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…because it’s damn good football

…because we can see which of these teams the Pack will play on the Super Bowl.

…because based on geography, Fedya SHOULD be a Bills fan, except for that pesky outstanding warrant in Buffalo.

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That didn't look like a concussion initially. He got a very hard hit in his upper chest and the personnel on the field kept pointing to their chest area when motioning to other medical staff. He was conscious and moving arms at legs at first, then quickly deteriorated to CPR.

This is horrific and way beyond the game. Jerseys don't matter, rivalries don't matter. He needs to be okay.

@Iowacheese posted:

I think he was dead as he was falling to the ground.

Canx the game

His legs and arms were initially moving when on the ground, they didn't start CPR until several minutes later. They were administering oxygen as he was loaded into the ambulance.

I don’t blame Buffalo one bit if they just decide to call it a night and forget trying to play.  This is emotional to watch even as a fan.  I can’t even imagine what it must be like for the players/coaches/families.

@DocBenni posted:

Commotio Cordis is my guess.  It's a direct hit to the chest at exactly the wrong time and causes a fatal arrhythmia.  Very rare and really bad.

Sanjay Gupta discussing this scenario on CNN.

@Iowacheese posted:

I think he was dead as he was falling to the ground.

Canx the game

I know there are some posters here that are / have been first responders.  And that you're one of them.

Jesus fuck, I hope you're wrong.

Last edited by Brak

Given we're on Monday before Week 18, my guess is the NFL temporarily suspends the game for up to two hours. If there is any word from the hospital that Hamlin is in stable condition, they will play. If it's the same or worsening condition from when he left the field, they'll cancel the game (highly likely--and they should).

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@Brak posted:

I know there are some posters here that are / have been first responders.  And that you're one of them.

Jesus fuck, I hope you're wrong.

Sad deal. CPR that long.  Young man needs a miracle

It's not surprising that he wasn't breathing given the situation.  The question will be how long it actually took to get his pulse back.  I'm not sure how long they were actually doing CPR.  If CPR was started and AED used quickly, that's the best scenario.  Likely during CPR they were attempting to intubate him as he wouldn't be breathing.  If in fact this was from Commotio Cordis (explained above) and not from an underlying heart condition and everything goes well, he could be just fine.

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