@BrainDed posted:Agree.. we do this every year, worry over who we are going to lose from claims and cut down.
It's rare that our guys get claimed as other teams have their young guys that they want to keep as well.
Probably comes from all the people still butthurt that the Saints claimed Taysom Hill.
@PackerHawk posted:I thought Jones had dropped his weight down into the 330's.
After he takes a dump.
Anyone that weighs themselves prior to taking a dump is dum. 
Now there's no need:
I think Caleb Jones is currently behind Zach Tom at RT - but he's making fantastic progress in the weight room and on the field
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers...-makes-giant-strides
"With the Packers’ chefs whipping up a bunch of food meant to power professional athletes, Jones said he was down to 338 pounds. There’s no doubt being lighter on his feet has helped him on the practice field and accelerated his climb up the depth chart of a team that typically covets athletic blockers.
“Obviously, he’s got rare length and I think he’s one of those guys for as big as he is – everyone wants to talk about his size – he’s a little bit better foot athlete than I think people give him credit for,” general manager Brian Gutekunst said on Wednesday.
“We liked his play temperament coming out of college. You’ve got to give him a lot of credit. He’s made the most of his opportunities. He’s gotten himself in really good shape, probably the best shape he’s been in since high school. He’s done a really nice job, so I’m excited for him, among others, to get out there Friday and really have an opportunity to see what they can do.”
More on OL Zach Tom here with some film snippets
https://packerswire.usatoday.c...art-against-saints/?
"Tom looks the part in pass protection with his hand placement, balance, and ability to mirror defenders. In the run game, he might be equally as impressive due to his explosive first step and power at the point of attack. Even though it is still very early, Tom has the making of a long-term starter in Green Bay."
@Thunderbird posted:Now there's no need:
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Packers waive Vernon Scott and trade Van Lanen to the Jaguars!
I'm a little surprised about Scott. I had read he was having a really good camp prior to the injury.
He was waived with the injury designation. Thus if he clears waivers he reverts to IR.
@13X posted:I'm a little surprised about Scott. I had read he was having a really good camp prior to the injury.
Perhaps they really liked what they saw from Abernathy.
Good story on everyone's camp favorite:
@Thunderbird posted:Now there's no need:
Looks just like the Bears logo!
I heard an interview with Caleb and they asked him which team was his 2nd choice after GB as a UDFA. He said the Packers were the only team interested. That's crazy that no team wanted to take a flier on that size.
Goodson's knock is he can't run through contact. Part of the same flaw that makes him not a good blitz picker. Not enough bubble in the badonk?
The second thing that jumped out at me about Caleb Jones after squinting my eyes to make sure I wansn't seeing things with his height, was the size of his feet! Looks like they're about 18" long!
Getting closer.. He is my guess.
2 QB: Rodgers, Love
3 RB: Jones, Dillon, Taylor, (Goodson PS)
7 WR: Lazard, Cobb, Watkins, Doubs, Watson, Rodgers, Winfree (Toure PS)
4 TE: Tonyan, Lewis, Deguara, Davis
9 OL: Bahk, Jenkins, Myers, Runyan, Capt Tom, Rhyan, Newman, Nijman, Jones
6 DL: Clark, Reed, Lowry, Slaton, Wyatt, Heflin (C Slayton PS)
5 OLB: Gary, Smith, Enagbare, Galeai, Hamilton
4 ILB: Campbell, Walker, Barnes, McDuffie
6 CB: Jaier, Stokes, Rasual, Nixon, Thomas, Jean-Charles
4 S: Amos, Savage, Davis, Abernathy
3 Specialists. Crosby, Odonnell, Coco
@BrainDed posted:Getting closer.. He is my guess.
2 QB: Rodgers, Love
3 RB: Jones, Dillon, Taylor, (Goodson PS)
7 WR: Lazard, Cobb, Watkins, Doubs, Watson, Rodgers, Winfree (Toure PS)
4 TE: Tonyan, Lewis, Deguara, Davis
9 OL: Bahk, Jenkins, Myers, Runyan, Capt Tom, Rhyan, Newman, Nijman, Jones
6 DL: Clark, Reed, Lowry, Slaton, Wyatt, Heflin (C Slayton PS)
5 OLB: Gary, Smith, Enagbare, Galeai, Hamilton
4 ILB: Campbell, Walker, Barnes, McDuffie
6 CB: Jaier, Stokes, Rasual, Nixon, Thomas, Jean-Charles
4 S: Amos, Savage, Davis, Abernathy
3 Specialists. Crosby, Odonnell, Coco
He who ?
