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Come on Ted, get it done
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Yes, we know they weren't showcasing him. Those sneaky sneaky Bills
So TT is to believe a rumor on a fantasy football site that comes from possibly a rumor started by a Milwaukee radio station. 
Oh my Jerry, no wonder some people are 0-3 in their fantasy league.
Oh my Jerry, no wonder some people are 0-3 in their fantasy league.
if he's available and can be had for a reasonable price, go for it.
quote:Originally posted by ammo:
So TT is to believe a rumor on a fantasy football site that comes from possibly a rumor started by a Milwaukee radio station.
quote:wow. This is great news!
quote:Originally posted by ammo:
So TT is to believe a rumor on a fantasy football site that comes from possibly a rumor started by a Milwaukee radio station.
No offense Ammo,but did you read the 540 link? It's coming from Jason Wilde and he's pretty clear cut on what he said;
quote:Time for Lynch?: Maybe now the Packers will make some progress in their oft-rumored efforts to swing a deal for disgruntled Buffalo Bills running back Marshawn Lynch.
An NFL source said Monday night that the Bills, who had rebuffed not only the Packers’ advances but any team’s inquiries about the availability of the 2007 first-round draft pick, have put out word that they will at least start listening to offers for Lynch. Whether the Packers will – or will try to – trade for Lynch before the Oct. 19 trade deadline remains to be seen.
Multiple reports in recent weeks have said that the Packers inquired about Lynch’s availability, and the source confirmed Monday night that the team had indeed contacted the Bills about him, even before Lynch ran 17 times for 64 yards against the Packers last week. Recently added Dimitri Nance was among the inactives Monday night.
Wilde hasn't exactly made a habit of starting up rumors out of thin air either and if he's says something,it's usually true.
My issue with dealing with the Bills is that the franchise is completely clueless about everything. Three weeks ago, Trent Edwards won the open QB competition on a team with little WR and OL talent. He then struggles against 2 solid defenses and all of a sudden, he's no longer a top 3 QB on that team? It makes no sense. If Fitzpatrick gets hurt, you start Brohm. Is that really the depth you want? Why couldn't Edwards be the #2?
And before this happened, they drafted Spiller when the most stacked position of their team was RB and KR, especially when you have obvious holes at WR, OL, LB and DL.
And they cut their best pass rusher before the season, only to have him immediately sign with another team.
This team seems completely off base when it comes to reality. I have a feeling getting a deal done will be extremely difficult with this franchise. On the flip side, maybe their cluelessness will benefit the Pack.
And before this happened, they drafted Spiller when the most stacked position of their team was RB and KR, especially when you have obvious holes at WR, OL, LB and DL.
And they cut their best pass rusher before the season, only to have him immediately sign with another team.
This team seems completely off base when it comes to reality. I have a feeling getting a deal done will be extremely difficult with this franchise. On the flip side, maybe their cluelessness will benefit the Pack.
I also heard John Clayton this morning say that an unnamed team actually offered the Bills a late round pick for Edwards, which they rejected. They may give Al Davis a run for his money.
Will listen to offers means "we want a 1st round pick".
quote:Originally posted by GBFanForLife:quote:Originally posted by crowhead:
I just was reading that Lynch loves Applebees, sounds like he would fit in nicely in Green Bay.
http://www.profootballweekly.c...winds-blowing-barely
quote:Bills RB Marshawn Lynch
Disgruntled and hoping to be dealt in the offseason, Lynch, who has displayed first-round-caliber flashes the past few weeks against the Packers and Patriots, remains stuck in Buffalo in a crowded backfield with Fred Jackson and slow-starting rookie C.J. Spiller.
Needing linebackers after injuries to Kawika Mitchell and Paul Posluszny, the Bills could consider adding to that unit. The bottom line for the Bills, though, reportedly would be nothing less than a first-round pick for Lynch's services.
Meanwhile, we hear Lynch would rather be anywhere else these days than Buffalo.
"He wants out," one insider said. "He could not have entered a more different lifestyle than he did heading out east. To go from the streets of Oakland to Buffalo is a big culture shock, and he never fit in. If he had any choice, he would have gone a long time ago."
At this point, Giving up a 2nd is probably reasonable. Our pick will likely be between 56-64. Lynch is a 24 y/o running back who is just 2 years older than most college seniors - plus we can use him this season and we need a quality back in the worst way. His production here will really outweight the cost of losing a 2nd.
Get r done TT
Get r done TT
Do you really think the culture of Green Bay and Buffalo are different?
quote:Originally posted by GBFanForLife:
"He wants out," one insider said. "He could not have entered a more different lifestyle than he did heading out east. To go from the streets of Oakland to Buffalo is a big culture shock, and he never fit in. If he had any choice, he would have gone a long time ago."
He would have some veteran leadership in Green Bay which is non-existent in Buffalo.
Specifically, a guy who came from Oakland (Woodson) then to Green Bay only to find out how cool it is.
Rodgers, who he played with in college.
