This Defense is for real folks.
With backups we shut down a good receiver group.
O still has hiccups and losing Eddie was not a good thing. Starks needed some reps and he almost gave a chance to lose the game.
Teachable moments.
No matter what, GREAT WIN!!
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Win, OL, D
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Drops, special teams
K-worst memorial game thread week 5 winner
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++ The X4 Elite proved their geenyus intelect once again as Odell caught over 300 yards tonight as the Giants simply whooped the Pack...
Oh.
Holy christ what happened.
Did I have a moment?!?!?!
Rusty.
That's just not fair to mess with my mind like that....
In all seriousness, I do not miss Josh Sitton one bit. This O-line is a beast so far.
Rodgers wasn't great tonight, but it wasn't enough to cost the team a win. If this is the one game a year where he looks average, I'm ok with it being this one.
3-1 Mo'Fos.
Cavetoad posted:Holy christ what happened.
Did I have a moment?!?!?!
Appears to be two moments.
Absolutely. Loved Josh as a fan, but not missed as a player for the club.
+ Defense
+ COBB!
+Rook DBs
+Eddie before he got hurt.
-Jordy drops
-12 being a bit off yet.
-Special Teams
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The game plan early.
Perry, Mathews, Fackrell et all kept the pressure on Ellie all night, and the run D was stout.
The offensive line was impregnable.
Randall Cobb came up huge tonight. Eddie was really gashing them before he got hurt.
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Drops...drops...more drops
James Starks with two brain farts.
The special teams. We need a new punter. Badly. At this point, I'd take 45 year old Craig Hentrich over what we've got.
Pluses
O-Line...stellar; Josh Sitton who? Coaches and TT made the right call there
Cobb and Adams
Lacy
Nelson's crossing pattern catch in the 4th quarter: This was a staple play in past years...not anymore, why?
Negatives
Sloppy unimpressive win; A better team may have beaten the Packers
WRs cannot get open. With all the time Rodgers had, someone should have gotten wide open.
Rodgers missed some again.
Refs: Bad hold call on Bocktee; The second INT touched the ground
MM should have challenged the second INT
Nelson muffed the pass for the first INT; Couple drops too
Starks??? Cant figure him out. Seems erratic and chaotic when he runs.
Starks fumble
Special Team
Punting was weak: Twice the returner had to move 10 yards to try and catch the ball.
Stupid penalty by Janus.
Poz:
Eddie Lacy. He rushed at 7.5 yards a clip. His power and speed is looking much like 2013/14
Cobb: Over a 100 yards receiving and really battled. He needed a game like tonight.
OL: Josh who? Again, the Packers OL playing lights out. Rodgers with plenty of time and holes are there for the run game
Neg:
Rodgers, Jordy and the Bye: This is a rare moment where IMO the bye week was harmful to Nelson and Rodgers. They had a good rhythm going in week 3 and a week off didn't help. Jordy looked rusty all over again.
MM and the run: Once again, great opening drive with a great mix of run and pass and MM reverts back to Rodgers scrambling and sandlot football. There is just no need for it. You are seeing what works. Stick with it. There is no shame in long, grinding drives that keeps your rookie CB's off the field.
Punter: Really, I can't see where Ginger is worse. TT muffed this move. There will be a game where special teams and punting cost GB a game.
GBP1 posted:
Negatives
MM should have challenged the second INT
All turnovers are reviewed so technically it was challenged
YooperPackfan posted:GBP1 posted:
Negatives
MM should have challenged the second INT
All turnovers are reviewed so technically it was challenged
If it was reviewed, it was sure quick. The ball noticeably moved when it hit the ground.
Per Mike McCarthy post game PC: Randall Cobb "is fine" #Packers
Another minus
In past years, the Packers have come out after the BYE and dominated. Last year after the BYE, the Broncos crushed the Packers (who never rebounded) and then tonight the Packers looked sloppy on offense (except for the OL). And the Special Teams was shoddy too.
So what's your point?
MM is 9-2 coming out of bye weeks. Finesse/appearance aside, wins are wins and that's an impressive record. We just played the 4th game. GB is 3-1. It's a long, long season to go.
Agree with most of the above:
+ Ripkowski going beast-mode
- Special teams coverage resulting in good field position for NYG
good call on STs MR21...
For now the queens STs are on fire. We need to clean that up.
They look good, but I still think it's like their roof, glass. But. Their ST's are scary right now. We can win 1 and 2, but 3 is worth concern.
Rodgers was 9 of 14 with a TD until the tipped ball INT. On the return he was hit (NYG called for unnecessary roughness). After that he was 14 of 31 and missed some throws bad. We'll never hear if he was rattled or not, but I wouldn't discount the possibility.
I think the front 7 is incredible. Dominant. Deep.
The secondary is still a mess. They let NYG back in the game. They're fortunate that Manning was chucking the ball over guys' heads. And they still aren't making the plays that are there- game changing plays.
We saw the same things we saw all season. It's a miracle they're 3-1, it really is. The front 7 is the principal reason that's the case (and the flashes of the offense as well). Until this secondary starts playing ball, they're derailing their championship opportunities.
Cavetoad posted:This Defense is for real folks.
With backups we shut down a good receiver group.
O still has hiccups and losing Eddie was not a good thing. Starks needed some reps and he almost gave a chance to lose the game.
Teachable moments.
No matter what, GREAT WIN!!
