leave. Roy Williams could learn a lot from him.
Now, why don't you try again.
False equivalency. This guy wasn't brought in as part of the management team. He was added to the already-existing WR group. Traditions like carrying pads and bags and buying donuts and meals has been going on for decades in the NFL and every other sport on just about every level in one form or another. AR called it a rite of passage, and that's what it is. I agree with those who say it is not hazing. They're not singling the guy out because he is Dez Bryant - they're dealing with him the same way they would any rookie. It's a way to find out if new guys will buy into the team concept, and it seems that this guy definitely doesn't think that's important. That most definitely is as much a part of the job as running routes and catching balls, unless you don't think chemistry is relevant to collective success.
How in the world is a rookie the equivalent of the VP of Marketing? I'd associate a rookie more like a college graduate who just took his first job. And yes, if that was the case he might have to pick up a few lunches for the team, fax and scan a few documents and do some overall "b*tch" work.
thanks for saving me the typing JJSD
Pussies, stop obsessing over my analogy. I don't know who you work for, CU, but they better join the 21st Century. Where I work we treat people with dignity.
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:
Pussies, stop obsessing over my analogy. I don't know who you work for, CU, but they better join the 21st Century. Where I work we treat people with dignity.
Looks like not even Dez Bryant agrees with you, Goalline.
Bryant didn't know of rookie tradition, is cool with carrying Williams' pads
translation- didn't want step 2
This says it all
quote:"I didn't know nothing about no tradition," Bryant said. "The only thing about me ... when I try to do something right, ya'll try and turn it negative and I don't feel like that's right. I'm trying my best to do the right thing but it seems like I can't do the right thing because every little thing that I do ya'll watching it and try to make a big deal out of it."
quote:Originally posted by GBFanForLife:
This says it all
quote:"I didn't know nothing about no tradition," Bryant said. "The only thing about me ... when I try to do something right, ya'll try and turn it negative and I don't feel like that's right. I'm trying my best to do the right thing but it seems like I can't do the right thing because every little thing that I do ya'll watching it and try to make a big deal out of it."