He could be a turd but I believe he's worth a 3rd rounder, not much more.
Over-paying for a turd is a quick way to zap all the hard work you put in to get where you're currently at.
I do think he would thrive in this offense
It be great if he could adapt but from his past it doesn't seem likely. Everyone acts like this will be the magic fix. Can he learn the offense enough to be productive?
Buffalo isn't exactly a cultural melting pot - but let's get real. GB has a good team and the Bills totally suck. Lynch would do just fine in Green Bay and maybe a change of scenery is needed anyway. Buffalo is a disaster right now.
quote:He could be a turd but I believe he's worth a 3rd rounder, not much more.
What about a conditional 2nd? based on something like 90 yds from scrimmage a game, or 11 wins by the team, I don't know I am sure they could figure out something. But, if he played the final 12-13 games and got 1000+ yards from scrimmage it's worth a very late 2nd rounder.
I'm certainly not talking about the football team and neither is the "insider". He may not be able to handle not having the culture outside the game.
The GBP Rules nailed it on the head when the word "conditional" was brought up.
Offer the Bills a fifth round pick. If Lynch gains 650 rushing yards as a Packer it elevates to a fourth round pick. If Lynch gains 850 rushing yards as a Packer it elevates to a third round pick. If Lynch gains 1050 rushing yards as a Packer it elevates to a second round pick.
Seems like a fair deal for both sides. If Lynch hits the 1050 rushing yard it probably means the Packers are winning lots of games and the second rounder wouldn't even be in the top 50 picks. It was pretty obvious when they picked Spiller that they were going to eventually dump Lynch as Jackson is more than good enough to compliment Spiller. If Lynch stays healthy the Bills would probably receive no worse than a fourth for him as chances are he would hit the 650 yard barrier. I very much doubt the Bills will get an offer much better than a 4th rounder considering the turd factor attached to Lynch + the fact that most teams are not really all that desperate for running backs at this point of the season.
Offer the Bills a fifth round pick. If Lynch gains 650 rushing yards as a Packer it elevates to a fourth round pick. If Lynch gains 850 rushing yards as a Packer it elevates to a third round pick. If Lynch gains 1050 rushing yards as a Packer it elevates to a second round pick.
Seems like a fair deal for both sides. If Lynch hits the 1050 rushing yard it probably means the Packers are winning lots of games and the second rounder wouldn't even be in the top 50 picks. It was pretty obvious when they picked Spiller that they were going to eventually dump Lynch as Jackson is more than good enough to compliment Spiller. If Lynch stays healthy the Bills would probably receive no worse than a fourth for him as chances are he would hit the 650 yard barrier. I very much doubt the Bills will get an offer much better than a 4th rounder considering the turd factor attached to Lynch + the fact that most teams are not really all that desperate for running backs at this point of the season.
quote:Originally posted by GBFanForLife:quote:Originally posted by GBFanForLife:
http://www.profootballweekly.c...winds-blowing-barely
[QUOTE] Bills RB Marshawn Lynch
The bottom line for the Bills, though, reportedly would be nothing less than a first-round pick for Lynch's services.
If that was really the case I doubt they'd have put him on the market because they damn well know the market would never come close to surrendering that.
quote:Originally posted by GBFanForLife:
"He wants out," one insider said. "He could not have entered a more different lifestyle than he did heading out east. To go from the streets of Oakland to Buffalo is a big culture shock, and he never fit in. If he had any choice, he would have gone a long time ago."
The knuckle heads won't get it. Increase the size of the text. This is not an intelligent, mature person like Charles Woodson. He is going to ask out of Green bay sooner than later.
Please... we've had plenty of guys that fit this sentiment exactly in Green Bay and have not had problems.
Here's the thing you dont understand Goalline. Winning cures all for some players - being stuck in Buffalo, you probably think of anything to get out of there.. He can go thug it up in Oakland if he needs to in the offseason (hopefully he has moved past this). However, I think he will embrace GB along with his former teammate. Green Bay has a lot of tradition to offer and several players from the inner city have come here and flourished.
Here's the thing you dont understand Goalline. Winning cures all for some players - being stuck in Buffalo, you probably think of anything to get out of there.. He can go thug it up in Oakland if he needs to in the offseason (hopefully he has moved past this). However, I think he will embrace GB along with his former teammate. Green Bay has a lot of tradition to offer and several players from the inner city have come here and flourished.
quote:Originally posted by PackerJoe:
The GBP Rules nailed it on the head when the word "conditional" was brought up.
Offer the Bills a fifth round pick. If Lynch gains 650 rushing yards as a Packer it elevates to a fourth round pick. If Lynch gains 850 rushing yards as a Packer it elevates to a third round pick. If Lynch gains 1050 rushing yards as a Packer it elevates to a second round pick.