I forked your reply from the Game thread into starting this thread for the +/-
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Win, OL, Run defense, Lacy
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Drops, Tipped balls for INT, Poor throws by Aaron
PUNTING! EFF YOU! Get the hell outta Green Bay!
injuries to Cobb, Banjo, Lacy
Lost some cash on the over
I was rooting for the Giants to tie it up so I could get the over in OT (O/U = 48) 
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Lacy
Cobb
Run defense. Pass defense got a huge assist with a terrible game from Manning.
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ST (other than Crosby).TT royally screwed up the punter move and Zook has plenty to clean up from that game.
AR was off again and a generally lackluster offensive performance in the second half.
Drops by receivers
lets calm down on the Josh who stuff. When pressure did come, it came from Taylor's man. He played well, but he wasn't flawless. More importantly, we are one snap away from the turnstile known as Don Barclay.
negs- in the second quarter, when Jordy lined up on the left he was wide open every time. Could have had some monster gains. Rodgers barely looked his way. The pass he dropped ( or was knocked out of his hands) could have scored if Aaron would have thrown the ball two seconds earlier.
Pros:
+ Pass protection. Haven't seen protection like that in a long time.
+ ILB's. The only flaw was the TE down the seam. Once we bit on PA and paid and once we got lucky. I think I might be in love with Thomas.
+ OLB's except Pepperes. Perry might be the best player on this defense right now. Clay keeps doing his thing and Fackrell showing he can rush the passer in this league.
+ DL.. You cannot run between the tackles against Daniels, Clark and Guion.
+ The wizard put together a winning game plan. He got creative with his S's at the right times and used them to take away the deep threat at the right times.
+ Phat boy was in the zone tonight.. Unfortunately we didn't ride him and then the ankle. Hopefully it's not serious because Starks looks lost out there.
+ I can't believe it, but Te' Adams was huge tonight. He broke up two INT's, made an outstanding play on the TD and had a couple other big catches. I do have concerns about getting separation though, see negs.
Negs:
- All day to throw but only Cobb could separate tonight. That guy playing Jordy was like white on rice and that left the other WR's with scrap heap guys covering them.. Cobb took advantage, but Adams didn't do enough considering circumstances. I know, I'm a hypocrite for having her m in both sections.
- I think we missed Cook this game. We need another athlete that can get open within the offense and MM refuses to turn to Abby over Adams.
- Rodgers reverts back to happy feet and even worse, is turning the ball over at an alarming rate. 2 picks tonight, one wasn't on him but Adams saves him from 2 more.
- Special teams performance and penalties were brutal. Cost us a lot of field position.
- Starks looks bad. I'm not calling for his head, but if Eddie is out a while we better hope we can get his **** together.
- Jordy had a rough 3 quarters after the incredible diving TD.
PackOly makes a good point. It seems the timing is still a bit off. Or AR is mentally second guessing when to throw at what point of the break. All we can hope for is that the AR gets over the yips and relies on his instincts without thinking too much over a situation (but still thinking more than BrInt would think...I think!). 
GBP1 posted:Another minus
In past years, the Packers have come out after the BYE and dominated. Last year after the BYE, the Broncos crushed the Packers (who never rebounded) and then tonight the Packers looked sloppy on offense (except for the OL). And the Special Teams was shoddy too.
To be fair, the team that spanked us coming out of the bye went on to dominate the rest of the league, and won the Super Bowl.
Nothing physically looks wrong with Aaron. I just don't think that even a few weeks of game play + practice is enough to get completely in sync. Receivers and TEs had, what, 4 or 5 drops tonight? I just have too much confidence in Aaron to think this is going to continue much longer. The guy is as competitive as anybody in the league, and I guarantee Aaron's the least happy person in 'sconsin right now with her performance.
The guy is as competitive as anybody in the league, and I guarantee Aaron's the least happy person in 'sconsin right now with her performance.
Who's she, Kemosabe? 
Rusty posted:In all seriousness, I do not miss Josh Sitton one bit. This O-line is a beast so far.
Rodgers wasn't great tonight, but it wasn't enough to cost the team a win. If this is the one game a year where he looks average, I'm ok with it being this one.
3-1 Mo'Fos.
I hate to say this, my boy friend looked terrible for the most part, and it isn't just one game.....he's been off for how long again??
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Adams cost us a TD by not getting set on the toss that Cobb got. INT followed. Ridiculous. He still makes too many mistakes not to give Abby some snaps.
The defense really is something to hang your hat on and Rollins and Gunter need to be a steady part of the rotation when Randall and Shields come back. All those young guys need the live fire testing.
Rodgers continues to be inconsistent. This team just cannot get all cylinders firing at the same time. That is the story of this team over the past few years.
They have a solid defense and solid running game. At this point these are the aspects of the team they need to ride. Rodgers and the receiving corp will have to decide when preseason is over and ****ing pull their heads out.
Which of your 68884597274 boyfriends looked terrible?
Rodgers was really off on a lot of throws after getting hit. Throwing behind receivers, past them. He's been looking human, we've been spoiled.
Is anyone else wondering why they can get away from a successful game plan after one quarter/half on a consistent basis? This is the heart of the problem and "analysis" needs to stop and leading needs to begin again.
The game plan seems to vary from possesion to possesion.
It did appear that on the first 2 drives we were using different formations, personnel groupings, etc. often. Not so much after that?