@RoyalWulff posted:Packers waive Vernon Scott and trade Van Lanen to the Jaguars!
Haven't seen what the Jags gave up for Van Lanen but likely not more than conditional 7th. Bills just traded Cody Ford, a former 2nd rounder they moved up to select a couple of years ago, to the Cards for a 5th round pick.
They Pack got an unconditional 7th.
@BrainDed posted:Getting closer.. He is my guess.
2 QB: Rodgers, Love
3 RB: Jones, Dillon, Taylor, (Goodson PS)
7 WR: Lazard, Cobb, Watkins, Doubs, Watson, Rodgers, Winfree (Toure PS)
4 TE: Tonyan, Lewis, Deguara, Davis
9 OL: Bahk, Jenkins, Myers, Runyan, Capt Tom, Rhyan, Newman, Nijman, Jones
6 DL: Clark, Reed, Lowry, Slaton, Wyatt, Heflin (C Slayton PS)
5 OLB: Gary, Smith, Enagbare, Galeai, Hamilton
4 ILB: Campbell, Walker, Barnes, McDuffie
6 CB: Jaier, Stokes, Rasual, Nixon, Thomas, Jean-Charles
4 S: Amos, Savage, Davis, Abernathy
3 Specialists. Crosby, Odonnell, Coco
I'd say that's pretty close.
Bill Huber's latest projection
He's got the Packers only keeping two RBs and using the PS for gameday callups until Hill returns.
I'd be a little surprised if they drop Helfin...dude has done everything and more than they have asked him to do.
@Chongo posted:I'd be a little surprised if they drop Helfin...dude has done everything and more than they have asked him to do.
Heflin's better than Lancaster...and still not quite good enough to crack the 53.
That's not ideal for Heflin, but its a very good sign for the 2022 defense.
I think I'd lean toward Chris Slayton over Heflin for DL6 - ya really gotta have at least one mean&ugly dude to be a respectable defense.
Who you calling ugly?
Justis Mosqueda with 10 questions on the Packers 53
https://www.acmepackingcompany...-goodson-tyler-davis
"...Behind starters Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry and Jarran Reed, first-round rookie Devonte Wyatt and key backup T.J. Slaton, there are a lot of questions on the defensive line. Will the team just go into games with five linemen? Will they keep six? If they do keep six, who actually is the sixth player?
Jonathan Ford, a seventh-round rookie, has basically played the third nose tackle spot this summer behind Clark and Slaton. Jack Heflin, who made last year’s 53-man roster, has started as a 3-4 defensive end this preseason but has rarely seen playing time as a nickel defensive tackle, both roles that Chris Slayton — who was claimed off of waivers in May — has played significantly.
It’s a three-man race for maybe one open job, which should bring a lot out of the defensive line group against the Chiefs."
How much are the Packers spending for the 53 players that make up their talented roster ?
Slightly above league average on Offense
Significantly more than average on Defense
I think they're in the best quadrant given the other teams in it. Like if you had quadrant vs quadrant games, our quadrant would win. A lot.
Defense wins Championships!!!!
almost time for @sschumer - Packer Fan HoF'r to weigh in on the 53
While we're waiting - here's a couple of comments to consider as you fill out your brackets. New PS rules ( old COVID rules) make it really easy to move guys up and back from PS.
https://madison.com/sports/foo...4a-0c1dde98685a.html
"As a result, Gutekunst will have more flexibility with his roster, and he said very clearly that it will influence his decisions on players in the coming days."
“We’ve talked a lot about it as we’ve gone into this camp — just trying to keep the 53 best players, not just certain numbers at positions,” Gutekunst explained. “Because I think the ability to elevate practice squad players maybe allows you a little bit more flexibility than it has in the past where you’d say, ‘I have to have this number at every position.’ Maybe that’s not the case as much anymore. Maybe we’re going to be able to be a little bit more flexible with our numbers, whether they’re on the 53 or the 16.
@Satori posted:almost time for @sschumer - Packer Fan HoF'r to weigh in on the 53
Satori, wasn't sure I was going to do again, but now I feel inspired! Will try to get to this weekend and after tonight's game. Thanks for the nudge!
@Satori posted:Time will tell
Many RBs look good in preseason...in part because its preseason. He's a dime a dozen little guy who is a liability in pass pro. That doesn't show up in preseason because teams don't often send blitzers screaming into the A gap like they do in reg season.