Seems like a fair deal for both sides. If Lynch hits the 1050 rushing yard it probably means the Packers are winning lots of games and the second rounder wouldn't even be in the top 50 picks. It was pretty obvious when they picked Spiller that they were going to eventually dump Lynch as Jackson is more than good enough to compliment Spiller. If Lynch stays healthy the Bills would probably receive no worse than a fourth for him as chances are he would hit the 650 yard barrier. I very much doubt the Bills will get an offer much better than a 4th rounder considering the turd factor attached to Lynch + the fact that most teams are not really all that desperate for running backs at this point of the season.
Seems very logical, but you might have to up the ante just a little bit on the parameters. But this is a good idea;
quote:Originally posted by Diggr14:
Please... we've had plenty of guys that fit this sentiment exactly in Green Bay and have not had problems.
He can go thug it up in Oakland if he needs to in the offseason (hopefully he has moved past this).
So he can be just like Jolly in Houston. Great!!
quote:Originally posted by GBFanForLife:
Do you really think the culture of Green Bay and Buffalo are different?
Yes. Since Marshawn entered the league and several years before it Green Bay has been winning and Buffalo has been losing. That has a ton to do with it from a pyschology standpoint I'd think.
quote:Originally posted by Diggr14:
Please... we've had plenty of guys that fit this sentiment exactly in Green Bay and have not had problems.
Here's the thing you dont understand Goalline. Winning cures all for some players - being stuck in Buffalo, you probably think of anything to get out of there.. He can go thug it up in Oakland if he needs to in the offseason (hopefully he has moved past this). However, I think he will embrace GB along with his former teammate. Green Bay has a lot of tradition to offer and several players from the inner city have come here and flourished.
Like Mike McKenzie, and McKenzie didn't have a rap sheet. He happily joined the losing Saints to get out of Green Bay.
quote:Originally posted by GBFanForLife:quote:Originally posted by Diggr14:
Please... we've had plenty of guys that fit this sentiment exactly in Green Bay and have not had problems.
He can go thug it up in Oakland if he needs to in the offseason (hopefully he has moved past this).
So he can be just like Jolly in Houston. Great!!
You run that risk with alot of players. However, I would hope the Packers are proactive about approaching Marshawn about cleaning up his image for the sake of his own pocketbook.
And how many of those guys are acquired for a 2nd rounder, Diggy? Name them?
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:
And how many of those guys are acquired for a 2nd rounder, Diggy? Name them?
You really overvalue a late 2nd round pick. How many of the 2nd round picks in 2011 can play right now and cure our HB problem? Name them?
Post crap like that again, and you're gone.
Your pal,
Boris
We need a running back and if a late 2nd will get it done for a guy like Lynch or Deangelo Williams I say do it. There is nothing wrong with realizing the value of these guys or willing to pay a premium to bolster your Super Bowl chances. Then again, you'd rather draft the next Pat Lee than have a stud halfback. I get it.
Didn't the Packers trade a second round pick for Keith Jackson? If I remember correctly Jackson was so happy about Green Bay that he choose to holdout before reporting to Green Bay. I also remember when all was said and done that it was a deal that worked out for the Packers.
Diggy, nice logic. How many 1st round picks can help us now? Trade them all for Lynch. Clearly, I am in the presence of a genius.
quote:Originally posted by PackerJoe:
Didn't the Packers trade a second round pick for Keith Jackson? If I remember correctly Jackson was so happy about Green Bay that he choose to holdout before reporting to Green Bay. I also remember when all was said and done that it was a deal that worked out for the Packers.
Another very mature person. Lynch? Not so much. Character matters.
http://articles.latimes.com/19...9525_1_keith-jackson
Not an in season trade and even lost him for part of the season due to a holdout.
quote:Tight end Keith Jackson ended his three-month contract holdout and reported to the Green Bay Packers, who obtained him in a trade last March with the Miami Dolphins.
Not an in season trade and even lost him for part of the season due to a holdout.
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:
Another very mature person. Lynch? Not so much. Character matters.
Jackson definitely didn't have the gangsta in him, but I don't know if I would classify Jackson as high character/mature/ultimate professional type. The guy was notoriously lazy and was so stuck on himself it was ridiculous.
Can he block, the biggest problem is not the RB carrying the ball. Last night there were two or three nice running plays, now how do we turn those into 10 or 12 nice rushes BLOCK better. On those nice runs there was a man on man and our guy won, do that more often and wow the packers would be respectable.
I swear unless the RB scores everytime some here are not happy, guess what payton/sanders/jackson/brown didn't score everytime.
I swear unless the RB scores everytime some here are not happy, guess what payton/sanders/jackson/brown didn't score everytime.
quote:Originally posted by ammo:
So TT is to believe a rumor on a fantasy football site that comes from possibly a rumor started by a Milwaukee radio station.
Why are we on this forum? To discuss football right? including rumors. If bs was banned on the internet there would be no internet. Relax dude.
quote:Originally posted by OSUpackerbacker:
Can he block, the biggest problem is not the RB carrying the ball. Last night there were two or three nice running plays, now how do we turn those into 10 or 12 nice rushes BLOCK better.
Agree.
There were about 3-4 running plays where Jim Brown (The runner, not the singer) would have been tackled for no gain.