Can't see investing a spot on the 53 for him. PS ? Yes, absolutely. See if he can be developed into Aaron Jones 2.0 with a year of seasoning/strength. But for 2022, the Packers already have a back-up "little" RB in Kylin Hill ( PUP)Patrick Taylor is a bigger, more experienced back and has actually shown his mettle in reg season games. I think he'll win the RB3 spot because he's the only one with any stoutness at 6'2 and 220.
Taylor has shown he can run, catch and handle pass pro. Here's his work vs Lions last year - starts at the 2:00 minute mark. Not explosive, but competent in all facets and that's often the decider for coaches when looking at depth dudes.
Taylor is better at pass protection than Goodson is. Other than that, they are pretty even. I think Taylor gets the #3 RB spot.
I definitely underestimated Tyler Goodson, he's shown well in preseason, more explosion than Taylor. But GB might not put either on the 53 and try to sneak them both thru to PS.
Unfortunately, I can see the knobshiner vikes putting in a claim on Patrick Taylor, just to be dickheads before game 1.
Considering they plan to use two back sets to get the best skilled position players on the field, I'd be really surprised if they tried to sneak both on to the PS.
I think the PS gamesmanship will happen with positions with larger volume of players. WR, DB, and so on. Maybe TE.
@Satori posted:How much are the Packers spending for the 53 players that make up their talented roster ?
Slightly above league average on Offense
Significantly more than average on DefenseI think they're in the best quadrant given the other teams in it. Like if you had quadrant vs quadrant games, our quadrant would win. A lot.
Fukkin Bears playing moneyball here. Without the results.
@BrainDed posted:Considering they plan to use two back sets to get the best skilled position players on the field, I'd be really surprised if they tried to sneak both on to the PS.
Its risky bizness for sure.
I'd love to listen in to the debates as they decide on the final 3 - 5 guys across multiple positions. But no way they want any of that shit getting out
It may come down to the PS bet - and which one is more likely to get thru as opposed to which player is actually considered "better"
One more thought: If another team puts in an offer on a recently- released Patrick Taylor, he can go to the Packers and say:
"Toss me some more coin and I stay here on GB PS"
He knows he's going to be elevated and get some play time, he doesn't have the same guarantee elsewhere. Also knows the offense, talented team etc. But if somebody offers the guy a starting spot on their 53, then good for him, grab it and run.
Lots of chatter about a guy or two the Packers would want to sneak onto the PS that could be snagged by another team. But there’s 31 other teams trying to do the same thing that the Packers will be looking at.
If the Pack cuts Toure, he will become a Bear.
He has to stay on the 53. Winfree can go to the PS
from elsewhere on the internet
"Packers have completed their preseason earlier than other teams and they'll have practices on Sunday and Monday prior to Tuesdays' cutdown deadline. However, GB won't want to risk injury for guys who are getting cut...so we may see some guys not practicing and / or released this weekend. "
Ryan Wood's roster projection (paywall)
Of note: only two RBs, Caleb Jones makes the cut and he has the team keeping Toure over Winfree.
I can see Jones and Toure making the cut. Yet I really doubt that they only keep two RB’s.
Edit: Unless they count on AmRodgers becoming a RB.
@BrainDed posted:Getting closer.. He is my guess.
2 QB: Rodgers, Love
3 RB: Jones, Dillon, Taylor, (Goodson PS)
7 WR: Lazard, Cobb, Watkins, Doubs, Watson, Rodgers, Winfree (Toure PS)
4 TE: Tonyan, Lewis, Deguara, Davis
9 OL: Bahk, Jenkins, Myers, Runyan, Capt Tom, Rhyan, Newman, Nijman, Jones
6 DL: Clark, Reed, Lowry, Slaton, Wyatt, Heflin (C Slayton PS)
5 OLB: Gary, Smith, Enagbare, Galeai, Hamilton
4 ILB: Campbell, Walker, Barnes, McDuffie
6 CB: Jaier, Stokes, Rasual, Nixon, Thomas, Jean-Charles
4 S: Amos, Savage, Davis, Abernathy
3 Specialists. Crosby, Odonnell, Coco
That looks pretty spot on. Good job. I agree with Satori on Heflin, that Slayton looks like the better prospect right now. Heflin's splash play last night came when he was unblocked. Other than that, he hasn't shown the same strength or toughness Chris Slayton has.
I wonder if, because Crosby may not be 100% by game one - or at all this year, we keep Achmed on the PS.
